RE: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info)

2020-02-13 Thread rcech
haibal Mitra Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:41 AM To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell edu Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info) Doug's message is important and deserves careful attention from all contributors to citizen science. People should tak

Re: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info)

2020-02-13 Thread TURNER
it was a shallow hole. > On February 13, 2020 at 8:32 AM Bob Grover wrote: > > > As I have been known to do, I am about to dig myself a hole here. This is > an interesting discussion. My only caution is that we must all recognize > ebird, as well as the CBC’s, and similar efforts, for w

RE: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info)

2020-02-13 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Doug's message is important and deserves careful attention from all contributors to citizen science. People should take care to be objective, accurate, and interpretable in their conclusions. But I would also stress that this shouldn't mean giving up and omitting analysis altogether when, as is

Re: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info)

2020-02-12 Thread Michael Cooper
Hi Doug, Thanks for starting this interesting discussion. I looked into Painted Bunting molts earlier this winter when I started looking at the spate of e-bird reports of vagrants from around Maryland and north. I found at least 15 or so records for this fall and early winter, many of them in

Re: [nysbirds-l] (Over)Certainty in eBird reports (Brooklyn Painted Bunting info)

2020-02-12 Thread Herb Smith
Thanks for posting this Doug, it is very interesting to hear what Peter had to say about it. I do see what you're talking about though with the slight blueish tinge in the nape area. Good point regarding bid info as well Herb On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 8:16 PM Doug Gochfeld wrote: > While the spec