Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-15 Thread Jon Harris
-Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? Silly after question Stu, does Vipre's current definition set catch

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I have to disagree. The price of free is not worth the suckfest that you operate under the false-sense of security with. I've repaired enough compromised systems to validate the free price tag of anything. NOD32 and Spybot Search and Destroy (with TeaTimer running) FTW. If you are only going

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Carl Houseman
things detected, so it's not 100% placebo. Maybe only 99%. ;) Carl -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? I

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Durf
% placebo. Maybe only 99%. ;) Carl -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? I have to disagree. The price

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? AVG 8 is a pig if you turn on all the features though, especially the Link Inspector. Whatever you use, remember to leave UAC turned on and the users running as non-admin. :) -- Durf On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Phil Brutsche
No, just practicing good security habits that date back to the days of multi-user minicomputers (VAX and the like). If everyone did that 99.9% of the malware problems some of us see become a thing of the past. Christopher J. Bosak wrote: Oh, your evil. -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Peter van Houten
dangerous malware in the past few months. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? I have

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? Silly after question Stu, does Vipre's current definition set catch the Antivirus 2008 malwares? -troy -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Durf
-Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? Silly after question Stu, does Vipre's current definition set catch the Antivirus 2008

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-14 Thread Kurt Buff
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? AVG 8 is a pig if you turn on all the features though, especially the Link Inspector. Whatever you use, remember to leave UAC

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread RichardMcClary
VIPRE does AV, AntiSpyware, replaces Defender, and helps keeps our sponsor in business. -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Reimer, Mark [EMAIL

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
High praise for NOD32 here (until I get my hands on VIPRE). Never trusted Defender, never will. Just gives me a really bad feeling. Just my $0.02 Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. -

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Sam Cayze
Defender sucks and blows at the same time. I'd get something else, like, um CounterSpy Enterprise! From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
and wont be renewing... jlc From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? High praise for NOD32 here (until I get my hands on VIPRE). Never trusted

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 14:25 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? Defender sucks and blows at the same time. I'd get something else, like, um CounterSpy Enterprise

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Bill Lambert
I used Defender on my network for about 8 months. I don't believe it caught a single instance of malware on any machine. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows

Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Phil Brutsche
2 things: a) Two words: downgrade rights. Dell gives you the option to have XP pre-installed on machines with a Vista Business license, and if you buy a HP business-class desktop with Vista Business they give you re-install media *and* driver CDs for both. b) Defender is a POS. The same can be

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Murray Freeman
Well, I've been using Defender for some time, and it's NEVER reported that it found anything, so I have no idea if it's of any benefit, but the price is right. So I continue to use it in conjunction with other anti-CRAP software. On the other hand, the other software reports things, but at least

RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution?

2008-08-13 Thread Troy Meyer
advocate for you -troy -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware solution? 2 things: a) Two words: downgrade rights. Dell gives you