Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-10.txt

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Please use this link to post purely editorial feedback: http://r9.sharedcopy.com/6djt2n9v EHL On 7/11/10 2:35 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Draft -10 submitted. It includes the following changes: o Fixed typos. Many editorial changes. Rewrote introduction. removed

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization Header Format in draft-10

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
My bad. I forgot to update the ABNF for the parameters. The right answer is 2 in the example below and the correct ABNF is: credentials= OAuth RWS access-token RWS [ 1#auth-param ] access-token = 1*( quoted-char / ) quoted-char= ! / # / $ / % / / ' / ( / )

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On 7/11/10 3:32 PM, Robert Sayre say...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: [this has noting to do with realm] Any solution should be: - Extensible ­ we removed the few discovery parameters from the core spec due to lack

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization Header Format in draft-10

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 1:19 PM To: m...@automattic.com; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization Header Format in draft-10 My bad. I forgot to update the ABNF for the parameters. The right

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09

2010-07-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
. EHL On 6/29/10 12:11 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: For editorial feedback, I am going to try something new and use SharedCopy.com (no install required). Try it out at: http://r6.sharedcopy.com/6bnqq8v If this doesn't work, I'll let people know and cancel it. EHL From

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client credentials returning a refresh token

2010-07-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
How about write some new text about what refresh tokens are for and when they should be issued. I think this can benefit from its own section. The rest is mostly editorial. EHL On 7/10/10 8:09 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: Hey folks - The client credentials flow should never

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client credentials flow got dropped?

2010-07-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
See 'grant_type=none' described in 4.1. EHL On 7/10/10 8:12 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: Hi folks - Draft 6 section 2.9.1 had a section called Client Requests Access Token: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-06#page-34. In this flow a client presented a client_id and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] user-agent flow needs a rewrite

2010-07-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There is no user-agent flow anymore. There is a profile (of the generic endpoints described in the rest of the spec). Draft -09 added the ability to get both an authorization code and an access token. Your description makes it sound like draft -09 broke something when it was never proposed that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
of it being allowed, but if the general use case is going to be without it then the example should reflect that and cut down on the confusion. -- Justin On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 18:01 -0400, Brian Eaton wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: I disagree

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
D. No. But I am looking forward to a long list of feedback for -10 and will do my best to attend virtually. EHL On 7/8/10 9:29 AM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user authresponse code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Arnott Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:16 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user authresponse code-and-token's scope parameter) (this sounds sarcastic, but I'm no being

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user authresponse code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks. Browser security is not my area. It seems to me that this must be documented as all the examples I have seen for such scripts did not include any such security measures. EHL On 7/7/10 1:06 PM, m...@automattic.com m...@automattic.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Eran Hammer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I don't have time to go dig through the list archive. On 7/7/10 2:02 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: It is pretty much the same as originally proposed. Any recent changes are an oversight, not any

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
. EHL On 7/7/10 2:42 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: On 7/7/10 2:02 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: Can you point me to the e-mail threads that reached consensus on using client authentication

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
the parameters for each endpoint are listed in a single place). If people think this can be useful, I'm happy to give it a try once -10 is out and declared stable. EHL On 7/7/10 3:01 PM, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Questions regarding -09 section 3.1

2010-07-06 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:50, Diogo Almeida diogo.borges.alme...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I would like to ask the WG two questions regarding -09 1) On section 3.1, regarding the scope parameter, it reads: code REQUIRED if the response type is token or code-and-token, otherwise

Re: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names

2010-07-06 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Platforms change over time. These platforms are not designed with providing APIs and web services in mind. They are also typically not capable of running over SSL (due to the self-hosted nature of most deployments). Using an apache rewrite rules might be hard for some developers, but it is a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user authresponse code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-06 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
utility in application tracking. From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Arnott Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:16 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft 9, section 4.3.1 missing error code for invalid user credentials

2010-07-04 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: There is no difference. The client credentials are either valid or not. EHL On 7/3/10 5:28 PM, Andrew Arnott andrewarn...@gmail.com http://andrewarn...@gmail.com wrote: I see an invalid-client-credentials error code

