Re: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Steve Ens
llection. Had an engineer I worked with who tried > to run it on an IBM 8088...LOL > > -Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:13 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF

RE: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Free, Bob
, 2009 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT No... sorry, now that I think about it, I think it was Windows 386. :-) Prior to Windows 3.1 or 3.11. :-) It was actually even more primitive than Windows 3.1. :-) -Original Message

RE: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread John Aldrich
: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FOREIGN: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Windows 3.5?? Or WinNT 3.5? -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Windows 3.5?? Or WinNT 3.5? -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Well, you guys have me beat: I didn't get a computer until I was in college. I

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Geos FTW! -sc -Original Message- From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ti-994a..Thats how we rolled back then. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Steven M. Caesare
ernational.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:45 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT > > Ahh, backing up

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Lee Douglas
ctor - CompTIA A+ Certified* > > Aurico Reports, Inc > > Phone: 847-890-40 ┬ а а Fax: 847-255-1896 > > ccoo...@aurico.com > > > > *From:* Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:28 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subjec

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread John Aldrich
nd Windows 3.5. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT HP 85 with a tape drive, followed by HP 250 and then a big step up to a

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread John Hornbuckle
M To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I do not miss tape loaders. I had a C64 with a tape drive (ARG!). Saved money from my paper route and bought a floppy drive. I so wanted a C128 but never got it. Eventually I got an Amiga 1000. TRS80s (floppy d

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Cameron Cooper
ril 29, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Do you remember the DX-64? Was the SX-64 but with two floppy drives. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Cameron Cooper wrote: Oh the good ol days of the Commodore 64 and

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
IA A+ Certified* > > Aurico Reports, Inc > > Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 > > ccoo...@aurico.com > > > > *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:51 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subjec

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-04-29 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
RS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ti-994a..Thats how we rolled back then. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I miss Commodore. But don't get

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Jonathan Link
tified > Aurico Reports, Inc > Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 > ccoo...@aurico.com > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:54 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPU

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-29 Thread Cameron Cooper
Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I do not miss tape loaders. I had a C64 with a tape drive (ARG!). Saved money from my paper route and bought a floppy drive. I so wanted a C12

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Steven Peck
onal.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:45 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT > > Ahh, backing up to 25 x 5 ¼'s

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Gene Giannamore
45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ahh, backing up to 25 x 5 ¼'s using xcopy in Dos 6.22 That was a step up from reel to reel. I bet it was more fun to watch them spin though.. Greg From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.

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2009-04-28 Thread David Lum
51? :) True geeks chewed on tubes that used to be in radios, TV's etc :-P Dave From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT As usual, these discussions go off

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread David Lum
he sold the computer that's in the Hubble Space Telescope. Sean Rector, MCSE From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ti-994a..Thats how we r

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Vicky Spelshaus
t;> >> -- >> *From:* Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:46 PM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT >> >>Oh man…pri

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Ens
> guys guess my age! LOL > > > *Murray* > > > -- > *From:* Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:46 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT > > Oh man…prior to Interda

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Murray Freeman
sday, April 28, 2009 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Oh man...prior to Interdata, he was at DG - at that time, he was designing the boards being put in them. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread gsweers
omputer that's in the Hubble Space Telescope. Sean Rector, MCSE From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ti-994a..Thats how we r

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Sean Rector
ble Space Telescope. Sean Rector, MCSE From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Ti-994a..Thats how we rolled back then. Fr

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread John Hornbuckle
Bah. I traded up to a C-128. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Oh the good ol days of the Commodore 64 and SX-64. _ Cameron

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Cameron Cooper
ornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I miss Commodore. But don't get me started down Memory Lane... From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Tuesday, Apr

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread John Hornbuckle
I miss Commodore. But don't get me started down Memory Lane... From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Although... back in the day Amigas were the tool of c

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
one: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 > > ccoo...@aurico.com > > > > *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:01 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT >

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Cameron Cooper
buckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Not to my knowledge, but I'm open to correction. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North C

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Cameron Cooper
ccoo...@aurico.com <mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Not to my knowledge, but I'm open to

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Devin Meade
On that note, when this was brought up in my firm, I gathered up some info on Apple certification and training. IIRC, I mentioned that if we are to start supporting Mac's, lets to it properly, just like we do with Windows (and AutoCAD, and Vmware, and whatever). That means training, training, and

