[OAUTH-WG] FW: [comment] The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework draft-ietf-oauth-v2-28

2012-06-26 Thread Eran Hammer
Sending to the right place. From: Shiu Fun Poon [mailto:shiufunp...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:40 PM To: draft-ietf-oauth...@tools.ietf.org Subject: [comment] The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework draft-ietf-oauth-v2-28 I am not sure whether you are accepting comments for the

[OAUTH-WG] FW: typo in OAuth 2.0 spec draft v25

2012-06-26 Thread Eran Hammer
From: artem.obotu...@orange.com [mailto:artem.obotu...@orange.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:09 AM To: Eran Hammer Subject: typo in OAuth 2.0 spec draft v25 Dear Eran. In draft v25 of The OAuth 2.0 spec on Figure 4 : Implicit Grant Flow, step G is not documented among steps

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-02

2012-06-24 Thread Eran Hammer
This boils down to whether the registration template can contain all the detailes required for interoperability or not. If not, you need a specification. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Saturday, June

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Parameter Registration Template

2012-06-24 Thread Eran Hammer
It is pretty obvious these refer to the two well defined endpoints in section 3. I will add a reference next to the locations to make this even clearer. There is no such endpoint as client authentication as a location. OAuth core clearly defines three endpoints for which two are extensible via

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Section 7.2

2012-06-18 Thread Eran Hammer
Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Section 7.2 Hi Mike, this text below does not prohibit error information to be sent back to the client (otherwise there would be a MUST NOT). So, if a developer reads this below then when

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Section 7.2

2012-06-16 Thread Eran Hammer
I would rather these restrictions be in the error registry section below and add a forward reference from 7.2. EH From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:17 PM To: Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Section 7.2

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error Registry: Conclusion

2012-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer
We already have multiple registries. This one is about error codes only. I don't think the overlap is clear at this point between errors on the core endpoints vs error on the bearer and future auth schemes opting into this registry. So it is hard to tell which format would be better. The main

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery registration.

2012-06-13 Thread Eran Hammer
These are straight link relation registrations, not LRDD (which has no registration process). It is helpful to put these registrations in context and use LRDD/host-meta as an example of their use, but the actual registration request is simply for a link relation and nothing else. EH

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery registration.

2012-06-13 Thread Eran Hammer
host-meta as one example, and maybe Link headers in a 401 response as another example. EH -Original Message- From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:39 AM To: Eran Hammer; O Auth WG; Apps Discuss Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth discovery

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-12 Thread Eran Hammer
Is the use case of using URI as client ids important? It seems like something that might become useful in the future where clients can use their verifiable servers to bypass client registration and simly use a URI the server can validate via some other means. I just want to make sure those

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-12 Thread Eran Hammer
for redirections including a fragment) about it. EH From: George Fletcher [mailto:gffle...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Mike Jones; William Mills; Hannes Tschofenig; Julian Reschke; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error Encoding: Conclusion

2012-06-08 Thread Eran Hammer
...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:08 AM To: Eran Hammer; Hannes Tschofenig Cc: oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Error Encoding: Conclusion After speaking with the chairs, I volunteered to write a draft of the ABNF text to keep things moving towards completion. An updated

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error Encoding: Conclusion

2012-05-31 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:53 PM To: Eran Hammer; Hannes Tschofenig Cc: oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Error Encoding: Conclusion Actually, could you please publish before the ABNF is done so

Re: [OAUTH-WG] FYI - Text resolving DISCUSS issue about Bearer URI Query Parameter method

2012-05-24 Thread Eran Hammer
I don't care about this either way, but 'explicitly rejected' is an over-reach. I have not seen the chairs make a consensus call about that, or even formally ask the list. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error Registry: Conclusion

2012-05-15 Thread Eran Hammer
In order to make the prescribed change, new text is needed: * New subsection for section 7 (Accessing Protected Resources) providing guidelines for use of the new 'resource access error response' error registry: 1. What are the valid cases in which a 'resource access error response' may be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec

2012-05-11 Thread Eran Hammer
, May 11, 2012 12:00 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec Hi Eran, At 16:04 09-05-2012, Eran Hammer wrote: The IESG members rely on the editor to represent the WG decisions to them when addressing issues. You

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec

2012-05-11 Thread Eran Hammer
] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:19 AM To: SM Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
What exactly is the expected WG discussion on this? I hope people here are not expected to read the patent and make legal decisions about the patent's validity or even applicability as these are questions for lawyers, not engineers. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:37 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer Hi Eran, if you care about the specification (and want to use