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Possible typos in -09, section 2.1 examples

2010-07-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks. This was previously reported and already fixed for -10. Should include the grant_type parameter. EHL On 7/3/10 3:57 PM, Diogo Almeida diogo.borges.alme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Both examples in section 2.1 mention a type parameter, which, if I'm interpreting the changes correctly,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft 9, Section 2 vs. Section 4.1

2010-07-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Section 2 talked about how the client authenticates itself. This is used in the token endpoint but can be used elsewhere (i.e. A device profile). EHL On 7/3/10 5:42 PM, Andrew Arnott andrewarn...@gmail.com wrote: It may be my misreading the spec, or making assumptions based on my cluttered

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft 9, section 4.3.1 missing error code for invalid user credentials

2010-07-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There is no difference. The client credentials are either valid or not. EHL On 7/3/10 5:28 PM, Andrew Arnott andrewarn...@gmail.com wrote: I see an invalid-client-credentials error code, but for the basic-credentials grant type, it seems there should be a specific error code to indicate the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-02 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Rob Richards [mailto:rricha...@cdatazone.org] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:05 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: [Replying to everything at once...] -Original Message- From: Rob

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user auth response code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-02 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
shares state with the embedding site/page? Not sure about that. Marius -- Andrew Arnott I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. - S. G. Tallentyre On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user auth response code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-02 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
it and pretend to be another client. EHL From: Andrew Arnott [mailto:andrewarn...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:24 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Ian McKellar; Marius Scurtescu; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user auth response

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Underscore, dash, green, blue

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
underscores. So I also agree with 3 except headers On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Lukas Rosenstock l...@lukasrosenstock.net wrote: 3 except headers. 2010/7/1 Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com: First, sorry about this. J I do my best not to ask the group this kind of questions

Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do we deal with unrecognized elements in requests and responses?

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Ignore as in, pretend it wasn't sent (from either the client or server). EHL -Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:03 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Yaron Goland; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do we deal

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:49 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Rob Richards; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning My feeling on this is that versioning explicitly in the protocol adds clarity and some small level of compatibility. Different auth and token endpoints are easy, what's

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:57 AM To: Marius Scurtescu Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Basic for client credentials, not to log-in an end-user. EHL -Original Message- From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:08 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Rob Richards; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning Why is using the string Token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:16 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: William Mills; Rob Richards; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Underscore, dash, green, blue

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:19 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Luke Shepard; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Underscore, dash, green, blue 3 - all underscores. If underscores are a big issue with headers then we should consider 1 - all dashes. The problem with all dashes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
It was and this approach was rejected by this group as confusing. At this point, it's specification is so short, it can live anywhere. EHL -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:28 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The rest of the parameters being in the body. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:26 PM To: Justin Richer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning On Thu,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Support for query/body parameters (Was Re: Versioning)

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I think all servers must support the header. I don't think we can demand all servers to support query or post parameters as that can conflict with their existing namespace or architecture. I suggest we: 1. Make the Token scheme required in all resource servers 2. Allow resource servers to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I don't think this is necessary. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:52 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names For section

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[Replying to everything at once...] -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:36 AM Not sure about the future, but looking at OAuth 1 vs OAuth 2. A protected resource request filter may want to decide early what

Re: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:21 PM 2. Greatly reduce the chances of a conflict with a query parameter used by an authz server endpoint or client redirect_uri. There should not be any conflict. Either

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Support for query/body parameters (Was Re: Versioning)

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
That's where the error parameter will be (the only supported place in -09 for a failed protected resource response). EHL -Original Message- From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:51 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:59 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09 since the rewrite of the draft the token endpoint has become a token issuing endpoint, so revocation does not really fit into the picture

Re: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:59 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] register prefixes as opposed to full parameter names On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Support for query/body parameters (Was Re: Versioning)

2010-07-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Good point. No error required. EHL -Original Message- From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:05 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu; Justin Richer; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Support for query/body parameters

