RE: [NTSysADM] Remote Control
I used to use Crossloop a few years ago, but I suspect it has fallen out of favor with the plethora of capable alternatives From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Curt Finley Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:33 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] Remote Control I've been using LogMeIn to remotely assist users. However the free license now supports a limited number of computers. Can you suggest a tool similar to logmenin to remote control computers? The system must be able to connect to systems behind a firewall on a remote LAN. Free or cheap (but good) is preferable. Thanks for your help. Curt
[NTSysADM] VSS patches
I can't remember which mailing list it came up on, so sorry for the cross-post but there was a recent discussion about VSS issues. Here was a recently released hotfix (31 May) that fixes some VSS and cluster issues on Server 2012. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2838669
[Exchange] VSS patches
I can't remember which mailing list it came up on, so sorry for the cross-post but there was a recent discussion about VSS issues. Here was a recently released hotfix (31 May) that fixes some VSS and cluster issues on Server 2012. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2838669
Re: [NTSysADM] Remote Control
For on-demand support TeamViewer is my hands-down favorite for remote support but is a bit pricey even for work. I make frequent use of www.join.me (also from LogMeIn folks) for my remote users who are out of the office. A few years back I was very happy with RAdmin: http://www.radmin.com/ It works great for servers and other devices you need to monitor from time to time. Roger Wright ___ You can't believe most of the quotes you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: I used to use Crossloop a few years ago, but I suspect it has fallen out of favor with the plethora of capable alternatives ** ** *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Curt Finley *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:33 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Remote Control ** ** I’ve been using LogMeIn to remotely assist users. However the free license now supports a limited number of computers. Can you suggest a tool similar to logmenin to remote control computers? The system must be able to connect to systems behind a firewall on a remote LAN. Free or cheap (but good) is preferable. Thanks for your help. ** ** Curt
[NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management
Looking at it now! THX From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:11 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management Kaseya works well but it is Another company I work with is evaluating GFI Max: http://www.gfimax.com/, and the feedback so far is positive. They have a 30 day trial. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:17 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] MSP client management To the MSP's out there, what do you use to mange your client's workstations/servers in regards to software updates, inventory, monitoring etc? I've been looking at Kaseya but curious what others are using. Thanks, Jimmy
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
+1 on the Cuda. Been running them for 10 years. Not sure on the dist list quarantine. But you can get a free demo unit/vm from them and their support is top notch. They will tell you how that part of it works. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
I have one client that we bought a fortigate email appliance for. They seem happy with it. I basically set it up and forget about it unless someone calls me and wants me to resend a quarantine email to them that they deleted. One thing to consider is complexity. It is exponentially more complex that the Sonicwall. For a simple setup, the wizard will work to get it going for you...but it is so very configurable and complex because it runs the same software that you would use if you were running an ISP spam solution. Bill From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
The lower end barracuda boxes don't do individual user quarantines, do they? I know you used to have to step up to the 400 maybe? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:44 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? +1 on the Cuda. Been running them for 10 years. Not sure on the dist list quarantine. But you can get a free demo unit/vm from them and their support is top notch. They will tell you how that part of it works. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
300 and up https://www.barracuda.com/products/spamandvirusfirewall/models From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Humphries Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:57 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The lower end barracuda boxes don't do individual user quarantines, do they? I know you used to have to step up to the 400 maybe? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:44 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? +1 on the Cuda. Been running them for 10 years. Not sure on the dist list quarantine. But you can get a free demo unit/vm from them and their support is top notch. They will tell you how that part of it works. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
RE: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management
As an ex-GFI person, I would take a hard look at GFI Max. It's not the most full-featured, but I am very familiar with the team there (it's a semi-autonomous group within GFI) and they are an exceptional group of people. Solid product, well-priced with good support. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:32 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management Looking at it now! THX From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:11 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management Kaseya works well but it is Another company I work with is evaluating GFI Max: http://www.gfimax.com/, and the feedback so far is positive. They have a 30 day trial. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com mailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:17 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] MSP client management To the MSP's out there, what do you use to mange your client's workstations/servers in regards to software updates, inventory, monitoring etc? I've been looking at Kaseya but curious what others are using. Thanks, Jimmy
RE: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management
Windows Intune? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:11 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: MSP client management Kaseya works well but it is Another company I work with is evaluating GFI Max: http://www.gfimax.com/, and the feedback so far is positive. They have a 30 day trial. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com mailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:17 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] MSP client management To the MSP's out there, what do you use to mange your client's workstations/servers in regards to software updates, inventory, monitoring etc? I've been looking at Kaseya but curious what others are using. Thanks, Jimmy
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
[NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
Also, they only sell through resellers...who will cut you some slack. Shop around. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:23 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola From: p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I’ve been running Barracuda’s appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don’t allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it’s pretty dead on. Every week or so I’ll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man™ would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com
cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK Which does bring up a question I've been meaning to ask. For a home user (or very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don't seem to deal direct anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway). It's only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I have an issues with the home mailserver. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola From: p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
Re: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
MessageLabs does have a quarantine function, but I'm not sure of the costs... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@kj.net.au wrote: No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK ** ** Which does bring up a question I’ve been meaning to ask. For a home user (or very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don’t seem to deal direct anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway). ** ** It’s only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I have an issues with the home mailserver. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P *Sent:* Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? ** ** Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola -- From: p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Brutsche *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *N Parr *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM *To:* 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I’ve been running Barracuda’s appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don’t allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it’s pretty dead on. Every week or so I’ll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Brutsche *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man™ would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster* *** * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com
RE: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
Why not just look at moving them to office 365 for 4 bucks a mailbox and have MS do the antispam? Any cloud spam service will cost almost that much. Bill From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:06 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK Which does bring up a question I've been meaning to ask. For a home user (or very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don't seem to deal direct anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway). It's only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I have an issues with the home mailserver. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola From: p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to the quarantine folder for distribution groups -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com
RE: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
This is for my home infrastructure. Office 365 isn't sold/supported directly by Microsoft here in Australia which diminishes the allure, and in any case, I find it helpful to have a level of hands on with product (since moving into architecture a few years ago, it's hard to get that during the day) Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Humphries Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 1:39 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Why not just look at moving them to office 365 for 4 bucks a mailbox and have MS do the antispam? Any cloud spam service will cost almost that much. Bill From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:06 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK Which does bring up a question I've been meaning to ask. For a home user (or very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don't seem to deal direct anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway). It's only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I have an issues with the home mailserver. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola From: p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual
RE: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
http://www.symanteccloud.com/en/au/services/communication-security/email_antispam.aspx says Service Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request. Please try again later. Reference #6.157a84ce.1371184238.7c86e9 Seems that putting cloud in your domain name doesn't actually do anything cloud-wise :) Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 1:11 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: cloud spam filtering WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? MessageLabs does have a quarantine function, but I'm not sure of the costs... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@kj.net.aumailto:k...@kj.net.au wrote: No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK Which does bring up a question I've been meaning to ask. For a home user (or very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don't seem to deal direct anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway). It's only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I have an issues with the home mailserver. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-gateway/ Jean-Paul Natola From: p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 + Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam Virus Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD. That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the options since I last looked 3-4 months ago. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? The Barracuda Networks VMs are $ - $3k USD or so for the VM. For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.commailto:p...@optimumdata.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of N Parr Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it does everything you require. But I don't allow user access to quarantine. I set it in global mode and generally forget about it. Once you get it tuned right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on. Every week or so I'll take a look at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught. I guess you could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback? We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives. One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail Email Security Appliance. Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback you would like to share? In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements: * LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support that!) * Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster * Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific