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
Thanks. This is the clarification I was seeking. EH -Original Message- From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:17 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer No, don't

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
12:34 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer On 05/09/2012 12:17 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: Whoever you talk to for legal advice about IPR issues related to standards you might implement. My only point is, this group

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
I am confused by the process here. The IESG review raised a LONG list of discuss items for the core specification. I was able to successfully address all but three remaining issues: 1. Lack of ABNF - I will do it myself this week since no one else bothered to offer their help. 2. Registry

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Encoding of Errors in the Base and in the Bearer Spec

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
consensus regarding the scope of the error registry in the core spec, and only suggesting adding a registry in the bearer for that purpose alone. EH -Original Message- From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:33 PM To: Eran Hammer

[OAUTH-WG] Bearer token DISCUSS items related to errors

2012-05-09 Thread Eran Hammer
Most people on this WG are not aware of all the details around the on-going IESG review and my objections to making additional changes to the core specification. Currently, these are the open issues preventing the bearer specification from being approved: From Russ Housley: Section 3.1

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-26.txt

2012-05-02 Thread Eran Hammer
Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework Author(s) : Eran Hammer David Recordon Dick Hardt Filename: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-26.txt Pages : 66

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Updated Dynamic Registration draft --- FW: I-D Action: draft-hardjono-oauth-dynreg-03.txt

2012-04-26 Thread Eran Hammer
Thanks! This removes all my concerns about the charter. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Hardjono Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:25 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Updated Dynamic Registration draft

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth ABNF

2012-04-23 Thread Eran Hammer
During the IESG review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2, Sean Turner raised the following DISCUSS item (meaning, the specification is blocked until this is resolved): 0) General: I found the lack of ABNF somewhat disconcerting in that implementers would have to hunt through the spec to figure out all

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth ABNF

2012-04-23 Thread Eran Hammer
We can do both (provide it as defined and in one section). But someone needs to prepare all the ABNFs first. EH From: Chuck Canning [mailto:chuck.cann...@deem.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:28 PM To: Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: RE: OAuth ABNF As someone trying

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-19 Thread Eran Hammer
#1 as John Panzer identified, allowing the server to control its deployment and supporting HTTP redirects is critical. #2 JSON is better, which one is required is less of on issue but more of a best practices item. I'll add: * Highly cachable * Optimize for large providers, reducing the need

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-18 Thread Eran Hammer
Because it is in the draft the WG is suppose to consider. It's a stated dependency. EH -Original Message- From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:50 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-18 Thread Eran Hammer
WFM. An updated I-D without it would be great. EH -Original Message- From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:57 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-15 Thread Eran Hammer
I'd like to see 'Dynamic Client Registration' removed from the charter along with SWD for the sole reason that figuring out a generic discovery mechanism is going to take some time and this WG has enough other work to focus on while that happens elsewhere. I expect this to come back in the next

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-15 Thread Eran Hammer
Tone aside, this is not the first time you distorted process and technical facts to suit your goals. Just look up some of our exchanges from a year ago and the transcript of the Prague meeting for highlights. EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-15 Thread Eran Hammer
complete, the WG may choose to delay work on this document until ready. EH -Original Message- From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Updated Charter to the IESG (this weekend)

2012-04-12 Thread Eran Hammer
With the exception of SWD which is still being discussed, this looks good. EH On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:55, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hey guys based on the discussion before, during, and after the Paris IETF meeting I am going to send the following updated charter /

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-12 Thread Eran Hammer
Where is this access control and user centric architecture described? I could not find it. EH On Apr 12, 2012, at 14:01, John Bradley ve7...@ve7jtb.com wrote: There are important deployment and privacy issues that caused openID Connect to use SWD. I was part of the OASIS XRI/XRD work

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-18.txt

2012-04-11 Thread Eran Hammer
Issue 2 received extensive WG discussion. At the core of it was the question of how the IETF should handle HTTP authentication error codes. We consults with the HTTPbis WG and consensus was that at this point we do not want to create a general purpose error registry for HTTP authentication

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83

2012-03-30 Thread Eran Hammer
, March 29, 2012 11:15 PM To: Eran Hammer; William Mills; s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83 Yes, you are missing the meeting we had yesterday where it was discussed to be added to the charter. -derek, WG Chair Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83

2012-03-30 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:13 PM To: Eran Hammer; Derek Atkins; s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83 Thanks for the process lecture  except we already had

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83

2012-03-29 Thread Eran Hammer
Hi Derek, Thanks for the notes. Is an audio recording available? -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Derek Atkins Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:27 AM To: s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83

2012-03-29 Thread Eran Hammer
something here? EH From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:26 PM To: Eran Hammer; Derek Atkins; s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAUTH Report for IETF-83 On the SWD stuff there was general discussion about is this the right place

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-22 Thread Eran Hammer
. John B. On 2012-03-21, at 4:35 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: In my opinion, dynamic client registration would allow us to drop public client thus simplifying the core spec. regards, Torsten. Am 15.03.2012 16:00, schrieb Eran Hammer: I believe most do, except for the dynamic client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
seems to be too strong for many people. Better? EH -Original Message- From: breno.demedei...@gmail.com [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:50 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
Mike, Nat, Does the new text work for you? EH -Original Message- From: breno.demedei...@gmail.com [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
I am treating this issue as closed, unless someone wants to proposed language changes based on John's analysis below. EH -Original Message- From: John Bradley [mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:13 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Julian Reschke; i...@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
This add-on is unnecessary. It already says the authorization server can handle it any way it wants. The fact that other registration options are possible clearly covers the client identifier reuse case. As for the response type, that's not an issue but more of an optimization for an edge case

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
The only reason it is taking a long time is lack of WG feedback and total lack of attention from the chairs. If you are looking to improve delivery time, I would start by getting more involved and help drive issues to completion. Suggesting the problem is with the single author is unfounded and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
I believe most do, except for the dynamic client registration. I don't have strong objections to it, but it is the least important and least defined / deployed proposal on the list. The AS-RS work is probably simpler and more useful at this point. EH -Original Message- From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.commailto:e...@hueniverse.com Cc: Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.commailto:sakim...@gmail.com, OAuth WG oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
if the resulting text is confusing and possibly misleading. Better to say nothing instead. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:32, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Here are the facts: The authorization server must know the client type in order to enforce many of the requirements

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
the entire principle of why two response_type 'code' and 'token' were defined, and how OAuth2 is typically implemented. That's when I claim this normative language is redefining the protocol. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:13, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote: Which text in -25 are you proposing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:12 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Nat Sakimura; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:13, Eran Hammer e...@hueniverse.com wrote

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
This was already raised and addressed on this list last week. When someone defines and registers code+token, that specification must define how such a client is registered in light of the text below. This might mean defining a new client type, choosing the confidential client type with other

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
different client identifiers to such complex clients. I think this is another point missed in your reading of the text. Hope this clarifies it. EH -Original Message- From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:16 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Marius

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
[mailto:mscurte...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:24 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Before v23 a web server client could use either response_type=code or response_type=token, with the same client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
[mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:42 AM To: Eran Hammer; Marius Scurtescu Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 All of Marius, Breno, Nat, myself, and several others on the OpenID AB list have read

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
Looks great! Not sure if 'JSON Web Token (JWT)' belongs on this list, but not a big problem. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:21 PM To: oauth@ietf.org WG Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
I am strongly opposed to SWD being part of *this* working group. My objection is based on: 1. This is clearly an APP area document, not a SEC area document. Getting this work done through the OAuth WG will skip the most relevant audience for this document as a general purpose tool. 2.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
The best way is to get some drafts going and then revisit after the proposed charter is completed. I think the 5 new items limit along with the existing work is as much as this WG can take for the time being. Getting some market experience would be great too. EH -Original Message-

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Richer, Justin P. [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:51 PM [...] the AS-PR connection is a real and present known gap introduced in OAuth2 (since OAuth1 didn't even think of them as separate entities) and *somebody* should be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification of client application consisting of multiple components

2012-03-11 Thread Eran Hammer
If you have two components each with different security profile, you must assign each a different client_id. Otherwise, there is no way to enforce the rest of the spec's security requirements. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification of client application consisting of multiple components

2012-03-11 Thread Eran Hammer
in the future will have to figure out how this should be handled. EH -Original Message- From: nov matake [mailto:n...@matake.jp] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:21 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: nov matake; oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification of client application

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt

2012-03-08 Thread Eran Hammer
Yep. Forgot to drop the NOT. Want a new -25? EH -Original Message- From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:32 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt Thanks Eran

