Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-24 Thread Tom Herbert
implementation. Best regards, Mach -Original Message- From: Deepak Kumar (dekumar) [mailto:deku...@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:34 PM To: Mach Chen; Tom Herbert Cc: nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Mach

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-20 Thread Mach Chen
Hi Tom, Please see my response inline... -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:28 AM To: Mach Chen Cc: nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-20 Thread Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Tissa, Thanks for your response! Please see my response inline... -Original Message- From: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-20 Thread Greg Mirsky
(tsenevir) Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:45 PM To: Haoweiguo; Tom Herbert Cc: Greg Mirsky; Tapraj Singh; Deepak Kumar (dekumar); nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Weiguo, Mach et,al The discussion here is NVO3 data

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-19 Thread Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
(dekumar); nvo3@ietf.org Subject: RE: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Tissa, Your solution is active OAM, i think it is a basic and important solution in whole OAM framework.The disccussed thread is about passive OAM. Both active and passive OAM have its pros/cons, both

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Mirsky
] On Behalf Of Tom Herbert Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:02 AM To: Marc Binderberger Cc: Greg Mirsky; Mach Chen; Deepak Kumar (dekumar); nvo3@ietf.org; Haoweiguo; Larry Kreeger (kreeger); Vero Zheng; Jon Hudson Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Mon, Nov 17

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
(kreeger); Vero Zheng; Jon Hudson Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Dear All, I would like to point that this discussion, though very interesting, may be premature. I believe that the WG should first agree on NVO3 OAM Requirements and conclude OAM gap

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
; Larry Kreeger Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Marc Binderberger m...@sniff.de wrote: Hello Mach, so for delay measurement you use the color flag to mark a single packet, which helps the receiver to pick

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Mirsky
Chen; Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Marc Binderberger m...@sniff.de wrote: Hello Mach, so for delay measurement you use the color flag to mark a single

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Mirsky
: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:11 AM To: Marc Binderberger

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Mirsky
) + Destination port 4784 for (multihop) (Note 1) Thanks Tapraj From: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:02 PM To: Tapraj Singh tsi...@juniper.net Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-18 Thread Tom Herbert
Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Tapraj, though I agree and support with idea of having OAM flag in NVO3 header I have to point to: absence of WG agreed upon OAM Requirements; no gap analysis of tools for NVO3 OAM; OAM flag does not help passive

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-17 Thread Greg Mirsky
@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:11 AM To: Marc

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-17 Thread Tom Herbert
Message- From: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Herbert Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:27 PM To: Mach Chen Cc: Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; Marc Binderberger; Larry Kreeger; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-17 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 11/14/14 12:26 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: I think if we were implementing delay measurement in GUE, I would advocate add a 64 bit optional field for timestamp, probably containing source time stamp, and echoed timestamp for a

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-16 Thread Marc Binderberger
; Haoweiguo; Marc Binderberger; Larry Kreeger; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-14 Thread Tom Herbert
Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Marc Binderberger m...@sniff.de wrote: Hello Mach, so for delay measurement you use the color flag to mark a single packet, which helps the receiver to pick the right packet? And repeat

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-14 Thread Jon Hudson
Cc: Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; Marc Binderberger; Larry Kreeger; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Vero Zheng
From: nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Mirsky Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:37 AM To: Marc Binderberger Cc: Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Marc, thank you for your thorough review

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Tom Herbert
Kreeger (kreeger) Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Dear All, agree with Weiguo, single bit flag in fixed position would be sufficient and HW-friendly. Regards, Greg On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Larry

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Mach Chen
Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:06 PM To: Mach Chen Cc: Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger (kreeger) Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Greg Mirsky
. Thanks, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Greg, I fully agree with you. The real time OAM

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Marc Binderberger
12, 2014 5:06 PM To: Mach Chen Cc: Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger (kreeger) Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Mach Chen mach.c...@huawei.com wrote: Hi Greg and all, Single bit

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Mach Chen
Hi Marc, -Original Message- From: Marc Binderberger [mailto:m...@sniff.de] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:11 PM To: Mach Chen Cc: Tom Herbert; Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hello

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-12 Thread Mach Chen
Hi Tom, -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert [mailto:therb...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:11 AM To: Marc Binderberger Cc: Mach Chen; Greg Mirsky; Haoweiguo; nvo3@ietf.org; Larry Kreeger Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

[nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Haoweiguo
Hi Greg, I fully agree with you. The real time OAM is passive performance measurement methods. I would like NVO3 data encapsulation has a field for marking and not affect forwarding of packets, the marking field is only used for performance measurement. The NVO3 packet with this marking flag

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Greg Mirsky
to fall into the category of optional extensions. Thanks, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Marc Binderberger
: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Greg, I fully agree with you. The real time OAM is passive performance measurement methods. I would like NVO3 data encapsulation has a field for marking and not affect forwarding of packets

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Greg Mirsky
into the category of optional extensions. Thanks, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Greg, I fully

[nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Haoweiguo
be a subset of that. Tom Thanks, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Greg, I fully

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Greg Mirsky
meed for congestion control and in fact might be a subset of that. Tom Thanks, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3

Re: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM

2014-11-11 Thread Tom Herbert
, Larry From: Haoweiguo haowei...@huawei.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:18 AM To: Greg Mirsky gregimir...@gmail.com Cc: nvo3@ietf.org nvo3@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] 答复: Comments on NVO3 data plane requirements for OAM Hi Greg, I fully agree with you. The real time OAM