RE: [obc] TT results on OBC links
I agree completely. Her TT stats are a marvel and should be properly linked. I also have noticed that when Celia was in charge of the OBC web's classy ads, material was put up in a timely manner. Now it can be weeks before anything new shows up. I don't understand why the OBC took something away from a competent volunteer only to make it worse. Sheila Michael Coldwell wrote: Earlier this season I had pointed out, to the OBC Board, the lack of TT results on the OBC website. I was told, at that time, that it was being developed and we should all be more patient. Since Celia had (and has!) continued to independently produce excellent quality result pages and since it appeared that development of the official TT pages had hardly started, I suggested that, at least until the work was complete, a link be made from the OBC web to Celia's result pages. My suggestion was ignored, and at one point there were no updates to the official TT result pages for more than a month of our competetive season. We have now had almost a whole season of TT's, and most members of the club have mostly viewed the results from Celia's link that she sends out each week. The reality is that Celia is supporting the club member requirements, and is certainly recognized within the membership for her superb work and dedication, though it seems unappreciated by the OBC board. If the OBC board is unwilling to appreciate the TT results we did have (which I feel were second to none of any bicycle club sites), then I would recommend that the TT keeper position be an elected position. You know where my vote will go. Advantages of Celia's site: colour coded for easy viewing and picking out relative placements; links from each line detail to access other grouping information (by category, name, or speed); timeliness of data onto the site; weather details; proper seed sheets; BAR calculations; ABC results; complete and accurate results (i.e. all categories (I notice the PeeWee is missing from August 8 official results - too bad, as I think it's great to encourage the young cyclists); complete volunteer lists (once again, we can't survive without volunteers, and they should always be recognized)); there may be more issues, but I sure haven't done an in depth search). I am a user of this information, appreciate having it, and knowing that we have had the quality support from Celia, certainly would not expect that we need to take a step backwards as technological capabilities generally takes steps forward. Michael __ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] TT results on OBC links
Michael, I agree with your recommendation of a Time Trial Keeper (TTK) position. My vote would also go for Celia. Celia's continuous hard work and dedication has been exemplary. She has been patient, dependable, and good natured. Results are posted the same evening. She not only compiles the results, but also summarizes each event in her e-mail. She personalizes the results by highlighting fastest times and PBs, adds humour and explanations; e.g., her running 2k across the finish with her bike (broken chain), Sally's TT in flip flops. I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes; however, if I were on the executive, I would treat her with kid gloves, for fear of losing such a treasured gem. Thanks Celia for all your hard work, Mary Ajersch Volunteer SS CKO - Original Message - From: Michael Coldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OBC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: [obc] TT results on OBC links - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Velonews interview with Gord Fraser
http://www.velonews.com/race/dom/articles/2926.0.html Kevin Nelson - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] TT results on OBC links
Yes, Mary, What does go on behind the scenes ? Does anyone know about a NEW Handicap TT point system ? I hear of radical changes in the calculations. Why is it kept a secret ? I think I'm entitled to know, it says in the latest Spokesperson: Who can unseat Mary Ajersch and Hermann Kerckhoff ? We are both training hard for this event. Hermann Kerckhoff - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Hermann
. behind the scenes and . kept a secret? Hermann, what have you been smoking? The Board (comprised of 14 members) discusses items of importance. Notes from Board meetings are published in the newsletter. Board meetings are open to members. We meet first Monday of each month if you are interested. The Board asked the Vice-President to review one request for changes to the TT handicapping method. Bruce reviewed the rtequest and we discussed it at last Monday's Board meeting. Bruce will announce the 2002 handicapping method shortly. And no, there is no *radical* change, just some fine tuning to make it more competitive. Now about that performance enhancing stuff you are inhaling . Avery Hermann Christa Kerckhoff wrote: Yes, Mary, What does go on behind the scenes ? Does anyone know about a NEW Handicap TT point system ? I hear of radical changes in the calculations. Why is it kept a secret ? I think I'm entitled to know, it says in the latest Spokesperson: Who can unseat Mary Ajersch and Hermann Kerckhoff ? We are both training hard for this event. Hermann Kerckhoff - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Hermann
Hi Avery, I'm not offended since I have never smoked-not even in my youth ! You are confirming that its been kept a secret - but leaked. So is it true the NEW formular is: 5 sec.'s per year over 40 ? It was a wide - open discussion among the Big Boys yesterday on the Lanark Ride, no need for the Vice President to make an official news release, or ? The competition is only 3 weeks away, we train hard, make plans to attend, why the delay ? I'm for AHEAD OF THE SCENE... Hermann - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Hermann
And are we going to put in a gender-handicap to make the event even more competitive. (We can still award trophies for the best within each gender). Probably a lot more women would be interested in competing if this was done. Maybe we'd even outnumber the men as we did at the Almonte 40k TT yesterday! (That was worth getting up for (5 hours earlier than my Sunday norm...)! - as was the cycle route home - which naturally couldn't entirely be called gravel-Les. Anyway, I didn't see any white stripes painted anywhere to give support to one of the tenets of those wimpy, wussy, whiny bike lane haters... :-) ). Let's maximize the good, fun, healthy competition in this club! Celia Avery Burdett wrote: . behind the scenes and . kept a secret? Hermann, what have you been smoking? The Board (comprised of 14 members) discusses items of importance. Notes from Board meetings are published in the newsletter. Board meetings are open to members. We meet first Monday of each month if you are interested. The Board asked the Vice-President to review one request for changes to the TT handicapping method. Bruce reviewed the rtequest and we discussed it at last Monday's Board meeting. Bruce will announce the 2002 handicapping method shortly. And no, there is no *radical* change, just some fine tuning to make it more competitive. Now about that performance enhancing stuff you are inhaling . Avery Hermann Christa Kerckhoff wrote: Yes, Mary, What does go on behind the scenes ? Does anyone know about a NEW Handicap TT point system ? I hear of radical changes in the calculations. Why is it kept a secret ? I think I'm entitled to know, it says in the latest Spokesperson: Who can unseat Mary Ajersch and Hermann Kerckhoff ? We are both training hard for this event. Hermann Kerckhoff - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
