Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:08, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
Why not just put it in a float?
OK, after some fiddling around, a combination of a framed text in a
float seems to work.
Definitions:
\definefloat[pullquote][pullquotes] % Define a new type of float
\setupcaption[pullquote][location=none] % Set it to have no captions
\defineframedtext[pullquote][frame=off] % Define a new type of framed
text with no visible frame
Usage:
\placepullquote[right]{}{
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
\tfc “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
\stoppullquote}
The {} in the \placepullquote is the text for the caption, which in
this case is set up to be invisible. Obviously you could use the
caption feature to cite the source of quotations.
Added to the wiki.
mathew
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Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
Am 28.04.2011 um 18:27 schrieb mathew:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:08, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
Why not just put it in a float?
OK, after some fiddling around, a combination of a framed text in a
float seems to work.
Definitions:
\definefloat[pullquote][pullquotes] % Define a new type of float
\setupcaption[pullquote][location=none] % Set it to have no captions
\defineframedtext[pullquote][frame=off] % Define a new type of framed
text with no visible frame
Usage:
\placepullquote[right]{}{
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
\tfc “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
\stoppullquote}
The {} in the \placepullquote is the text for the caption, which in
this case is set up to be invisible. Obviously you could use the
caption feature to cite the source of quotations.
As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\PullquoteCommand
{\placefigure[\annotationparameter{location},none]{}%
{\framedtext
[frame=off,
width=\annotationparameter{width},
style=\annotationparameter{style}]
% {“#2”}}}
{\setupinterlinespace“#2”\par}}}
\defineannotation
[pullquote]
[alternative=command,
command=\PullquoteCommand,
location=right,
width=fit,
style=\tfc]
\starttext
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\blank
\startpullquote[width=4cm,location=left]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
2011/4/28 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only):
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\PullquoteCommand
{\placefigure[\annotationparameter{location},none]{}%
{\framedtext
[frame=off,
width=\annotationparameter{width},
style=\annotationparameter{style}]
% {“#2”}}}
{\setupinterlinespace“#2”\par}}}
\defineannotation
[pullquote]
[alternative=command,
command=\PullquoteCommand,
location=right,
width=fit,
style=\tfc]
\starttext
\startpullquote[width=4cm]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\blank
\startpullquote[width=4cm,location=left]
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
\stoppullquote
\input knuth
\stoptext
Looks great, but you can not use center. Would that be possible. When
using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the
quote. It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of
the quote,
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Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On 2011-04-28 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great, but you can not use center. Sure you can. When using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the quote. A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read. It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of the quote, Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the text continues in full-width? This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
Am 28.04.2011 um 21:53 schrieb Marco: On 2011-04-28 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great, but you can not use center. Sure you can. As the argument of the location key is just passed to \placefigure you can use any valid placefloat keyword. When using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the quote. A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read. And there are many ways to make it fancy: http://layersmagazine.com/indesign-paragraph-rules.html It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of the quote, Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the text continues in full-width? http://www.elijournals.com/images/articleFigures/0302/msw0321a.gif This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. I don’t think so because it’s common in magazines but TeX isn’t the best tool for this. • http://www.wyssdesign.com/Wyss_Design_Images/Bookprojects/Wyss_Design_Success_Spread1.jpg • http://www.twopeaspublishing.com/assets/sample_pullquote.jpg • http://homeforprofits.com/wp-content/uploads/wikipedia-pullquote.png • http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-2897250-31035/Picture+32.png Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On 2011-04-28 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: When using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the quote. A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read. And there are many ways to make it fancy: http://layersmagazine.com/indesign-paragraph-rules.html I never doubted that pull quotes can't be fancy ;) It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of the quote, Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the text continues in full-width? http://www.elijournals.com/images/articleFigures/0302/msw0321a.gif I intentionally didn't suggest a layout like this. 1st it has a horrible spacing and 2nd it's very hard to read. This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. I don’t think so because it’s common in magazines but TeX isn’t the best tool for this. Mostly in magazines the layout comes first and the readability second, that's why magazines can't be a measure for a readable layout. Best example is variable inter-character spacing. • http://www.wyssdesign.com/Wyss_Design_Images/Bookprojects/Wyss_Design_Success_Spread1.jpg • http://www.twopeaspublishing.com/assets/sample_pullquote.jpg These both pull quotes are not centred. • http://homeforprofits.com/wp-content/uploads/wikipedia-pullquote.png • http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-2897250-31035/Picture+32.png This looks fine, it's common this way. But it only works in a two-column layout. I assumed we're talking about one column layouts. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only): Could you comment on the advantages of your solution, given its greater complexity? mathew -- URL:http://www.pobox.com/~meta/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
Am 28.04.2011 um 22:56 schrieb Marco: http://www.elijournals.com/images/articleFigures/0302/msw0321a.gif I intentionally didn't suggest a layout like this. 1st it has a horrible spacing and 2nd it's very hard to read. +1 This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. I don’t think so because it’s common in magazines but TeX isn’t the best tool for this. Mostly in magazines the layout comes first and the readability second, that's why magazines can't be a measure for a readable layout. Best example is variable inter-character spacing. • http://www.wyssdesign.com/Wyss_Design_Images/Bookprojects/Wyss_Design_Success_Spread1.jpg • http://www.twopeaspublishing.com/assets/sample_pullquote.jpg These both pull quotes are not centred. No but the look better and disturb you (or at least me) while reading. • http://homeforprofits.com/wp-content/uploads/wikipedia-pullquote.png • http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-2897250-31035/Picture+32.png This looks fine, it's common this way. But it only works in a two-column layout. I assumed we're talking about one column layouts. Yes, for more columns use always the full width, even spanned columns are possible but i won’t use shaped text. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
Am 28.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb mathew: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: As do now know what you want here is a solution from me (MkIV only): Could you comment on the advantages of your solution, given its greater complexity? It gives you more flexibility but my first goal was to get rid of the \placepullquote command in the text. Another reason why i used \defineannotation is that it creates i environment where you can pass the argument to another command. I could have written a shorter setup but i wanted the possibility to change the position of the quote (e.g. “location=left”) and you can also change the width and style of the text. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On 27-4-2011 7:49, mathew wrote: Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the best approach to take? I have no clue what pull quotes are. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
Am 27.04.2011 um 20:33 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 27-4-2011 7:49, mathew wrote: Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the best approach to take? I have no clue what pull quotes are. http://tinyurl.com/44875mo Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
2011/4/27 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the best approach to take? I have no clue what pull quotes are. http://tinyurl.com/44875mo That is something what I would like to do also. I had asked about it, but because I did not know the correct term, I did not get an answer. Hopefully it is possible. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On Wed 27 Apr 2011, mathew wrote: Has anyone implemented pull quotes using ConTeXt? What would be the best approach to take? Why not just put it in a float? Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
