Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
Hi, Thank you to you for your answers. As I have to write text with math formulas, I'll probably buy them. Fabrice 2014-01-30 Hans Hagen > On 1/29/2014 10:23 PM, Fabrice wrote: > >> If you have the type1 fonts >>> >> How do we know? >> Sorry, but I'm not at all an expert font ! >> > > just buy the open type versions from tug ... less hassle and more complete > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
On 1/29/2014 10:23 PM, Fabrice wrote: If you have the type1 fonts How do we know? Sorry, but I'm not at all an expert font ! just buy the open type versions from tug ... less hassle and more complete Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
If you have the type1 fonts How do we know? Sorry, but I'm not at all an expert font ! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
Am 29.01.2014 um 22:28 schrieb Fabrice Couvreur : >> If you have the type1 fonts > How do we know ? > Sorry, but I'm not at all an expert font ! The opentype version of the fonts have otf as files extension while the type 1 version consists of files with afm and pub as file extension. Wolfgang___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
Am 29.01.2014 um 21:33 schrieb Aditya Mahajan : > On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: > >> Hi, >> I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial >> fonts that >> I must buy. What should buy and where ? >> In the meantime, I tried to test the following file : >> > >> \loadtypescriptfile[lucida-typeone] >> \setupbodyfont[lucida,12pt] > > ... >> )> Could not understand Type1 font: >> /home/fab/texmf/fonts/type1/bh/lucida/fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbr.afm > > If you don't have the fonts, but the opentype version of the font rather than > the type1 version. If you have the type1 fonts, it should be possible to use > them with ConTeXt. When you have the type 1 version of the font and don’t need math the specserif and specsans typescripts can be used (\definefontfamily doesn’t work because context uses only the basic font loader for type 1 fonts): \definetypeface [mainface] [rm] [specserif] [Lucida Bright] [default] \definetypeface [mainface] [ss] [specsans] [Lucida Sans] [default] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \input knuth \ss \input knuth \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
If you have the type1 fonts How do we know ? Sorry, but I'm not at all an expert font ! 2014-01-29 Aditya Mahajan > On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: > > Hi, >> I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial >> fonts that >> I must buy. What should buy and where ? >> In the meantime, I tried to test the following file : >> >> > >> \loadtypescriptfile[lucida-typeone] >> \setupbodyfont[lucida,12pt] >> > > ... > > )> Could not understand Type1 font: >> /home/fab/texmf/fonts/type1/bh/lucida/fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbr.afm >> > > If you don't have the fonts, but the opentype version of the font rather > than the type1 version. If you have the type1 fonts, it should be possible > to use them with ConTeXt. > > Aditya > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: Hi, I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial fonts that I must buy. What should buy and where ? In the meantime, I tried to test the following file : \loadtypescriptfile[lucida-typeone] \setupbodyfont[lucida,12pt] ... ) If you don't have the fonts, but the opentype version of the font rather than the type1 version. If you have the type1 fonts, it should be possible to use them with ConTeXt. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
On 29 jan. 2014, at 20:04, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: > Hi, > I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial fonts > that I must buy. What should buy and where ? Available from lucida-ad...@tug.org. Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
On 1/29/2014 8:04 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: Hi, I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial fonts that I must buy. What should buy and where? https://www.tug.org/store/lucida/opentype.html - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Lucida fonts with ConTeXt
Hi, I want to use the Lucida fonts. I understand that these are commercial fonts that I must buy. What should buy and where ? In the meantime, I tried to test the following file : \setuppapersize[A4] \setuplayout [backspace=15mm, width=middle, topspace=15mm, height=middle, header=0pt, footer=0pt] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \mainlanguage[fr] \loadtypescriptfile[lucida-typeone] \setupbodyfont[lucida,12pt] \setupTABLE[each][each][width=1cm,height=1cm,align={middle,lohi}] \starttext \startluacode context.bTABLE() context.bTR() context.bTD() context.math("x") context.eTD() context.bTD() context.math("f(x)") context.eTD() for i=-1,5 do context.bTR() context.bTD() context(i) context.eTD() context.bTD() context(-i^2+5*i-8) context.eTD() context.eTR() end context.eTR() context.eTABLE() \stopluacode \stoptext fab@debian:~$ source context/tex/setuptex Setting "/home/fab/context/tex" as ConTeXt root. fab@debian:~$ context demo10.tex mtx-context | run 1: luatex --fmt="/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en" --jobname="demo10" --lua="/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui" --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./demo10.tex" --c:input="./demo10.