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09

2010-06-30 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The SharedCopy experiment is working great (at least for me). However, they have a bug where the sticky notes move so please always highlight the text in addition to leaving a note. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Tuesday

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for text for section 2

2010-06-30 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Manger, James H Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:18 PM To: Yaron Goland; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for text for section 2 Yaron, how can you ding client

[OAUTH-WG] Underscore, dash, green, blue

2010-06-30 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
First, sorry about this. :) I do my best not to ask the group this kind of questions and just pick something on my own, but I can't decide so I'll run a quick vote (yes, a VOTE - I can't imagine seeking a consensus call on this). -09 uses underscores for parameter names (except for in the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09

2010-06-29 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: pel...@gmail.com [mailto:pel...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Pelle Braendgaard Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:43 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -09 I found one small error in 3.1 for the code parameter

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft?

2010-06-29 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:09 PM To: Yaron Goland Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; James Manger; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft? I think it should be possible to discover a resource's OAuth server and its capabilities using a direct Discovery request. I don't think a WWW

Re: [OAUTH-WG] semantics of scope parameter

2010-06-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
First, there is nothing preventing the server from using: scope=photos:read profile:read friends:read or: scope=photos:read profile:readwrite friends:write --- I think the current language strikes the right balance between interop and scopes definitions. While a generic client will not

Re: [OAUTH-WG] semantics of scope parameter

2010-06-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:10 PM To: Dick Hardt; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] semantics of scope parameter First, there is nothing preventing the server from using: scope=photos:read profile:read friends:read or: scope=photos:read

Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do we deal with unrecognized elements in requests and responses?

2010-06-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There are 3 general ways to deal with this: 1. Break on unrecognized parameters - this tends to make the use of extensions hard, and at a minimum requires an error to include the bad parameter in a machine readable way (so a library can figure out an extension is not supported). 2. Ignore

Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do we deal with unrecognized elements in requests and responses?

2010-06-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
28, 2010 6:11 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Yaron Goland; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do we deal with unrecognized elements in requests and responses? For #2, if an extension defines required parameters then you're not supporting the extension if you ignore them. Or am I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Client credentials type

2010-06-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Client credentials type While the AS implementor can infer the request by the parameters, I prefer the programmer explicitly state what she is doing. Thinking of it as a method parameter rather than a type parameter makes

[OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-27 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the 'realm' WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 2617 as required, and is allowed to have scheme-specific structure. We have a few options: 1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth meeting notes on -05 (with updates)

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:35 PM To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth meeting notes on -05 (with updates) During the OAuth WG interim meeting, the group spent a considerable amount of time going over draft -05

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:08 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Extensibility for OAuth? Hi Eran, Hi all, I briefly browsed through the -08

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Scope :: Was: Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The interop value of the current proposal is simple: - defines how multiple scopes are to be expressed (order doesn't matter, space delimited) - provides an easy way to express the required scope when rejected a protected resource request - allows clients the ability to combine scopes (known

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
) is a good thing to support, and by requiring review, only parameters that don't change the overall design will be approved. EHL -Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:13 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN

Re: [OAUTH-WG] How do autonomous clients asks for access tokens?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The access grants do not correlate to the profiles anymore. For example, user-agent uses the authorization-code access grant. The section lists how an autonomous client can use the client credentials or assertion to obtain an access token. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Scope :: Was: Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
That's coming in -09. EHL -Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:19 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo); OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Scope :: Was: Extensibility for OAuth? I'm ok

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clients authenticating with assertions

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
We never had support for two assertions in one request. The client authenticates itself and can include an assertion (or use type 'none'). The client credentials are the client assertion and the assertion is about the resource owner. Also, you can define an assertion type that's a composite

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
on a public list (special for this) 4. get designated expert review 5. get IANA to register The whole thing can be as fast as 2-3 weeks. EHL -Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:22 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Tschofenig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client secret used in Native App profile

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
easily retrieve my secret and there is no centralized way to revoke/replace the secret. Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote on his blog: However, when the Consumer is a desktop application, a mobile application, or any other client-side software such as browser applets (Flash, Java, Silverlight

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal: simplification of the end-user authorization endpoint

2010-06-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:56 PM Basically, why cannot be that problem solved by 2 different requests, both done by the JavaScript layer? If latency is a problem, it would be good to know exactly

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft?