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt

2012-03-08 Thread Eran Hammer
I pushed -25 just in case with this fix. -Original Message- From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:32 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt Thanks Eran

[OAUTH-WG] FW: comments on oauth-v2-http-mac-00

2012-03-08 Thread Eran Hammer
Sending to the full list. -Original Message- From: Roger Crew [mailto:c...@cs.stanford.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:47 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Adam Barth; Ben Adida Subject: comments on oauth-v2-http-mac-00 Hi, I have some comments on the now-expired http_hmac draft

Re: [OAUTH-WG] FW: Appsdir review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Henry S. Thompson [mailto:h...@inf.ed.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:07 AM 11 It seems at best old-fashioned that the designer of a new access token type, parameter, endpoint response type or extension error has no better tool available than

Re: [OAUTH-WG] error codes in 4.1.2.1 and 4.2.2.1 and extension response types (8.4)

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Added: unsupported parameter value (other than grant type) EH -Original Message- From: Roger Crew [mailto:c...@cs.stanford.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:53 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] error codes in 4.1.2.1 and 4.2.2.1

Re: [OAUTH-WG] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Songhaibin [mailto:haibin.s...@huawei.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:53 AM To: Justin Richer Cc: tsv-...@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-oauth...@tools.ietf.org; Martin Stiemerling; oauth@ietf.org; tsv-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] tsv-dir

Re: [OAUTH-WG] How an AS can validate the state parameter?

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Can't validate, but can sanitize. EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Arnott Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:36 AM To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: [OAUTH-WG] How an AS can validate the state parameter? From section 10.14: (draft 23) The

Re: [OAUTH-WG] error response for invalid refresh token

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Invalid_grand is correct. EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Buhake Sindi Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:16 AM To: Peter Brindisi Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] error response for invalid refresh token Hi invalid_grant The provided

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Server cret verification in 10.9

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
PM To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Eran Hammer; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Server cret verification in 10.9 We added the reference to RFC6125 in openID Connect. The Client MUST perform a TLS/SSL server certificate check, per xref target=RFC6125RFC 6125/xref. We wanted

Re: [OAUTH-WG] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Thanks Haibin. -Original Message- From: Songhaibin [mailto:haibin.s...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:33 AM Nits: 1. Section 3.1, paragraph 4, the last sentence is confusing, is it the authorization server who sends the request to the authorization endpoint? Or

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: John Bradley [mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:07 PM To: Eran Hammer Cc: Julian Reschke; i...@ietf.org; The IESG; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Quick question about error response for response_type=unknown

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Section 3.1.1 states: If an authorization request is missing the response_type parameter, the authorization server MUST return an error response as described in Section 4.1.2.1. The intention was to make this the catch-all scenario. While I do appreciate the issue here of the client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
Should simple read the attacker's user-agent is sent to. EH -Original Message- From: Songhaibin [mailto:haibin.s...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:11 PM To: Eran Hammer; tsv-...@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-oauth...@tools.ietf.org Cc: tsv-...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt

2012-03-07 Thread Eran Hammer
: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Authorization Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol Author(s) : Eran

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Ignoring unrecognized request parameters

2012-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer
Can you give an example where an unknown parameter being ignored can lead to security issues? EH From: John Bradley ve7...@ve7jtb.commailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:55:21 -0700 To: William Mills wmi...@yahoo-inc.commailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com Cc:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01.txt

2012-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer
: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2012 4:55 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01.txt Main changes: Removed cookies support Removed body hash Clarified timestamp verification

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 LC conclusion

2012-02-15 Thread Eran Hammer
Purely editorial. EH On Feb 15, 2012, at 15:09, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: Do you have changes to make based on the Apps and TSV Directorate reviews? Barry ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 LC conclusion

2012-02-14 Thread Eran Hammer
Last call ended 2/6. I have got some notes but nothing significant. I think I can resolve all of them with editorial tweaks. I am planning on posting -24 this week and get this ready for IESG review. Any comments? EH ___ OAuth mailing list

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Clarification on section 3.3: missing scope parameter in access token request

2012-02-13 Thread Eran Hammer
The text serves two purposes: 1. Warn client developers that the server may have a default scope and that they should figure out what it is or what the scope requirements are 2. Make server developers aware that they should publish their default scope of scope handling