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=8 "cont-yes.mkiv" This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.78.2 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4746) \write18 enabled. (/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv job > passes > version mismatch: 1.22 <> 1.24 ConTeXt ver: 2014.01.26 16:07 MKIV beta fmt: 2014.1.27 int: english/english system > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded (/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv) system > files > jobname 'demo10', input './demo10', result 'demo10' fonts > latin modern fonts are not preloaded languages > language 'en' is active (/home/fab/demo10.tex (/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-imp-lucida-typeone.mkiv){/home/fab/texmf/fonts/type1/bh/lucida/fonts/map/dvips/lucida.map} fonts > defining > font with asked name 'LucidaBright' is not found using lookup 'name' fonts > defining > unknown font 'LucidaBright', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'LucidaBright' as 'lucida-12pt-rm-tf-0--0' {/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map} backend > xmp > using file '/home/fab/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lpdf-pdx.xml' pages > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1 ) )___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
I guess I will take responsibility for my own actions then. ;) Actually, as long as the Type 1 fonts continue to work, I presume I have no need for anything more. Perhaps I'm just somewhat ignorant about fonts and have no idea what "more complete" (as Hans said) means when comparing the OpenType version to the Type 1 version. If I was given a list of things that are included in the OpenType font that I do not currently have access to in the Type 1 version, then I would at least know what I was "missing". Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Troy Henderson wrote: >> yes, but the fonts are relatively cheap (esp for members) and you get a >> lot > > "relatively" is the keyword here as they are the same price that I paid for > the Type 1 fonts 3 years ago. So, according to the store website, I > essentially have to buy them again. Actually, you should apply for a special discount :P As soon as you have bought the fonts and started complaining about semi-broken functionality of Lucida while I was sitting behind Hans in Brejlov two years ago, this triggered the project of creating OpenType Lucida (and probably forced us to fix major problems in Type1 for MKII/MKIV). So it's partially your fault that OpenType Lucida exists in the first place. Blame yourself for the extra choice&price you are offered now ;) But Hans already told you back then: "don't use Lucida", didn't he? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
I was able to get the Type 1 versions working. It seems that the problem the whole time was an orphan kpsewhich living in /usr/bin. After removing it, TL2012's kpsewhich took over and everything is fine. Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
On 12-9-2012 22:24, Troy Henderson wrote: yes, but the fonts are relatively cheap (esp for members) and you get a lot "relatively" is the keyword here as they are the same price that I paid for the Type 1 fonts 3 years ago. So, according to the store website, I essentially have to buy them again. it's more 'relative' to what other commercial fonts cost (whenever we have to do that for a project we end up many times higher than the full set of lucidas which also includes math) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
> > yes, but the fonts are relatively cheap (esp for members) and you get a > lot "relatively" is the keyword here as they are the same price that I paid for the Type 1 fonts 3 years ago. So, according to the store website, I essentially have to buy them again. Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
On 12-9-2012 14:05, Troy Henderson wrote: best is to upgrade the lucida to opentype .. way less hassle and also more complete Would I have to pay for the OpenType versions since I have already purchased the Type1 versions? yes, but the fonts are relatively cheap (esp for members) and you get a lot Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
> > best is to upgrade the lucida to opentype .. way less hassle and also more > complete > Would I have to pay for the OpenType versions since I have already purchased the Type1 versions? Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida fonts
On 12-9-2012 05:48, Troy Henderson wrote: I have recently installed TeXLive 2012, and my Lucida (Type 1) fonts from TUG are installed in the texmf-local tree and function properly when using TeXLive 2011, but it seems that ConTeXt cannot find the fonts for 2012. The instuctions on the wiki do not seem to add a solution for me. I would appreciate any help in the process for installing these fonts for TL2012. best is to upgrade the lucida to opentype .. way less hassle and also more complete http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/index.html Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Lucida fonts
