Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On 28-5-2012 20:51, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote: After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? indeed Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support the idea to print missing characters by default. one can configure that locally ... much functionality only kicks in when really used (thereby limiting the overhead) and in that case messages also get suppressed till they make sense I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to make it clearly stand out from the rest? i once played with it (1) but such a thing will only work on a console that supports ansi escape sequences (and console output of tex is already rather slow and flushing being character based it might give problems) Hans (1) in pdftex times ... it failed due to thsu ^^ escaping that tex applies - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On 28-5-2012 20:51, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote: After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? indeed Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support the idea to print missing characters by default. I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to make it clearly stand out from the rest? clang and CMake use that regularly for example. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote: > >> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the >> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? > > indeed Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support the idea to print missing characters by default. I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to make it clearly stand out from the rest? clang and CMake use that regularly for example. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
Hans Hagen writes: > On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote: > >> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the >> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? > > indeed but you can enable it in your local cont-sys.tex file or in > your texmfcnf.lua additions I see, thanks! Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote: After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? indeed but you can enable it in your local cont-sys.tex file or in your texmfcnf.lua additions Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
Marco Pessotto writes: > Hans Hagen writes: > >> On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote: >> >>> enabletrackers[fonts.missing] >>> \mainlanguage[hr] >>> \starttext ȃ\stoptext >> >> indeed better After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit? -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
Hans Hagen writes: > On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote: > >> enabletrackers[fonts.missing] >> \mainlanguage[hr] >> \starttext ȃ\stoptext > > indeed better > Wikified. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#Get_a_warning_if_the_glyph_is_missing Cheers -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote: enabletrackers[fonts.missing] \mainlanguage[hr] \starttext ȃ\stoptext indeed better Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:45 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>>
>>> Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
>>> (p.97):
>>>
>>> “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
>>> file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
>>>
>>> Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
>>> (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
>>> data is always there :-)
>>>
>>> Minimal example:
>>>
>>> %% start
>>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
>>> \stoptext
>>> %% stop
>>>
>>> The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
>>>
>>> So:
>>>
>>> $ context prova.tex
>>>
>>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>>> [ match nothing ]
>>>
>>> $ texexec --xtx prova.tex
>>>
>>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>>
>>> It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
>>> year ConTeXt.
>>
>>
>> You can add this:
>>
>> \checkcharactersinfont
>>
>> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I forgot
>> () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>>
>> (fixed in next beta)
>>
>> Hans
>
> Also
>
> enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
> \mainlanguage[hr]
> \starttext ȃ\stoptext
Uh I mean
\enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext ȃ\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
Hans Hagen writes:
> You can add this:
>
> \checkcharactersinfont
>
> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I
> forgot () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>
> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont
> {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>
> (fixed in next beta)
And indeed this works.
Thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
>> (p.97):
>>
>> “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
>> file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
>>
>> Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
>> (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
>> data is always there :-)
>>
>> Minimal example:
>>
>> %% start
>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>>
>> \starttext
>> Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
>> \stoptext
>> %% stop
>>
>> The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
>>
>> So:
>>
>> $ context prova.tex
>>
>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>> [ match nothing ]
>>
>> $ texexec --xtx prova.tex
>>
>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>
>> It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
>> year ConTeXt.
>
>
> You can add this:
>
> \checkcharactersinfont
>
> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I forgot
> () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>
> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>
> (fixed in next beta)
>
> Hans
Also
enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext ȃ\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
Hello all.
Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
(p.97):
“In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
(texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
data is always there :-)
Minimal example:
%% start
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext
Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
\stoptext
%% stop
The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
So:
$ context prova.tex
$ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
[ match nothing ]
$ texexec --xtx prova.tex
$ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
[lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
[lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
year ConTeXt.
You can add this:
\checkcharactersinfont
and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I
forgot () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
\unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont
{\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
(fixed in next beta)
Hans
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[NTG-context] Missing "missing character" warning
Hello all. Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement (p.97): “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph]. Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing data is always there :-) Minimal example: %% start \mainlanguage[hr] \starttext Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu. \stoptext %% stop The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203) So: $ context prova.tex $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.* [ match nothing ] $ texexec --xtx prova.tex $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.* prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last year ConTeXt. Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