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01.txt

2012-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer
: HTTP Authentication: MAC Access Authentication Author(s) : Eran Hammer-Lahav Filename: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01.txt Pages : 20 Date: 2012-02-08 This document specifies the HTTP MAC access authentication scheme

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Implementing MAC bearer

2012-02-08 Thread Eran Hammer
New draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01 EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Erlend Hamnaberg Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:02 AM To: OAuth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Implementing MAC bearer Hi guys and gals. I am

[OAUTH-WG] FW: Appsdir review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23

2012-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Henry S. Thompson [mailto:h...@inf.ed.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:31 AM To: apps-disc...@ietf.org; barryle...@gmail.com; dick.ha...@gmail.com; d...@fb.com; Eran Hammer; hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net; stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie Cc: i...@ietf.org Subject

[OAUTH-WG] Mail regarding draft-ietf-oauth-v2

2012-02-06 Thread Eran Hammer
Sending to the right place. From: Thomas, Christopher (LLU) [mailto:cwtho...@llu.edu] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:33 AM To: draft-ietf-oauth...@tools.ietf.org Subject: Mail regarding draft-ietf-oauth-v2 Hello, I'm looking into implementing the Oauth2 spec for a work project and I think I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part II)

2012-01-26 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:07 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part II) I realize that -23 is already published with the below text, but since this is a whole

[OAUTH-WG] WWW-Authenticate Header (Bearer etc.)

2012-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer
People seems confused about the issue raised by Julian. It is pretty simple. The HTTP WWW-Authenticate header definition allows each header parameter to have a quoted string or token value. Token values are very restrictive and not suitable for scope (no spaces, etc.). Quoted strings allow a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-23 Thread Eran Hammer
, January 23, 2012 1:23 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: William Mills; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification Den 20. jan. 2012 kl. 21:32 skrev Eran Hammer: New text added to Access Token Scope section: If the client omits

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
Added to section 1: TLS Version Whenever TLS is required by this specification, the appropriate version (or versions) of TLS will vary over time, based on the widespread deployment and known security vulnerabilities. At the time of this writing, TLS version 1.2

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
. The authorization server SHOULD document its scope requirements and default value (if defined). EHL From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:58 PM To: Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity

[OAUTH-WG] SHOULD vs MUST for indicating scope on response when different from client request

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
The current text: If the issued access token scope is different from the one requested by the client, the authorization server SHOULD include the scope response parameter to inform the client of the actual scope granted. Stephen asked why not a MUST. I think it should be MUST. Any

[OAUTH-WG] Server cret verification in 10.9

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
Stephen asked: (13) 10.9 says that the client MUST verify the server's cert which is fine. However, does that need a reference to e.g. rfc 6125? Also, do you want to be explicit here about the TLS server cert and thereby possibly rule out using DANE with the non PKI options that that WG

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part I)

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:13 AM List 1 - Fairly sure these need changes: (1) In 2.3.1 MUST the AS support both HTTP

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part III)

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
-Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:13 AM Original list of nits: -- - Intro: Maybe add some ascii-art showing the roles of the user, browser, client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-23.txt

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Authorization Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol Author(s) : Eran Hammer David Recordon Dick

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Error code for access token request

2012-01-19 Thread Eran Hammer
In the case of section 5, because this is a direct interaction with the client, the server should issue a 5xx response instead. EHL From: Antonio Sanso [mailto:asa...@adobe.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:06 AM To: Eran Hammer Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: Error code for access token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Access Token Response without expires_in

2012-01-17 Thread Eran Hammer
interop. I’m going to go with adding: If omitted, the authorization server SHOULD provide the expiration time via other means or document the default value. EHL From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:02 AM To: Eran Hammer; Aaron Parecki; OAuth WG Cc

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Phishing with Client Application Name Spoofing

2012-01-16 Thread Eran Hammer
Should this be added to the security model document? Is it already addressed there? EHL -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of André DeMarre Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:33 AM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Phishing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking clarity on Section 4.3 and the specification of client credentials

2012-01-16 Thread Eran Hammer
Compliant - sure. Smart - well, that depends on the use case. OAuth provide a very flexible framework (mostly because we could not agree more on restrictions). This means you can follow the spec and produce bad or insecure implementation. The spec does warn against such issues, and in the case

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2012-01-16 Thread Eran Hammer
Added: scope = scope-token *( SP scope-token ) scope-token = %x21 / %x23-5B / %x5D-7E EHL -Original Message- From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.resc...@gmx.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:40 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf

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