Re: Win 7 Price

2009-09-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker
It's not just about size, it's also about the mix of products that you use. We have less people than you (about 60), but more servers (over 150 right now), and use a mix of Microsoft products including SQL and Exchange. This gives us a lot of points for negotiating, even at our size. SA gives

Re: Win 7 Price

2009-09-12 Thread Steven Peck
[mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 7 Price On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them  up front

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Hoffman
Not sure about the dollar rate, but without existing software assurance it can be expensive. The was an offer to add SA to existing machines bought in the last 6 months but that ended last month. In effect you are buying a new full license for the software, so you might want to get a financed

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Sam Cayze
just upgraded my home machine to 7 for $50. I have a hard time grasping the fact they are going to charge businesses 400% MORE! From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread John Cook
SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price But I just

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Terry Dickson
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price But I just paid for all new system that shipped with Vista Business :( I would think the upgrade would be cheaper. Alright, what's the point of SA when they release an OS every 3 years or so? Or is that like asking what's the meaning of life

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Sam Cayze
I got these a couple month's ago before the coupons. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price We just got in some new systems last month and they came

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
software package I am running. I'm just legal. It really is awesome. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price I got these a couple month's ago before the coupons

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Sam Cayze
] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price The pricing that you are now running into is exactly why SA exists. If you had purchased SA on the licenses originally you wouldn't be worrying about your upgrade cost now, you could just do it. For me

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
is higher now. :) Tim From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price Ok, I guess I would have to see the SA renewal rates. Would I have saved money if we bought XP with SA back in 2001 (Which it turns out we

Re: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: But I just paid for all new system that shipped with Vista Business :(  I would think the upgrade would be cheaper. You'd think so, but you'd be wrong. Despite the fact that Volume Licenses are Upgrade Only, they cost

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Sam Cayze
PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price It depends on a number of factors. Like how often you upgrade and what products you use. But if you saved money by not going with SA originally, then you shouldn't be complaining about how high the price is now. You should be cheering about

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Sam Cayze
Good info, thanks. Are there SKU's for 7 that DON'T include SA? Or is SA included no matter what? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 7 Price On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
, September 11, 2009 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price I wish I knew that answer :) I don't know if we saved money by not renewing SA. (I was not in charge of that decision). Is there a flat rate on what SA renewals are? From: Tim

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
: Win 7 Price On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: But I just paid for all new system that shipped with Vista Business :(  I would think the upgrade would be cheaper. You'd think so, but you'd be wrong. Despite the fact that Volume Licenses are Upgrade Only

Re: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them  up front for Licenses and SA. How big do you have to be before MSFT starts to care? When I checked a few years ago, for

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
, September 11, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 7 Price On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them  up front for Licenses and SA. How big do you

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Hoffman
into that plan. Mike -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: 11 September 2009 10:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price The official number I came up with after months of research was 192 licenses being the breakeven point where

RE: Win 7 Price

2009-09-11 Thread Brian Desmond
, 2009 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 7 Price On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them up front for Licenses and SA. How big do you have