I have recently installed TeXLive 2012, and my Lucida (Type 1) fonts from TUG are installed in the texmf-local tree and function properly when using TeXLive 2011, but it seems that ConTeXt cannot find the fonts for 2012. The instuctions on the wiki do not seem to add a solution for me. I would appreciate any help in the process for installing these fonts for TL2012. Troy Henderson ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 20-2-2010 5:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> I don't know how Hans' metric files look like, but: >> - texfont --ve=yandy ... doesn't do anything here >> - texfont --ve=bh ... creates a bunch of files, however *not* the T1 >> files which are of crucial importance to me; T1 (=ec) is only >> supported via virtual fonts. (And even then the character looks just >> about terrible, but still better than not having it at all.) > > afaik originally yand only shipped texnansi metrics \definetypescriptprefix [e:ec] [8t] \definetypescriptprefix [e:texnansi] [8y] \definetypescriptprefix [e:8r] [8r] Quite possible. Lucida doesn't provide all the ec glyphs anyway (č is not present), but the virtual font on CTAN apparently fakes it successfully by placing caron over c and taking two glyphs (successfully only in technical meaning, so that it works in the first place; typographically it's obvious that the one who did the virtual font has never used that glyph). > however, in context we have this texnansi-* naming scheme and for a while > (as i used lucida often) i shipped the texnansi-* metrics The metrics are there already, it's only that their naming scheme is weird. But unless someone really depends on raw tfm names, the following should work OK: \starttypescript [mono] [lucida] [ec,texnansi,8r] \definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtr] [hlcrt\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}] [encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriter \definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtb] [hlcbt\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}] [encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterBold \definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbto] [hlcrot\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}] [encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterOblique \definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtbo] [hlcbot\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}] [encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriter] [\typescriptthree-lbtr] [encoding=\typescriptthree] \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterBold] [\typescriptthree-lbtb] [encoding=\typescriptthree] \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterOblique] [\typescriptthree-lbto] [encoding=\typescriptthree] \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique] [\typescriptthree-lbtbo] [encoding=\typescriptthree] \loadmapfile[lucida.map] \stoptypescript If one doesn't need the texnansi-lbr synonyms, it can be done more efficiently in a single step. Alternatively we can of course ship the metrics, but assume some LaTeX user with an already working LaTeX installation of Lucida - wouldn't it be great if it worked in ConTeX out-of-the-box? > now, when yandy went out of business and tug took over, things changed and > as the original tfm (math) metrics were no longer shipped we ended up in > some deadlock: context supported the original fonts (present on machines of > users) while tug didn't ship those 8 tfm files needed for math But now the tfm files for math are shipped, or am I missing something? Do you mean some other math fonts? The package on CTAN has the following tfm files (and maybe some extra ones in vf that I didn't manage to check completely yet): hlcda LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demiso, at that point i simply gave up on lucida (i had my own texnansi-* + > original math tfm files) as changing context would break existing lucida > usage > > interesting is that the lucida metrics (afaik) are not shipped with tex live > so we cannot create a robust solution unless we ship with the minimale: What does robust mean? One needs to buy the font anyway, so it won't work out of the box, but it would be nice if it worked out of the box with the files that TUG does ship. Metrics in TeX live don't really help without pfb files and if one installs pfb files, one may easily copy everything else along. Of course we can add the metrics to minimals (optional install), but I would prefer them to match the ones from TUG (currently they are also available on CTAN). > for mkiv (luatex): > > - afm files (for mkiv) > - map file (can be small one) > - only some 8 math tfm files for mkiv > > for mkii: > > - map file > - tfm files (dunno which ones) > - vf files (dunno which ones) I can double-check which ones are not needed, but we could drop at least the 8r encoding. > for mkiv i already adapted the typescripts (in beta), for mkii we need > different mappings I'll take a look. I have noticed that math-vfu does use the metric names from the latest set of fonts. Hoewere one needs to keep in mind that it's not 100% compatible encoding (the "rm" doesn't 100% correspond to the same glyphs in LM, but it's rather a roman variant of "mi", so at least the brackets need to be taken from somewh
