Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On 24-3-2010 17:46, Michail Vidiassov wrote: Dear Hans, when given examples of something that does not work i can repair it take a look at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/047898.html - it is about problem with movies, but movies and u3d are both done via annotations, thus there are similarities. i uploaded a new version, movies seem to work, u3d not tested - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] status of node.write
Dear All,
I notice that broken code for inserting movies uses
node.write in codeinjections.insertmovie (in back-pdf.lua),
while figures.checkers.mov (in grph-inc.lua) expects text return
from codeinjections.insertmovie to feed to texsprint(ctxcatcodes.
The 3D annotation code (it also seems not to work) has
node.write variant commented out and replaced with
texsprint(ctxcatcodes with b comment!
local annot, preview, ref = backends.pdf.helpers.insert3d {
..
}
-- node.write(pdfannotation(width,-height,0,annot()))
texsprint(ctxcatcodes,format(\\pdfannot width %ssp height %ssp
{%s},width,height,annot())) -- b
--~ if ref then -- wrong ! a direct ref should work
--~ texsprint(ctxcatcodes,format(\\smash{\\pdfrefximage%s\\relax},ref)) --
b
--~ end
texsprint(ctxcatcodes,\\stopfoundexternalfigure)
And the question is: does it make sense to try to make the current 3D
annotation handling code work by complaining to the maintainers and/or
fixing it myself or nothing is supposed to work till migration to
from texsprint(ctxcatcodes API to node.write API is complete?
Sincerely, Michail
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Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Michail Vidiassov mas...@iaas.msu.ru wrote:
Dear All,
I notice that broken code for inserting movies uses
node.write in codeinjections.insertmovie (in back-pdf.lua),
while figures.checkers.mov (in grph-inc.lua) expects text return
from codeinjections.insertmovie to feed to texsprint(ctxcatcodes.
The 3D annotation code (it also seems not to work) has
node.write variant commented out and replaced with
texsprint(ctxcatcodes with b comment!
local annot, preview, ref = backends.pdf.helpers.insert3d {
..
}
-- node.write(pdfannotation(width,-height,0,annot()))
texsprint(ctxcatcodes,format(\\pdfannot width %ssp height %ssp
{%s},width,height,annot())) -- b
--~ if ref then -- wrong ! a direct ref should work
--~
texsprint(ctxcatcodes,format(\\smash{\\pdfrefximage%s\\relax},ref)) --
b
--~ end
texsprint(ctxcatcodes,\\stopfoundexternalfigure)
And the question is: does it make sense to try to make the current 3D
annotation handling code work by complaining to the maintainers and/or
fixing it myself or nothing is supposed to work till migration to from
texsprint(ctxcatcodes API to node.write API is complete?
I'm pretty sure that I still don't understand much , but
I have written an article for including swf in mkiv , cfr
http://wiki.pctex.com/index.php/PracTeXJournal
PracTeXJournal should be on-line next month,
and I have planned 2nd part x next issue.
I'm watching at your u3d files to maintains same style.
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On 24-3-2010 10:23, Michail Vidiassov wrote: Dear All, I notice that broken code for inserting movies uses node.write in codeinjections.insertmovie (in back-pdf.lua), while figures.checkers.mov (in grph-inc.lua) expects text return from codeinjections.insertmovie to feed to texsprint(ctxcatcodes. i need a test - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
Dear Luigi and All, On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, luigi scarso wrote: I'm pretty sure that I still don't understand much , but I have written an article for including swf in mkiv , cfr am I correct to assume that swf inclusion works ok and is done in a current kosher way in latest minimals and so can be used as a reference for inclusion of other types? Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Michail Vidiassov mas...@iaas.msu.ru wrote: Dear Luigi and All, On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, luigi scarso wrote: I'm pretty sure that I still don't understand much , but I have written an article for including swf in mkiv , cfr am I correct to assume that swf inclusion works ok and is done in a current kosher way in latest minimals and so can be used as a reference for inclusion of other types? Sincerely, Michail No no no, and I'm sorry for misunderstanding. In practex I have written a really dirty way to include a swf in mkiv based on flashmovie.sty . Hans provided me the skeleton -- like yours u3d files --- and I must rewrite a 2nd article to implement the mkiv way. So in no way files in minimals are ready for swf embedding: it's still a test, because flash player embedded AdobeRead is absolutely new for me . Anyway it's my next project --- after I've finished some articles abut FellType, ~next week. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
Dear Luigi and All, On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, luigi scarso wrote: Hans provided me the skeleton -- like yours u3d files --- and I must rewrite a 2nd article to implement the mkiv way. And where the mkiv way is to be studued? What kinds of inclusion not only work, but are implemented in the modern way and so are fit to be emulated? Is node.write mkiv way or not yet? Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On 24-3-2010 10:52, luigi scarso wrote: I'm watching at your u3d files to maintains same style. there is u3d support presen tbut nobody tested it also, we can only improve it if we have a proper test set (also true for swf) that we can add to the samples section, simple public tests Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Michail Vidiassov mas...@iaas.msu.ru wrote: Dear Luigi and All, On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, luigi scarso wrote: Hans provided me the skeleton -- like yours u3d files --- and I must rewrite a 2nd article to implement the mkiv way. And where the mkiv way is to be studued? What kinds of inclusion not only work, but are implemented in the modern way and so are fit to be emulated? Is node.write mkiv way or not yet? Sincerely, Michail As I wrote, I quite don't understand well this area. For now I can say that the mkiv way is a mix of lua and tex, while the latex/mkii/pdftex tex way is described in flashmovie.sty Also Adobe Supplement to the ISO 32000 base version 1.7 extensione level 3 is the guideline. I much prefear to code by myself without ask for Hans now, it's a way to understand this aspect that I don't manage well. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
On 24-3-2010 15:20, luigi scarso wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Michail Vidiassovmas...@iaas.msu.ru wrote: Dear Luigi and All, On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, luigi scarso wrote: Hans provided me the skeleton -- like yours u3d files --- and I must rewrite a 2nd article to implement the mkiv way. And where the mkiv way is to be studued? What kinds of inclusion not only work, but are implemented in the modern way and so are fit to be emulated? Is node.write mkiv way or not yet? Sincerely, Michail As I wrote, I quite don't understand well this area. For now I can say that the mkiv way is a mix of lua and tex, while the latex/mkii/pdftex tex way is described in flashmovie.sty Also Adobe Supplement to the ISO 32000 base version 1.7 extensione level 3 is the guideline. I much prefear to code by myself without ask for Hans now, it's a way to understand this aspect that I don't manage well. it is already coded .. see back-u3d.mkiv for the interface when given examples of something that does not work i can repair it mkii/sty files are of no use here as things need to fit into the context user interface Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] status of node.write
Dear Hans, when given examples of something that does not work i can repair it take a look at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/047898.html - it is about problem with movies, but movies and u3d are both done via annotations, thus there are similarities. it is already coded .. see back-u3d.mkiv for the interface the interface seems to be disfunctional now, I'll supply examples once I get to a computer with working luatex (my personal one is still disfunctional since the fix for luatex problem I reported at http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/048022.html did not find its way to precompiled binaries yet). Sincerely, Michail ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
