Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Indicating the resource server to the AS allows the AS to automatically select token type, encryption scheme and user data to be put into the access token based on a RS-specific policy. So there is no need to explicitely ask the AS for a certain token format or encryption scheme. > Am 11.04.20

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Regarding using resource indicator to solve resource config issue

2016-04-11 Thread Phil Hunt (IDM)
I am objecting to modifying the protocol in the default case as a majority do not need RI in the case of fixed endpoints. Migration would be challenging because the change is breaking and affects existing clients. Dynamic discovery are up and coming cases and a relatively green field. Dealing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 for Native Apps: open source client libraries

2016-04-11 Thread Eduardo Gueiros
No, no especial need at this time. It was more out of curiosity, you guys did a great work...and quick too! I mean, It's just nice for a new project in Swift to be able to work with Swift libraries instead of having to mock with bridging files and @objc annotations. But again, not a strong reason

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Question on draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-04

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
I will work to try and clarify in the next draft but would happily listen to suggestions. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > The intent is that urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:access_token be an > indicator that the token is a typical OAuth access token issued by the AS >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
So it’s an incomplete solution then ? From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:34 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: Nat Sakimura ; Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 No, I'm not adding requirements for encryption

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
No, I'm not adding requirements for encryption. I was pointing out some of the ways that an access token might be different for different RSs. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote: > So now you are adding more requirements for encryption ? The more this > thread goes on shows

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Question on draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-04

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
The intent is that urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:access_token be an indicator that the token is a typical OAuth access token issued by the AS in question, opaque to the client, and usable the same manner as any other access token obtained from that AS (it could well be a JWT but the client isn't

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
So now you are adding more requirements for encryption ? The more this thread goes on shows how unstable and not fully thought out this draft is to go through WG adoption. From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:30 PM To: Nat Sakimu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
+1 On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > Yes - an intentionally conservative, implementation- and experience-driven > path. > > Revising OAuth 2.0 is a *big deal*. We shouldn't even be talking about it > until we've completed steps 1-5 below - *including* the "iterate" step, as >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
Sending a token type is not sufficient. There's more involved than the format. Many cases need to know if to encrypt and whom to encrypt to. What claims to put in the token (or reference by the token). What algorithms and keys to use for signing/encryption. The statement that the "Current proposa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Regarding using resource indicator to solve resource config issue

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
I'm not sure where the idea that it's only applicable to special uses like collaboration services is coming from. The pattern described in the draft (using a different parameter name but otherwise the same) is deployed and in-use for normal OAuth cases including and especially the resource owner ce

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Some recent FUD about OAuth

2016-04-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Antonio, you should recommend him/her your new OAuth book! This may help to get some of the misconceptions about OAuth clarified! Ciao Hannes On 04/11/2016 09:04 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: > Just sharing, do not shoot the messenger :) > > http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2016/04/oauth-why-it-does

[OAUTH-WG] Regarding using resource indicator to solve resource config issue

2016-04-11 Thread Phil Hunt (IDM)
I am finding I am not happy with solving the bad resource endpoint config issue with resource indicator. At best I see this as a special use draft for things like collab services or things which aren't resource owner centric. Yet resource endpoint config is a concern for all clients that config

[OAUTH-WG] Concerns and suggestions for RFC 7592 (OAuth 2.0 Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol)

2016-04-11 Thread Flint (RocketDesk)
We are implementing the experimental RFC 7592 in our distributed ASP.NET Core OAuth2 farm. Based on our experience to date, we have a few concerns and suggestions to add to the conversation. Hopefully these are helpful. [P.S. Generally the RFC is strong. Kudos to the RFC 7592 authors.] 1. S

[OAUTH-WG] Question on draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-04

2016-04-11 Thread Adam Lewis
Hi, There are multiple places in draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-04 where a differentiation seems to be drawn between 'access_token' and 'jwt' ... for example in section 2.2.1. when discussing the issued_token_type, it states: a value of "urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:access_token" indic

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Meeting Minutes

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
Under the Token Exchange part it says, "Jim Fenton: we have implmentation that could be adapted to this." but, as I recall, Jim was not speaking for himself there but rather on behalf of Justin via the Jabber room. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Hannes Tschofenig < hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> w

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Some recent FUD about OAuth

2016-04-11 Thread Antonio Sanso
hi Hans, indeed I found this article technically inaccurate and it annoyed me quite a bit… regards antonio On Apr 11, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Hans Zandbelt wrote: > "JWT is a specification for allowing SSO or API usage between services. In > many ways JWT is like SAML" > > makes me stop trying t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Some recent FUD about OAuth

2016-04-11 Thread Hans Zandbelt
"JWT is a specification for allowing SSO or API usage between services. In many ways JWT is like SAML" makes me stop trying to parse/understand the rest of it Hans. On 4/11/16 9:04 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: Just sharing, do not shoot the messenger :) http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2016/04/o

[OAUTH-WG] Some recent FUD about OAuth

2016-04-11 Thread Antonio Sanso
Just sharing, do not shoot the messenger :) http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2016/04/oauth-why-it-doesnt-work-and-how-to-zero-day-attack.html and companion website: http://no-oauth.insanecoding.org/ regards antonio ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.