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 20-2-2010 5:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote: I don't know how Hans' metric files look like, but: - texfont --ve=yandy ... doesn't do anything here - texfont --ve=bh ... creates a bunch of files, however *not* the T1 files which are of crucial importance to me; T1 (=ec) is only supported via virtual fonts. (And even then the character looks just about terrible, but still better than not having it at all.) afaik originally yand only shipped texnansi metrics however, in context we have this texnansi-* naming scheme and for a while (as i used lucida often) i shipped the texnansi-* metrics now, when yandy went out of business and tug took over, things changed and as the original tfm (math) metrics were no longer shipped we ended up in some deadlock: context supported the original fonts (present on machines of users) while tug didn't ship those 8 tfm files needed for math so, at that point i simply gave up on lucida (i had my own texnansi-* + original math tfm files) as changing context would break existing lucida usage interesting is that the lucida metrics (afaik) are not shipped with tex live so we cannot create a robust solution unless we ship with the minimale: for mkiv (luatex): - afm files (for mkiv) - map file (can be small one) - only some 8 math tfm files for mkiv for mkii: - map file - tfm files (dunno which ones) - vf files (dunno which ones) for mkiv i already adapted the typescripts (in beta), for mkii we need different mappings I have fixed the typescripts, so that one doesn't need to generate any additional files apart from those present on CTAN (and we can also add them to minimals, but it might be nice to cooperate with Hans first to prevent any name clashes). I'll send the typescripts once I figure out some problems, but: ok, alternatively we could ship the texnansi-* and ec-* variants but who cares 1.) Hans, why does \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [file:hlhr.pfb] fail with the message below? (I can send a complete example off-list.) How does one use pfb fonts then? Anyway, \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [name:LucidaBright] works fine, so that's ok for now. Using the accents in XeTeX would require extra tricks anyway, so concentrating on pdftex and luatex seems reasonable. i have no clue ... but best test with the latest beta also, i did a fix in math-vfu (extra nil check) as some shapes seem to be missing even if it works, luatex can quit whem embedding the file (buglet) but that has been fixed by taco yesterday 2.) When reading typescripts for mkii with mkiv ("ec" encoding that is based on virtual fonts), I don't get any accent at all, not even š and ž that are part of texnansi encoding and are present in font. Why is that? nu clue ... maybe because yandy only bothered about texnansi so we might as well stick to that 3.) When creating a devoted mkiv typescript, č is missing (and so are ćđ, but I can live without the two of them as long as Nino is not nearby :), however not being able to use č is a no-go for me. again, maybe the font is not complete i'm a little surprised as i'd suppose those virtual fonts to be ok we can still consider to use the texnansi-* and ec-* variants (texfont generated) I'll get to math later. At the moment I had to figure out how the files are organized and how to use them without having to depend on texfont. lucida was always different but afaik tug now ships them in default tex math encoding so the math-lbr vector is useless now Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 19.02.10 15:45, schrieb luigi scarso: >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Troy Henderson >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am >>> having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from >>> TUG. >>> >>> http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ >>> >>> I have followed the first set of instructions at >>> >>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida >>> >>> and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same >>> document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are >>> fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is >>> there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? >>> If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing >>> to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. >>> >>> I would appreciate any advice. >>> >> >> Maybe simplefonts can help you >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#With_the__simplefonts_module >> > > \usemodule[simplefonts] > > \setmainfont [Lucida Bright] > \setsansfont [Lucida Sans] > \setmonofont [Lucida Sans Typewriter] > \setmathfont [Lucida New Math] > \sethandwritingfont [Lucida Handwriting Italic] > \setcalligraphicfont[Lucida Calligraphy Italic] > > \starttext > > \rm\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps > > \ss\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps > > \tt\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps > > \hw\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps > > \cg\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps > > \startformula > c^2 = a^2 + b^2 > \stopformula > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang "Writing typescripts for \ConTeXt\ can be a tedious job, …" (from simplefonts.tex) I didn't notice … until now -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
