Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-22 Thread Hans Hagen
At 07:05 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: Used for substituion, I guess. pdftex will include those then. I takes metrics from p* and includes u*. it may be more complicates, esp if there wre virtual fonts involved, in which case tex uses a file abc.tfm and pdftex (dvips) also uses a vf file

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-21 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Henning, Well, concerning the ss: Just install the Adobe Helvetica (free) and that's it (except for patching ConTeXt ;-) Helvetica belongs to the standard PS fonts as Palatino does, but none of them is free! At Adobe the standard fonts are

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-21 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, The pfb files from urw are shipped with TeXlive and TeTeX. what is the use of pfb's without the tfm's Used for substituion, I guess. pdftex will include those then. I takes metrics from p* and includes u*. hm, but you can of course make a

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-14 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:31 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: the MAP-file is a nice place for the real font selection. I agree with that. (Did you mean it this way?) hm, i disagree -) unless you keep your map files with your specific styles / projects How should i tell normal users that their

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-13 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Jens-Uwe Morawski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Jens and others, Well, in my opinion, the berry typesript is sub-optimal, since it maps to the urw variants that are a) shipped with a few TeX systems only and b) (even worse) the urw variant helvetica (nimbus sans) is of no real use for the

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-13 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Hans and others, 1) TeX macro package (aka LaTeX ;-) asks for Adobe Helvetica, it gets the font metrics from phvtfm. Then, in the map files the users decides whether to use the original adobe fonts or the substitues. Right, and that is

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-13 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:54 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, you wrote: It is not a matter of having gs installed or not. Since TeX is just looking for the tfm files, you need them. But is there any TeX System with the tfm file for the urw variants besides TeXlive? TeTeX doesn't have 'em and teTeX is widely distributed. so we

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-13 Thread Hans Hagen
At 10:07 AM 3/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2003 07:37 am, Hans Hagen wrote: (snip) Is it possible to take a deep breath and go back to the starting point, the TeX primitive \font? It allows one to name a specific font as listed in e.g. psfonts.map or some other designated

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-12 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Maarten Sneep [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello! Right. Patrick has a file that maps the ConTeXt names to the pfsnss names, which solves the problem. Although that means you have to adapt the sources of the files you receive to use this intermediate translation file. You don't need to.

[NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-12 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Hans, At 03:05 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Well, in my opinion, the berry typesript is sub-optimal, since it maps to the urw variants that are a) shipped with a few TeX systems only and b) (even worse) the urw variant helvetica (nimbus sans) is of

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-12 Thread Jens-Uwe Morawski
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:43:40 +0100 Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:05 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Well, in my opinion, the berry typesript is sub-optimal, since it maps to the urw variants that are a) shipped with a few TeX systems only and b) (even worse) the urw