Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also, as part of my ?getting back into the loop?, do you think there's some where/some how I can give a hand? well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ... Ah, this is something I can more probably involve my university with. While my advisor doesn't care much about TeX per se, numerical things are much more of its taste. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course, I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox wouldn't do it ... sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box; Makes sense. streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that kind of stuff You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime, choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it would have been a useful addition. this will become configurable in luatex (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see that the project has been taken over when I disappeared without a trace :P) well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -) also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime, choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it would have been a useful addition. this will become configurable in luatex Ah, good to know. (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see that the project has been taken over when I disappeared without a trace :P) well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -) Yeah, I got that impression :) also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff) This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also, as part of my getting back into the loop, do you think there's some where/some how I can give a hand? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also, as part of my �getting back into the loop�, do you think there's some where/some how I can give a hand? well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ... mplib will be linked into luatex Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:27 +0200 Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, here's a test document: [test document] As you may notice, items think the placefigure refers to all of them, so that if a particular item is bigger than the figure height, it will wrap correctly around the (inexistent) box, otherwise it will just side it. Interesting, the same thing does *not* happen when not going through a box, but typesetting things directly in the page. However, for my application I need to typeset the sidefloat and the itemization in a box, so I hit the bug ... Suggestions? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta Hi Giuseppe, you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism. \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \usemodule[streams] \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth] \newbox\giuseppe \starttext \startstreamlayer[giuseppe] \placefigure [outer,none,fit] {} {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}} \startitemize \item some test \item \input knuth \item \input tufte \stopitemize \stopstreamlayer \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]} \page \startstreamlayer[giuseppe] \placefigure [outer,none,fit] {} {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}} \startitemize \item some test \item \input knuth \item \input tufte \stopitemize \stopstreamlayer \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]} \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism. \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \usemodule[streams] \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth] \newbox\giuseppe \starttext \startstreamlayer[giuseppe] \placefigure [outer,none,fit] {} {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}} \startitemize \item some test \item \input knuth \item \input tufte \stopitemize \stopstreamlayer \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]} \stoptext Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course, I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox wouldn't do it ... -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism. \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \usemodule[streams] \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth] \newbox\giuseppe \starttext \startstreamlayer[giuseppe] \placefigure [outer,none,fit] {} {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}} \startitemize \item some test \item \input knuth \item \input tufte \stopitemize \stopstreamlayer \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]} \stoptext Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course, I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox wouldn't do it ... sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box; streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that kind of stuff Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism. \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \usemodule[streams] \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth] I've noticed that specifying width= in the streamlayer definition is not enough to force the stream width. If the width is different from the textwidth, I have to use something like \startsetups streamlayer:giuseppe:settings \overloadtextwidth\gbwidth \stopsetups I would have expected \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\gbwidth] to handle this automatically though. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course, I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox wouldn't do it ... sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box; Makes sense. streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that kind of stuff You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime, choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it would have been a useful addition. (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see that the project has been taken over when I disappeared without a trace :P) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___