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Jon Harris wrote: > Not from what my Windows person is finding.  He is producing the same level > of work as a professional that we pay for.  The biggest difference is in the > training. I think that's actually the case for both users and admins. If one has mos

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread John Hornbuckle
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT That's what we're doing here. We've managed to negotiate some better pricing to reduce the "Apple tax,"

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread John Hornbuckle
stem Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I will take a one piece iMac over a PC system any day BUT running Vista. If I have the budget I would buy everyone an iMac and run Vista. I wish PC vendors start making one piece unit like Apple. Too many damn wires man! (Sp

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2009-04-28 Thread Vue, Za
speakers. -Z.V. From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT The machines aren't any better, but it appears the graphics users like Macs more. When a Mac fails, they

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Holstrom, Don
nday, April 27, 2009 7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I've heard in the past that Macs were superior for Graphic Design, Video editing, etc., but is that really the case anymore? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint secu

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Jon Harris
rict > > 318 North Clark Street > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 7:28 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re:

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread John Hornbuckle
7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT I've heard in the past that Macs were superior for Graphic Design, Video editing, etc., but is that really the case anymore? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a re

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Jonathan Link
Sounds like some user education is in order. Next time a snide comment is made, give them a chart that shows their use of support compared to the rest of the Windows group. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > It has been our experience that while the technical issues of MAC'

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Jon Harris
re are tools > that clean up those files in the Mac and the Windows side (in the case you > have a Samba server. > > Miguel > > > --- El mar, 28/4/09, Jon Harris escribió: > > > De: Jon Harris > > Asunto: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT > > P

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2009-04-28 Thread Jon Harris
I will add one additional fact. Our Mac has spent on average at least 2 days a year in service with another 2 days per year on either side of that having issues, either hardware or software. All of the Windows Desktops and Laptops combined have only 4 days in the shop for issues, with most of tho

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Miguel Gonzalez
About the famous . files that normally screw backups up, there are tools that clean up those files in the Mac and the Windows side (in the case you have a Samba server. Miguel --- El mar, 28/4/09, Jon Harris escribió: > De: Jon Harris > Asunto: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN W

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-28 Thread Jon Harris
Agreed they are a pain. They also like to leave files around that make backups fail (or appear to fail). I took to leaving the files in place and put specific deny write on the Mac user in my environment. Mac users are also a pain to deal with as they usaully whine that it is so much easier on a

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Ben Schorr
ficer __ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRO

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Sean Martin
We support Macs for our Marketing department. I don't believe we deal with too many issues, but that's probably because most of their productivity applications are delivered via Citrix. We use ExtremeZ-IP from Group Logics to handle file sharing from a Windows 2003 server. I guess I would put the

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Gene Giannamore
Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT It has been our experience that while the technical issues of MAC's can be resolved, most issues come from the MAC

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Steven Peck
It has been our experience that while the technical issues of MAC's can be resolved, most issues come from the MAC users themselves. Having got themselves a little exception to the overall IT policy, they will often refuse to play nice with things like storing files on network shares which are back

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Michael White
As has been mentioned, Entourage is the semi-equivalent to Outlook for Exchange connectivity. Snow Leopard is supposed to have increased integration with an Exchange environment natively. In what ways are you having concerns about Macs interacting w/your network? Michael. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Jonathan Link
I use VMWare Fusion with a license of WindowsXP on my MacBook Pro, and can launch the windows version of Outlook for the full integrated email experience. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Murray Freeman wrote: > I'm being asked to investigate the use of a few MAC's in our network. I > know th

RE: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Ben Schorr
2009 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT Macs are a pain. Not only do I have about 2 dozen of them on my network, I've got a stupid Mac Server also. Macs use Entourage for interaction with Exchange (OWA), it's not perfect, there

Re: USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Macs are a pain. Not only do I have about 2 dozen of them on my network, I've got a stupid Mac Server also. Macs use Entourage for interaction with Exchange (OWA), it's not perfect, there are issues, and it's on the Mac side. Not any issues with having them on your network, I just don't like Mac

USE OF MAC COMPUTERS IN WINDOWS ENVIRONMENT

2009-04-27 Thread Murray Freeman
I'm being asked to investigate the use of a few MAC's in our network. I know that it would be only used by a few of our staff for graphics and a few other apps. I'm concerned about the ability of a MAC to interface into our network and Exchange Server email.Obviously we would purchase new machines,