2010-06-23 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
case. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:50 PM To: Manger, James H; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft? Yes, it's on my desk and not yet ready

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft?

2010-06-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG Subject: OAuth discovery draft? Eran, There have been a few mentions recently of an OAuth discovery draft. Is there any such draft yet, or is this just a part that we know needs to be done? ___ OAuth mailing list

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last call for feedback on -08

2010-06-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
It was proposed as part of the device or username and password flow IIRC. Google has something like that when captcha breaks. EHL -Original Message- From: David Recordon [mailto:record...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:47 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite)

2010-06-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
You are a bit behind. -08 added it back as grant_type which works better with the current explanation. EHL From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:29 PM To: Brian Eaton Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07

Re: [OAUTH-WG] native app support (was: Next draft)

2010-06-22 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:17 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: native app support (was: Next draft) On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote

[OAUTH-WG] Last call for feedback on -08

2010-06-21 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I am working on -09 which I hope will be the last major revision of the specification. If you were planning on submitting any feedback on draft -08 or the simplification proposal from David and me, please do so by tomorrow to be included in the next draft. EHL

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery draft?

2010-06-21 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:03 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: OAuth discovery draft? Eran, There have been a few mentions recently of an OAuth discovery draft. Is there any such draft yet, or is this just a part that we know needs to be done? The email on OAuth

[OAUTH-WG] Proposal: simplification of the end-user authorization endpoint

2010-06-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This is a joint proposal from David Recordon and me: ** Background:   The latest draft (-08) unified the  web-server and user-agent client types into a single authorization request format. This was done because once we added an optional authorization code to the user-agent response, it became

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal: simplification of the end-user authorization endpoint

2010-06-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:08 AM To: David Recordon Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal: simplification of the end-user authorization endpoint Yes, I am

[OAUTH-WG] Status update

2010-06-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
With the exception of extensibility, I consider draft -08 to be feature complete. This means that the draft contains all the features and components needed and other then editorial work is close to finished. I plan to finish work on the -09 draft by Mon or Tue next week which will include the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Status update

2010-06-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Not sure what you are referring to. EHL -Original Message- From: Nat [mailto:sakim...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:42 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Status update What about the 'request_url' indirection (without sig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Status update

2010-06-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
that the proposal in the I-D is solid and has wide support. Then try to merge it in. EHL -Original Message- From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakim...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:12 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Status update

Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposal: multiple access tokens from a single authorization flow

2010-06-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:17 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Torsten Lodderstedt; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposal: multiple access tokens from a single authorization flow Alternative proposal. Create a new call for 'dropping privileges' where a client can

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
As long as: - You can provide a URI identifier for the assertion format you are going to use, and - The authorization server can do something useful with the assertion provided and decide if it should grant an access token Then sure, you can use the assertion flow for utilizing any other trust

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Definition of XML response format

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Since XML was dropped, if you feel strongly about this, please submit a new I-D extending the spec to allow XML format responses. Don't worry about how to extend it, just add parameters or whatever for now. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth meeting notes on -05 (with updates)

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
How they communicate is out of scope. EHL From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:57 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth meeting notes on -05 (with updates) - Explain that the separation between

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2 for Native Apps

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Please turn this into a text proposal for section 1.4.3 in -08. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:26 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2 for Native Apps Hi,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification on whether arguments can contain empty values

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The best way to address this is to write more resilient servers. Servers should accept empty optional parameters. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Arnott Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:56 AM To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: [OAUTH-WG]

Re: [OAUTH-WG] On the ease of writing an authorization server

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
If the current draft is too hard for server developers to implement correctly, they should probably hire someone more capable. Server side development of a security protocol isn't something I'd like to see done by people without the proper experience. Once we have the security consideration

