Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-09 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... In scikit-image we use the following script to check for the most basic discrepancies:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-06 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05.07.2014 18:40, David

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained What exactly is not maintained ? David ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained What exactly is not maintained ? The issue is that Julian

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Julian Taylor
On 05.07.2014 11:02, Ralf Gommers wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com mailto:courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com mailto:ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Matthew Brett
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: Maybe bento will revive and take over the new python packaging world! Maybe not. Maybe something else will. I don't see how our support for it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've noticed that a lot of the related distutils code is broken, and does not work as expected on at least OS X +

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Julian Taylor
On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've noticed that a lot of the related distutils code is broken,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... Also, while adding the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 05.07.2014 18:40, David

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 7/5/2014 6:42 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: What next, we give Alan Isaac commit rights and then it's OK to break numpy.matrix when that's convenient? I always wondered what I would do with commit rights ... Alan ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Bryan Van de Ven
Speaking as someone who started but then stopped dabbling in the NumPy C core, having to think about two build system is a huge turn-off. Getting into the NumPy C code is hard enough without having to worry about multiple build systems. Bryan On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Ralf Gommers

[Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-04 Thread Charles R Harris
Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained and does not properly build numpy with all the optimizations added by Julian. I find the usual setup.py method fast enough and it has the advantage that all the numpy developers can deal with it. Thoughts? Chuck