Am 19.02.10 15:45, schrieb luigi scarso: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Troy Henderson wrote: I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from TUG. http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ I have followed the first set of instructions at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. I would appreciate any advice. Maybe simplefonts can help you http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#With_the__simplefonts_module \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Lucida Bright] \setsansfont[Lucida Sans] \setmonofont[Lucida Sans Typewriter] \setmathfont[Lucida New Math] \sethandwritingfont [Lucida Handwriting Italic] \setcalligraphicfont[Lucida Calligraphy Italic] \starttext \rm\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps \ss\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps \tt\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps \hw\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps \cg\tf roman \it italic \bf bold \bi bolditalic \sc smallcaps \startformula c^2 = a^2 + b^2 \stopformula \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
I've also noticed that some of the math kerning seems a little off. For example, with $y(x)$ the "y" seems to be way too close to the "(". I'm not sure how much of this is a difference in LaTeX (that I am used to) and ConTeXt's spacing and how much is due to ConTeXt+Lucida. Another example similar to this is $\sin(x)\cos(y)$. The "n" in the "sin" and the "s" in "cos" both seem a little close to the following "(". Perhaps the issue is with the "(" itself. Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
Hello, Here are some of my observations about Lucida fonts (font part for now; math part comes later). I made a detailed check of files that are present on CTAN. I don't know how Hans' metric files look like, but: - texfont --ve=yandy ... doesn't do anything here - texfont --ve=bh ... creates a bunch of files, however *not* the T1 files which are of crucial importance to me; T1 (=ec) is only supported via virtual fonts. (And even then the character looks just about terrible, but still better than not having it at all.) I have fixed the typescripts, so that one doesn't need to generate any additional files apart from those present on CTAN (and we can also add them to minimals, but it might be nice to cooperate with Hans first to prevent any name clashes). I'll send the typescripts once I figure out some problems, but: 1.) Hans, why does \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [file:hlhr.pfb] fail with the message below? (I can send a complete example off-list.) How does one use pfb fonts then? Anyway, \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [name:LucidaBright] works fine, so that's ok for now. Using the accents in XeTeX would require extra tricks anyway, so concentrating on pdftex and luatex seems reasonable. 2.) When reading typescripts for mkii with mkiv ("ec" encoding that is based on virtual fonts), I don't get any accent at all, not even š and ž that are part of texnansi encoding and are present in font. Why is that? 3.) When creating a devoted mkiv typescript, č is missing (and so are ćđ, but I can live without the two of them as long as Nino is not nearby :), however not being able to use č is a no-go for me. I'll get to math later. At the moment I had to figure out how the files are organized and how to use them without having to depend on texfont. Mojca - Here's the error when using [file:something.pfb] as file name: ! LuaTeX error ...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:308: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:308: in function 'read' ...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:585: in function 'read' ...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:367: in function 'command_2' :1: in main chunk. \lowleveldefinefont ...lax , "\relativefontid " )} \edef \somefontspec {at \s... \xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier \fi \csname \newfontidenti... \applyfontclassstrategies ...\fontsize \endcsname \else \expandafter \fontcl... \synchronizefont ...lse \applyfontclassstrategies \fi \autofontsizefalse \if... \rm ->\ifmmode \mathrm \else \normalrm \fi \doswitchstyle ...e \csname \...@style@ #1\endcsname \edef \fontstyle {#1}\ifmm... ... l.9 \setupbodyfont[lucida] ? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 19-2-2010 19:57, Martin Schröder wrote: 2010/2/19 Hans Hagen: Maybe the minimals should ship those lucida math tfm files (i don't know if there are vf files too). I'm not going to buy new lucida math fonts. You get the new fonts for free if you already have the old ones (I must find these discs :-). http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/yyupgrade.html ah! thanks for noticing i actually have kept those floppies but wonder if they're still readable Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
