Re: [NTSysADM] Anyone have a trick for ZIP's

2013-08-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Because consumer removable media has a known poor stored shelf-life and no fault tolerance? -- Espi On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@kj.net.au wrote: I’m curious to understand why that would change anything. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** --

[NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Pierre-Marie Camilleri
Hi all Is anyone using Veeam or Altaro for performing backups and restores of VMs? Would appreciate any feedback, good and bad regarding these products. Thanks Pierre

[NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Haritwal, Dhiraj
Hi Pierre, Sorry for hijacking this thread. Does anybody using Windows server backup for backups/restores of VMs like to share their experience. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958662 Dhiraj From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of

RE: [NTSysADM] Anyone have a trick for ZIP's

2013-08-06 Thread Ken Schaefer
And if your acceptable rate of loss is 1%, and 1% of these devices die in 2 years, what's the point of replacing them all in 5 years? Answer: pretty pointless. The point: 5 years is an arbitrary line in the sand that it seems IT people are drawing regardless of business need Futhermore: your

Re: [NTSysADM] Anyone have a trick for ZIP's

2013-08-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Its certainly an interesting exercise to dissect whatever else you want to throw in the mix to make some arbitrary point - but please recall that this discussion started with Zip disks. Making points for enterprise policy and storage requirements is great, but I dont understand why its being used

RE: [NTSysADM] Anyone have a trick for ZIP's

2013-08-06 Thread Ken Schaefer
So, this is what Kurt said (emphasis added) Perhaps the lesson to take from it is that any media older than 5 years should be destroyed... Well, maybe that, and copy any data off to new media. And this is what you said (emphasis added): My assumption would be that this was

Re: [NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Matt Hawes
I use Veeam and I love it. Very reliable and my favorite part is the virtual labs where I can test my vm's in an isolated environment. Sent from my iPhone Sent from Exchange 2013 On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Pierre-Marie Camilleri pmcamill...@laferla.com.mtmailto:pmcamill...@laferla.com.mt

RE: [NTSysADM] Weird?

2013-08-06 Thread David McSpadden
That is what I am finding. Will not be default wsus'ing again at other LAN's. Will be rebuilding this one just to be certain nothing is hanging around. Thanks again. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, August

RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Seeing as how you are obviously referring to me, allow me to ask: Given that I responded to your _SPECIFIC_ point about this being a MTIM attack (quoted below for you convenience), why your subsequent dismissive response? -sc (quotation follows) The resulting exposed data in a

Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread William Robbins
Hey Lora, I have a side bet going that you can help me with if you please. Are you really -sc? - WJR On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Lora Cates lora.ca...@rocketmail.comwrote: I find it interesting that there are several folks, myself included, that fail to see your point, yet when

Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
My point was to what data was remotely accessible. -- Espi On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Seeing as how you are obviously referring to me, allow me to ask: ** ** Given that I responded to your _*SPECIFIC*_ point about this being a MTIM

RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread Steven M. Caesare
And as pointed out, that's not the only risk for which like data is remotely accessible. Thus responses (from multiple people_ regarding odds are as applicable to your scenario as others. It's a germane point. Yet you simply dismiss it rather than discussing on its merits. Thus my

Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread William Robbins
Apparently my attempt at humor was poorly timed. (again) My apologies. Carry on with your regular duties. - WJR On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Lora, I have a side bet going that you can help me with if you please. Are you really -sc?

[NTSysADM] Virtual virgin

2013-08-06 Thread David McSpadden
Looking at a VNX5300 from EMC with a bunch of stuff going with it. For a 70GB Exchange 2010 server. 1 300GB SQL 2012 server. And 16 IIS 7.0 application servers. Think that VNX5300 should be good enough. Sales people from two companies basically selling same product are coming up with the same

Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack

2013-08-06 Thread Lora Cates
I figured poor timing was your regular duty.   -lc From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack Apparently my attempt at humor was

[NTSysADM] RE: Virtual virgin

2013-08-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
What is your total I/O requirement and will it be properly configured to provide that, plus growth room? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:22 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject:

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Virtual virgin

2013-08-06 Thread David McSpadden
I am still getting 6 additional servers iops but we are supposed to have 30% growth. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:34 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE:

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Jon Harris
Under 2008 it worked had it running at night full backups not typical but for the setup I was doing this on it was the best option. VM's were up and running on the host backed up the entire host. Jon From: dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE:

Re: [NTSysADM] Anyone have a trick for ZIP's

2013-08-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Just think of all you'll have to discuss in your private discussion group. Enjoy! On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: My irony meter just assploded. -- Espi

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Under 2008 it worked had it running at night full backups not typical but for the setup I was doing this on it was the best option. VM's were up and running on the host backed up the entire host. FYI, Microsoft's official

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?

2013-08-06 Thread Jon Harris
I agree not scalable but it functioned/worked. The only server I never restored was the virtual DC all the others in this instance restored and functioned. Client refused to purchase a better system. Client had dedicated hardware for the primary DC. It was backed up separately. Jon