Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

2012-03-30 Thread Peter Pearson

On 30/03/12 00:50, Frank Rueter wrote:

yes, unfortunately this is very common and I stopped using clones for
this very reason years ago.
It's a shame it hasn't been fixed.


We can't reproduce this one - we know about it, but until we can 
reproduce it, it's very difficult to fix.


If you've got a script where it's consistent to reproduce (I'm assuming 
it's temperamental and random though, so probably not that easy), please 
send it in to support.


Thanks,
Peter
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Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

2012-03-30 Thread chris
i can see that it's very difficult to fix something if you can't 
track down how it happens, but... doesn't the bug render the 
current implementation pretty useless? i mean, is anybody still 
using clones in real production and risks getting bitten by this?


for those who are not aware of it, a possible workaround is to 
use the shakestyleclone script instead.. on nukepedia:

http://www.nukepedia.com/python-scripts/nodegraph/nshakeclone/

i tried to assemble all of the latest sugestions in the comments 
into a new version without messing things up.. still seems to 
work ;)

http://pastebin.com/JFaVgyX8

how about adding something like this to the default install of 
nuke instead of the old clones?
actually i even it to true clones in some ways (for example you 
can choose to keep certain parameters unlinked).


++ chris


On 3/30/12 at 10:40 AM, pe...@thefoundry.co.uk (Peter Pearson) wrote:


On 30/03/12 00:50, Frank Rueter wrote:

yes, unfortunately this is very common and I stopped
using clones for
this very reason years ago. It's a shame it hasn't been
fixed.


We can't reproduce this one - we know about it, but until
we can reproduce it, it's very difficult to fix.

If you've got a script where it's consistent to reproduce
(I'm assuming it's temperamental and random though, so
probably not that easy), please send it in to support.

Thanks,
Peter


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Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

2012-03-30 Thread Howard Jones
I use clones all the time and very rarely get bitten but 

1) I know how to fix the script
2) I'm aware of the bug so I am careful about how I delete clones which I think 
is the heart of the problem

I use the  'shakeClone' with a couple of modifications less often - mainly when 
I want to break a link.
(I renamed it 'expressionClone' here as that is almost what it is, and not 
everyone these days has used shake, and added labelling so you knew which is 
the master/clone node(s) without having the expression links on)


Obviously a fix is desirable but I certainly wouldn't want to lose the current 
not quite perfect clone function

 
Howard




 From: chris ze.m...@gmx.net
To: Nuke user discussion nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk 
Sent: Friday, 30 March 2012, 12:33
Subject: Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error
 
i can see that it's very difficult to fix something if you can't 
track down how it happens, but... doesn't the bug render the 
current implementation pretty useless? i mean, is anybody still 
using clones in real production and risks getting bitten by this?

for those who are not aware of it, a possible workaround is to 
use the shakestyleclone script instead.. on nukepedia:
http://www.nukepedia.com/python-scripts/nodegraph/nshakeclone/

i tried to assemble all of the latest sugestions in the comments 
into a new version without messing things up.. still seems to 
work ;)
http://pastebin.com/JFaVgyX8

how about adding something like this to the default install of 
nuke instead of the old clones?
actually i even it to true clones in some ways (for example you 
can choose to keep certain parameters unlinked).

++ chris


On 3/30/12 at 10:40 AM, pe...@thefoundry.co.uk (Peter Pearson) wrote:

On 30/03/12 00:50, Frank Rueter wrote:
yes, unfortunately this is very common and I stopped
using clones for
this very reason years ago. It's a shame it hasn't been
fixed.

We can't reproduce this one - we know about it, but until
we can reproduce it, it's very difficult to fix.

If you've got a script where it's consistent to reproduce
(I'm assuming it's temperamental and random though, so
probably not that easy), please send it in to support.

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

2012-03-30 Thread Nathan Rusch
Well, it’s not so much a matter of getting ahold of scripts with corrupt 
clones... it’s a matter of being able to reproduce the clone corruption in the 
first place to track it down. Once the nodes have been written to the Nuke 
script, there isn’t a whole lot you can deduce, since the corruption seems to 
stem from an issue in the writing process itself (albeit not a particularly 
consistent one).

-Nathan



From: chuckie7413 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:29 PM
To: nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk 
Subject: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

Hi Peter,

We have a script that crashes every time we try to open it so can send you 
that. 

I think what might have made it go crazy was because we had clones of clones. 

We have been able to salvage a lot of the work though thanks to Nathan's 
suggestion of editing the script in a text editor. 

Thanks,

Richard



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Re: [Nuke-users] Re: nuke script error

2012-03-29 Thread Frank Rueter
yes, unfortunately this is very common and I stopped using clones for 
this very reason years ago.

It's a shame it hasn't been fixed.


On 3/30/12 12:15 PM, chuckie7413 wrote:

Hi Nathan,

Yeah there are a few cloned nodes in the script. Will take a look at 
the script in a text editor and look for anything like that.


Is this very common then when using cloned nodes? Should we avoid it?

Thanks a lot.

Best,

Richard


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