2010/2/19 Hans Hagen : > Maybe the minimals should ship those lucida math tfm files (i don't know if > there are vf files too). I'm not going to buy new lucida math fonts. You get the new fonts for free if you already have the old ones (I must find these discs :-). http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/yyupgrade.html Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 19-2-2010 17:25, Mikael Persson wrote: This is a bit funny, because the problem that Troy has with upright math seems to be exactly the same problem I have with mathdesign, described in the post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100217.211052.21a3f6f3.en.html depends ... as long as those fonts have the normal tex encoding Could it be that something in math-vfu.lua (or elsewhere) is not correct? (I have played with that file, but not succeeded in getting it to work, and the lucida fonts are also handled in that file). someone should figure what files of mathdesign make sense ... maybe the wrong one is used for math roman Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 19-2-2010 18:13, Troy Henderson wrote: Now, by following these steps, I am able to successfully create ConTeXt documents with Lucida fonts (with and without math) using MKII (texexec). However, using the same document with MKIV (context), the document builds fine, all text and math is Lucida, but the math fonts are upright (Roman). for mkiv you don't need those steps as we don't use any encoding except unicode however, as we have no unicode lucida math, we create a virtual font for that on the fly for that we need references to the relevant tfm files and i don't have these so i cannot test that in mkiv, installing lucida should boil down to (assuming minimals): - mkdir texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida - cp * texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida - luatools --generate and then the few typescripts from the previous mail However, the definition in math-vfu might not be ok but i cannot test that. If that zip is still the uptodate ltug one, can you mail it to me off-list? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
> how did you set up your lucida fonts in mkiv? First of all, I did not setup Lucida for MKIV (specifically). The following fonts come with the complete Lucida set from TUG: 46 AFM's 41 PFB's 42 PFM's 164 TFM's 63 VF's I placed all 356 of these font files into the same directory (ignoring directory structure) as well as the following three files lucida.ali lucida.map texnansi-yandy-luc.tex I simply followed these steps from http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida 1) Downloaded lucida-complete.zip from TUG one year ago and extracted the files into my /usr/local/share/texmf tree. I followed the instructions located at http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/README.TUG to ensure that they worked in LaTeX (and they have for the last year) 2) I copied all files (not just the AFM and PFB as the instructions suggested) into the temporary directory (as indicated above) 3) Executed the following command: texfont --fontroot=/opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-local --ve=yandy --co=luc --ma --in --expert 4) Downloaded and extracted the following file into /opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-local http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/lucida-cint.zip-0.9.zip 5) Nothing to do 6) Copied the type-luc.tex (provided by lucida-cint.zip-0.9.zip) into /opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base 7) Copied the cont-sys.tex (located originally in /opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base) into /opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user and edited it adding the line \usetypescriptfile[type-luc] 8) Executed `mktexlsr` 9) and 10) Added the following code to the preface of my ConTeXt document \usetypescript[luc][texnansi] \setupformulas[method=bold] \setupbodyfont[luc,10pt] \enablemathcollection[lbr] \usemathcollection[lbr] Notice that the line \input math-lbr was omitted because it is evidently not part of my ConTeXt minimals installation (although it is in my TeX Live 2008 installation). Now, by following these steps, I am able to successfully create ConTeXt documents with Lucida fonts (with and without math) using MKII (texexec). However, using the same document with MKIV (context), the document builds fine, all text and math is Lucida, but the math fonts are upright (Roman). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 19-2-2010 14:50, Troy Henderson wrote: >> >> I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am >> having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from >> TUG. >> >> http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ >> >> I have followed the first set of instructions at >> >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida >> >> and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same >> document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are >> fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is >> there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? >> If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing >> to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. >> >> I would appreciate any advice. > > This sort of works apart from math. The problem with lucida is that it was > originally shipped by yandy and when tug took over the metric files were not > keps as is (or even shipped) but changed to different names (hlcra.tfm etc) > and