Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-15 Thread David Warde-Farley
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Time to raise this topic again. Opinions welcome. As you know from the pull request discussion, big +1 from me too. I'm also of the opinion with David C. and Brad that dropping 2.5 support would be a good thing

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-14 Thread Sturla Molden
So when upgrading everything you prefer to keep the bugs in 2.6 that were squashed in 2.7? Who has taught IT managers that older and more buggy versions of software are more professional and better for corporate environments? Sturla Den 14. des. 2012 kl. 05:14 skrev Raul Cota

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-14 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On 14 Dec 2012 04:14, Raul Cota r...@virtualmaterials.com wrote: +1 from me For what is worth, we are just moving forward from Python 2.2 / Numeric and are going to 2.6 and it has been rather painful because of the several little details of extensions and other subtleties. I believe we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-14 Thread Raul Cota
Point well taken. It is always a tradeoff / balancing act where you can have 'anything' but not 'everything'. Where would the fun be if we could have everything :) ? . In our situation, there were a couple of extensions that did not work (at least out of the box) in Python 2.7. Raul On

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Travis Oliphant
A big +1 from me --- but I don't have anyone I know using 2.4 anymore -Travis On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: Time to raise this topic again. Opinions welcome. Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Benjamin Root
As a point of reference, python 2.4 is on RH5/CentOS5. While RH6 is the current version, there are still enterprises that are using version 5. Of course, at this point, one really should be working on a migration plan and shouldn't be doing new development on those machines... Ben Root

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Anthony Scopatz
+1, if someone wants to use an older version of Python they can use an older version of numpy. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Travis Oliphant tra...@continuum.iowrote: A big +1 from me --- but I don't have anyone I know using 2.4 anymore -Travis On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:34 AM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Time to raise this topic again. Opinions welcome. I am ok if 1.7 is the LTS. I would even go as far as dropping 2.5 as well then (RHEL 6 uses python 2.6). cheers, David

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Skipper Seabold
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: snip I would even go as far as dropping 2.5 as well then (RHEL 6 uses python 2.6). +1 Skipper ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Sturla Molden
Yes, and ditto for SciPy. With dropped 2.4 support we can also use the new memoryview syntax instead of ndarray syntax in Cython. That is more important for SciPy, but it has some relevance for NumPy too. Sturla Sendt fra min iPad Den 13. des. 2012 kl. 17:34 skrev Charles R Harris

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Bradley M. Froehle
Targeting = 2.6 would be preferable to me. Several other packages including IPython, support only Python = 2.6, = 3.2. This change would help me from accidentally writing Python syntax which is allowable in 2.6 2.7 (but not in 2.4 or 2.5). Compiling a newer Python interpreter isn't very

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Charles R Harris
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Bradley M. Froehle brad.froe...@gmail.com wrote: Targeting = 2.6 would be preferable to me. Several other packages including IPython, support only Python = 2.6, = 3.2. This change would help me from accidentally writing Python syntax which is allowable in

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Jonathan T. Niehof
On 12/13/2012 09:39 AM, Benjamin Root wrote: As a point of reference, python 2.4 is on RH5/CentOS5. While RH6 is the current version, there are still enterprises that are using version 5. Of course, at this point, one really should be working on a migration plan and shouldn't be doing new

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Bradley M. Froehle brad.froe...@gmail.com wrote: Targeting = 2.6 would be preferable to me. Several other packages including IPython, support only Python = 2.6, = 3.2.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposal to drop python 2.4 support in numpy 1.8

2012-12-13 Thread Raul Cota
+1 from me For what is worth, we are just moving forward from Python 2.2 / Numeric and are going to 2.6 and it has been rather painful because of the several little details of extensions and other subtleties. I believe we will settle there for a while. For companies like ours, it is a big