Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Gavin Sinclair wrote:
 


Greetings (first post),

Adam Lindsay's recent article OpenType installation basics for
ConTeXt in The PracTeX Journal
(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.

As the article specified, I ran the command:

$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern

It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
   



After playing a bit with TeXfont I figured out that it is pretty
hopeless to try to use TeXfont under windows (esp. under MikTeX) until
some code portions get fixed. You can replace single quotes by double
quotes in line 900 of TeXfont, but that won't lead you much further.
There are problems with slashes/backslashes as well (the developers
use linux  mac and probably nobody ever checked the functionality
under windows besides the fact that I had problems with otftotfm
alone).

 

the problem is limited to the otf part ... the rest works ok for me on 
windows



In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.
 

we can set up a font repository ... 

Hans 


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-10 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On 9/10/05, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snip good helpful info...]

 In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
 metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
 manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.

Or maybe start using teTeX under Cygwin...

Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
 Greetings (first post),
 
 Adam Lindsay's recent article OpenType installation basics for
 ConTeXt in The PracTeX Journal
 (http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
 Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
 
 As the article specified, I ran the command:
 
 $ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern
 
 It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.

After playing a bit with TeXfont I figured out that it is pretty
hopeless to try to use TeXfont under windows (esp. under MikTeX) until
some code portions get fixed. You can replace single quotes by double
quotes in line 900 of TeXfont, but that won't lead you much further.
There are problems with slashes/backslashes as well (the developers
use linux  mac and probably nobody ever checked the functionality
under windows besides the fact that I had problems with otftotfm
alone).

In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-08 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On 9/8/05, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gavin Sinclair wrote:
  Adam Lindsay wrote:
   (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
   latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
   was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
 
  I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
  ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
  date.
 
 Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
 Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
 format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
 distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
 best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
 advantages however.)

Thanks for the tip.  texexec --version tells me 

   context : ver: 2005.06.27
   cont-en : ver: 2005.06.27  fmt: 2005.8.31  mes: english

which is pretty uncool.  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
 I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...

How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, right?

Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-08 Thread Hans Hagen

Gavin Sinclair wrote:


On 9/8/05, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Gavin Sinclair wrote:
   


Adam Lindsay wrote:
 


(This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
   


I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
date.
 


Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
advantages however.)
   



Thanks for the tip.  texexec --version tells me 


  context : ver: 2005.06.27
  cont-en : ver: 2005.06.27  fmt: 2005.8.31  mes: english

which is pretty uncool.  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...

How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, right?
 


just unzip the file in some safe place, running 'setuptex' (in a dos box) 
should give you an isolated tex environment; it's on my agenda to provide a 
miktex bintree as well, but only for testing since miktex has a rather good 
update mechanism (no reason to duplicate that -)

[my main reason for putting the minimals on the web is that they provide isolated environments, which is somethign i need for projects]; they also demonstrate what is needed for context 

Hans 


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-08 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On 9/8/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [...]  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
  I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
 and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
 distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
 experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...
 
 How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, 
 right?

 just unzip the file in some safe place, running 'setuptex' (in a dos box) 
 should give you an isolated tex environment; it's on my agenda to provide a 
 miktex bintree as well, but only for testing since miktex has a rather good 
 update mechanism (no reason to duplicate that -)
 
 [my main reason for putting the minimals on the web is that they provide 
 isolated environments, which is somethign i need for projects]; they also 
 demonstrate what is needed for context

By isolated tex environment I presume you mean an environment that
only runs in that dos box.  Is that right?

Does that isolated environment clash with another TeX installation
(i.e. MiKTeX in this case)?  I'm led to believe TeX installations are
very territorial: they can't tolerate other installations on the same
computer!

Thanks,
Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-08 Thread Hans Hagen

Gavin Sinclair wrote:


By isolated tex environment I presume you mean an environment that
only runs in that dos box.  Is that right?

Does that isolated environment clash with another TeX installation
(i.e. MiKTeX in this case)?  I'm led to believe TeX installations are
very territorial: they can't tolerate other installations on the same
computer!
 


the minimal distributions are really isolated, this is what setuptex.bat does; 
one drawback of the regular distributions is that they assume that they are 
installed as only tex distribution; the minimals are set up in such a way that 
one can run many of them in parallel as well as support multiple platforms with 
binaries that are out of sync with each other (hence the texmf-mswin etc 
trees); actually, if we had a texmf-miktex binary tree we could run fptex and 
miktex in parallel (i have to pick up that thread)

Hans  




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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-07 Thread Adam Lindsay
Gavin Sinclair said this at Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +1000:

Greetings (first post),

Hi Gavin,

Two things:
Are you running texfont from the directory that contains all the .otf files?

(This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.

(sorry for the delay--I'm on the road)

adam


Adam Lindsay's recent article OpenType installation basics for
ConTeXt in The PracTeX Journal
(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.

As the article specified, I ran the command:

$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern

It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
Selected output follows:

   extending map file :
E:/MiKTeX/local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-LIGA-KERN-public-
torunska.map

  font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-Bold - text - tfm
 processing files : otf - tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-Bold.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

  font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic - text - tfm
 processing files : otf - tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

  [and so on for each .otf file]


So, otftotfm is claiming that the files don't exist, but they
absolutely 100% do.  Perhaps it's looking for them somewhere else?

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards,
Gavin
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-07 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On 9/7/05, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Gavin,
 
 Two things:
 Are you running texfont from the directory that contains all the .otf files?

Absolutely.  It's a temporary directory containing those files.  The
first part of the process went fine.
 
 (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
 latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
 was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.

I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
date.

I recently downloaded the mswincontext.zip package and intend to dump
MiKTeX and use that instead.  Haven't proceeded yet, but will let you
know how it goes.

 (sorry for the delay--I'm on the road)

Thanks a lot for the reply!

Gavin

 Adam Lindsay's recent article OpenType installation basics for
 ConTeXt in The PracTeX Journal
 (http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
 Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
  [snip...]
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-07 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Gavin Sinclair wrote:


I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
date.


You can easily verify this by running texexec --version. The latest
version of context is 2005.08.31.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-07 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
 Adam Lindsay wrote:
  (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
  latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
  was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
 
 I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
 ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
 date.

Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
advantages however.)

A while ago it was much better, but now it seems that they are busy
with preparation of MikTeX 2.5.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Problem following OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt article

2005-09-02 Thread Gavin Sinclair
Greetings (first post),

Adam Lindsay's recent article OpenType installation basics for
ConTeXt in The PracTeX Journal
(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.

As the article specified, I ran the command:

$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern

It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
Selected output follows:

   extending map file :
E:/MiKTeX/local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-LIGA-KERN-public-torunska.map

  font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-Bold - text - tfm
 processing files : otf - tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-Bold.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

  font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic - text - tfm
 processing files : otf - tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

  [and so on for each .otf file]


So, otftotfm is claiming that the files don't exist, but they
absolutely 100% do.  Perhaps it's looking for them somewhere else?

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards,
Gavin
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