these don't ship with texlive so i cannot test (i have the original > lucida maths fonts). > > This leave all those who bought lucida in the past without proper support. > As the metrics etc were made for latex, latex users probably don't notice > this, but tex users who rolled out their own font code (or other packages) > are crippled by this. > > Maybe the minimals should ship those lucida math tfm files (i don't know if > there are vf files too). I'm not going to buy new lucida math fonts. > > for mkiv lucida math is turned into a virtual unicode font (math-vfu) but as > said i cannot test it without the proper metrics; actually, these math fonts > is the only place where mkiv still uses tfm files > > \starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [name] > \usetypescript[serif][fallback] > \definefontsynonym[Serif] [name:LucidaBright] > \definefontsynonym[SerifBold] [name:LucidaBright-Demi] > \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic] [name:LucidaBright-Italic] > \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaBright-DemiItalic] > \stoptypescript > > \starttypescript [sans] [lucida] [name] > \usetypescript[sans][fallback] > \definefontsynonym[Sans] [name:LucidaSans] > \definefontsynonym[SansItalic] [name:LucidaSans-Oblique] > \definefontsynonym[SansBold] [name:LucidaSans-Demi] > \definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic] [name:LucidaSans-DemiOblique] > \stoptypescript > > \starttypescript [mono] [lucida] [name] > \usetypescript[mono][fallback] > \definefontsynonym[Mono] > [name:LucidaSans-Typewriter] > \definefontsynonym[MonoItalic] > [name:LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique] > \definefontsynonym[MonoBold] > [name:LucidaSans-TypewriterBold] > \definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic] > [name:LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique] > \stoptypescript > > > \definetypeface[MyLucida][rm][serif][lucida][default][features=default] > \definetypeface[MyLucida][ss][sans] [lucida][default][features=default] > \definetypeface[MyLucida][tt][mono] [lucida][default][features=default] > \definetypeface[MyLucida][mm][math] [lucida][default] > > \setupbodyfont[MyLucida] > > \starttext > > test $x$ > > \stoptext > This is a bit funny, because the problem that Troy has with upright math seems to be exactly the same problem I have with mathdesign, described in the post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100217.211052.21a3f6f3.en.html Could it be that something in math-vfu.lua (or elsewhere) is not correct? (I have played with that file, but not succeeded in getting it to work, and the lucida fonts are also handled in that file). Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 19-2-2010 14:50, Troy Henderson wrote: I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from TUG. http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ I have followed the first set of instructions at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. I would appreciate any advice. This sort of works apart from math. The problem with lucida is that it was originally shipped by yandy and when tug took over the metric files were not keps as is (or even shipped) but changed to different names (hlcra.tfm etc) and these don't ship with texlive so i cannot test (i have the original lucida maths fonts). This leave all those who bought lucida in the past without proper support. As the metrics etc were made for latex, latex users probably don't notice this, but tex users who rolled out their own font code (or other packages) are crippled by this. Maybe the minimals should ship those lucida math tfm files (i don't know if there are vf files too). I'm not going to buy new lucida math fonts. for mkiv lucida math is turned into a virtual unicode font (math-vfu) but as said i cannot test it without the proper metrics; actually, these math fonts is the only place where mkiv still uses tfm files \starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [name] \usetypescript[serif][fallback] \definefontsynonym[Serif] [name:LucidaBright] \definefontsynonym[SerifBold] [name:LucidaBright-Demi] \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaBright-Italic] \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaBright-DemiItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [sans] [lucida] [name] \usetypescript[sans][fallback] \definefontsynonym[Sans][name:LucidaSans] \definefontsynonym[SansItalic] [name:LucidaSans-Oblique] \definefontsynonym[SansBold][name:LucidaSans-Demi] \definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic] [name:LucidaSans-DemiOblique] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mono] [lucida] [name] \usetypescript[mono][fallback] \definefontsynonym[Mono] [name:LucidaSans-Typewriter] \definefontsynonym[MonoItalic] [name:LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique] \definefontsynonym[MonoBold][name:LucidaSans-TypewriterBold] \definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic] [name:LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique] \stoptypescript \definetypeface[MyLucida][rm][serif][lucida][default][features=default] \definetypeface[MyLucida][ss][sans] [lucida][default][features=default] \definetypeface[MyLucida][tt][mono] [lucida][default][features=default] \definetypeface[MyLucida][mm][math] [lucida][default] \setupbodyfont[MyLucida] \starttext