Re: [OAUTH-WG] expires_in RE: OAuth meeting notes on -05 (with updates)

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
header field to figure out the absolute expiration time. EHL -Original Message- From: axel.nenn...@telekom.de [mailto:axel.nenn...@telekom.de] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:10 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; oauth@ietf.org Subject: expires_in RE: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth meeting notes on -05

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification on whether arguments can contain empty values

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I added: Parameters sent without a value MUST be treated as if they were omitted from the request. This should cover it. EHL From: Andrew Arnott [mailto:andrewarn...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:49 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite)

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:24 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Andrew Arnott; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] 4.2 Access Token Response in draft 8

2010-06-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
There is nothing in the spec to prevent other parameters. There will be specific methods to extend the protocol. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:27 PM To: oauth Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite)

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
on the end-user authorization endpoint to something else such as the proposed 'response_type'. Otherwise change it to 'grant_type' or something like that. EHL -Original Message- From: Chuck Mortimore [mailto:cmortim...@salesforce.com] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:54 AM To: Eran Hammer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite)

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:20 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -07 (major rewrite) I disagree. I don't think it's redundant, I think it's a clarifying piece

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for single JSON response format

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
of the end-user authorization endpoint response, two people voiced specific objections to that. For now, -07 contains an editorial note about that option (using JSON). I think it is worth further (separate) discussion. EHL On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: After taking a break

Re: [OAUTH-WG] in-app logout?

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
:26 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] in-app logout? Hi Eran, in my perception, there is some support on the list for having a request to revoke refresh tokens. Will you add such a request to the specification? Do you need a text proposal

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Extensibility model in 07?

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Yeah. I need to finish the big rewrite before adding new stuff. I plan to get this done this week. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:20 AM To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org)

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-08.txt

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This is the second half of the big rewrite. I changed the entire introduction to better explain the new model, as well as cleaned up the rest of the new work. This is still not a smooth specification, but I think the general structure is starting to come through. I feel much better about the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for single JSON response format

2010-06-13 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
: +1 -- James Manger -- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.orgmailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.orgmailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, 11 June 2010 6:29 AM To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org) Subject

Re: [OAUTH-WG] A display parameter for user authorization requests

2010-06-13 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
scope will be. EHL From: Evan Gilbert [mailto:uid...@google.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:07 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Marius Scurtescu; record...@gmail.com; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] A display parameter for user authorization requests The immediate parameter is can have unintended

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for single JSON response format

2010-06-13 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
To be clear, you are +1 on using only JSON for server responses on the token endpoint? EHL From: Evan Gilbert [mailto:uid...@google.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:20 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Robert Sayre; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for single JSON

[OAUTH-WG] Device flow to move to an extension

2010-06-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Unlike the rest of the flows, the device flow lacks deployment experience and is still likely to change. It also uses a very different architecture than the rest of the flows (which becomes more obvious in my -07 rewrite). Unless there is strong objection, I am going to remove it from the core

Re: [OAUTH-WG] A display parameter for user authorization requests

2010-06-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, 2010 at 5:32 PM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for moving immediate here as well. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Since these are all extensions to the end-user endpoint, I'd suggest we move the 'immediate' parameter here as well

[OAUTH-WG] Device flow to move to an extension

2010-06-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Unlike the rest of the flows, the device flow lacks deployment experience and is still likely to change. It also uses a very different architecture than the rest of the flows (which becomes more obvious in my -07 rewrite). Unless there is strong objection, I am going to remove it from the core

Re: [OAUTH-WG] in-app logout?

2010-06-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I'm 135 messages behind on the list. I'm knee deep in -07. EHL From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:03 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Fwd: Re: [OAUTH-WG] in-app logout? Hi Eran, you probably didn't notice my

Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-agent flow and pre-registered redirect_uri

2010-06-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Client doesn't need to *be* a web server, just *have* a web server available. EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of George Fletcher Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:25 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-agent

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