test $x$ \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On 19-2-2010 14:50, Troy Henderson wrote: I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from TUG. http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ I have followed the first set of instructions at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. I would appreciate any advice. how did you set up your lucida fonts in mkiv? (hard to test here as i only have the former yandy lucidas) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Troy Henderson wrote: > I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am > having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from > TUG. > > http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ > > I have followed the first set of instructions at > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida > > and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same > document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are > fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is > there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? > If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing > to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. > > I would appreciate any advice. Maybe simplefonts can help you http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#With_the__simplefonts_module -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
> When building the same document (that works for MKIV) Typo. I mean that work for MKII > with MKIV (context), the text fonts are ... Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
I am a LaTeX user for about 15 years, but I am very new ConTeXt. I am having trouble using the complete set of Lucida fonts purchased from TUG. http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/ I have followed the first set of instructions at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida and the fonts work great for MKII (texexec). When building the same document (that works for MKIV) with MKIV (context), the text fonts are fine but the math fonts are set in Roman instead instead of math. Is there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. I would appreciate any advice. Troy Henderson ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts
David Arnold wrote: All, Now that YandY is defunct, where would one now purchase the Lucida font. We used to be able to get the entire set from YandY, math included. Does that set still exist and where can it be purchased? http://www.tug.org/yandy/ says that tug is negotiating ... (afaik most of yandy stuff except third party fonts like lucida is now transfered to and hosted by tug) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts
On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:47 PM, David Arnold wrote: Now that YandY is defunct, where would one now purchase the Lucida font. We used to be able to get the entire set from YandY, math included. Does that set still exist and where can it be purchased? The set with math will soon be available from the TeX Users Group. Steve ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Lucida Fonts
All, Now that YandY is defunct, where would one now purchase the Lucida font. We used to be able to get the entire set from YandY, math included. Does that set still exist and where can it be purchased? David ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lucida fonts
Arun Swarup wrote: Hi, do i have to buy the lucida font for ConTeXt? im using TeXLive 2003 ConTeXt installation, and ConTeXt gives me rough (T3) fonts in the pdf file ... dont even ask about the .dvi ... it cant find some font files i've stopped trying to use lucida & have contended myself with CM :( in principle it should be possible to use the system lucida fonts; i never tried this but if someone figures that out we can add support to the distribution else you have to buy them (teh right ones); concerning metrics, if needed i can send a zip with metrics, but they are of no use without the type 1 files. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] lucida fonts
Hi, do i have to buy the lucida font for ConTeXt? im using TeXLive 2003 ConTeXt installation, and ConTeXt gives me rough (T3) fonts in the pdf file ... dont even ask about the .dvi ... it cant find some font files i've stopped trying to use lucida & have contended myself with CM :( -arun __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lucida fonts
It seems that nothing is known yet, you should subscribe/ask on the yandytex support mailing list, I guess. It is linked from http://tug.org/yandy Greetings, Taco Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, Now that yandy has gone into a more fancy business (www.yandy.com, looking at the menu it looks like they now also sell special latex stuff -) i wonder where one can get the usual bunch of lucida fonts needed for tex; any ideas? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] lucida fonts
Hi, Now that yandy has gone into a more fancy business (www.yandy.com, looking at the menu it looks like they now also sell special latex stuff -) i wonder where one can get the usual bunch of lucida fonts needed for tex; any ideas? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context