[ob] Re: FW: UBS Investment Research - Indonesia Property Sector: Eyeing mispricing opportunity

2009-03-29 Terurut Topik Vic
news n riset cc: Bakrieland: FY08 net income overpasses ours and consensus estimates (ELTY, Rp85 Buy, TP: 200) Bakrieland posted FY08 revenues of Rp1.05tn, which came in 4% higher than our estimates but fell short of consensus by 9%. Meanwhile due to rising costs, operating income of Rp226bn,

[ob] Fixed Rate KPR Kembali Marak

2009-03-29 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA. Bagi Anda yang ingin membeli rumah, ini saat yang pas untuk berburu kredit kepemilikan rumah (KPR). Sejak Februari kemarin, banyak bank kembali menawarkan produk KPR yang memasang bunga tetap. Maraknya KPR fixed rate tak lepas dari tren bunga acuan BI Rate yang merosot sepanjang lima

Re: [ob] Parah ...................

2009-03-30 Terurut Topik Vic
berarti yg pake ipot di sini dikit banget hehehe. there's no such thing as free lunch. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Asep IG asepi...@... wrote: ini milis obrolan bandar bro... ada tuh 5x postingan tentang ipot ngaco k peace :) asep_iwan_g 2009/3/30 harrywijaya81

[ob] Re: [Milis-AATI] Ketika Saham Jatuh, Kemanakah Uangnya?

2009-03-30 Terurut Topik Vic
uang terus diciptakan. tapi gak bisa dihancurkan, kecuali duit lecek hehe. jadi uang terus mengalir, mencari peluang2. sementara peluang belum muncul, sekarang uang banyak ngendon di bank. mungkin $ 1 trilyun yg idle. di domestik aja ada bank punya duit nganggur $ 1 milyar. --- In

[ob] Mark-to-Market Lobby Buoys Bank Profits 20% as FASB May Say Yes

2009-03-30 Terurut Topik Vic
Mark-to-Market Lobby Buoys Bank Profits 20% as FASB May Say Yes By Ian Katz and Jesse Westbroo March 30 (Bloomberg) -- Four days after U.S. lawmakers berated Financial Accounting Standards Board Chairman Robert Herz and threatened to take rulemaking out of his hands, FASB proposed an overhaul

[ob] Global Economic Slide May Be Subsiding as G-20 Leaders Gather

2009-04-01 Terurut Topik Vic
Global Economic Slide May Be Subsiding as G-20 Leaders Gather By Simon Kennedy April 2 (Bloomberg) -- Leaders of the most powerful nations meet today amid signs that the world economy is stabilizing after months of freefall. The Group of 20 summit convenes in London as some reports suggest the

Re: Bls: [ob] OOT : Pemilu 2009

2009-04-05 Terurut Topik Vic
dari detik.com, bukan prediksi atau kampanye tapi sekedar info boleh donk. Fenomena Facebook Mega dan Prabowo Dihujat, SBY Disanjung Laurencius Simanjuntak - detikPemilu Jakarta - Jejaring sosial Facebook tidak hanya dijadikan sebagai sarana membangun pertemanan, tetapi juga bisa digunakan

Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)

2009-04-06 Terurut Topik Vic
April 7 (Bloomberg) -- Marc Faber, the investor who recommended buying U.S. stocks before the steepest rally in more than 70 years, said the Standard Poor's 500 Index may drop as much as 10 percent before resuming gains. The index may decline to about 750 and rebound after July, Faber, 63,

[ob] World Bank: China's recovery could start this year

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Vic
World Bank: China's recovery could start this year World Bank says China recovery could start this year, possibly helping the rest of Asia * Joe Mcdonald, AP Business Writer * Tuesday April 7, 2009, 4:53 am EDT BEIJING (AP) -- China is likely to emerge from its economic slump this year, helping

[ob] [OOT] Yudhoyono’s Popularity May Boost Party Gains in Indonesia Vote

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Vic
Yudhoyono's Popularity May Boost Party Gains in Indonesia Vote By Leony Aurora and Arijit Ghosh April 8 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's 70 percent personal approval rating is his Democrat Party's strongest asset as it enters the election season seeking to boost

[ob] Re: EXPORT TINS NAIK 30%

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Vic
tapi harga timah masih disitu2 aja. margin masih tipis. q4 malah rugi karena beli inventory di harga tinggi dan jual pas harga jatuh. tunggu tins akumulasi inventory di harga rendah, terus jual di harga tingi saat ekonomi recover. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bumi T t_b...@...

[ob] Re: BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Vic
efek rumor diakuisisi tlkm? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... wrote: Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga

[ob] Re: FW: UBS Investment Research - Indonesia Property Sector: Eyeing mispricing opportunity

2009-04-07 Terurut Topik Vic
properti gerak lagi. bahkan asri n bksl. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@... wrote: CTRA TP Rp. 505. ELTY TP Rp. 125. SMRA TP Rp. 400. Di Amrik data properti naik diluar perkiraan, apa ini saatnya properti Indonesia juga ikut bergerak?

[ob] Re: jangan jual bumi anda..!

2009-04-08 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau pemilu sukses, mestinya mestakung buat bumi. lagipula masalah bumi bukan di fundamental, tapi corporate governance. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: dear obers, apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...? JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI

[ob] Re: Pion benteng BUMI mulai beraksi

2009-04-08 Terurut Topik Vic
apa abis pemilu bisa ke 1100 sesuai target jend show me the money (artomoro)??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: BUMI OFFER 950 lagi dihabisin , ini baru INFLOW ke BEI meskipun IHSG -21... Ini menunjukan commitment Bozz untuk menambah dana

Re: [ob] UNSP kebukti

2009-04-08 Terurut Topik Vic
bakrie group kan yg paling kena crash landing. recovery gak mungkin bareng2, satu2 dulu lah mulai dari bumi. anggap aja gem in the mud. asal bukan germ hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, welly_oct88 welly_oc...@... wrote: two thumbps up for being stupid stock hehehe

Re: [ob] Dow tertolong morgage home builder merger

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Vic
Wall Street is poised for a sharply higher open after Wells Fargo forecast a record $3 billion profit for the first quarter. The news from Wells is a welcome sign for investors who have been looking for signs o whether the credit and lending markets have improved in recent months.

[ob] Re: Pemilu 2004 dan ihsg

2009-04-11 Terurut Topik Vic
v-shape recovery? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kidod25 kido...@... wrote: Melihat pemilu 2004 dan ihsg, setelah nyoblos tgl 5 apr 04 indeks rebound dari 750 hingga 815 di 19 apr 04, kemudian turun ke 697 di 31 may 04. Dan diakhir tahun jebol 1000. Kondisi agak beda, amrik udah

[ob] Re: Investing in property sector using PBV (Sorry koreksi lagi)

2009-04-12 Terurut Topik Vic
nambahin data 52-week high n life-time high - CTRP = 420 n 650 (11 des 07) - CTRS = 610 n 1860 (21 mar 05) - CTRA = 560 n 1040 (20 apr 07) - ELTY = 460 n 680 (27 feb 08) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Investing in property sector using PBV

Re: [ob] UNSP kebukti

2009-04-12 Terurut Topik Vic
saham2 bakrie seperti gems in the mud. kecuali bnbr yg germ in the mud hehehe. di tv iklannya bumi resources gencar banget. tag linenya memperkaya...bla bla, yg keinget cuma kata memperkaya hehe. tanda2 alamkah? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtra...@... wrote: I knew

[ob] Bank BUMN Ingin Pangkas Bunga Kredit

2009-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA. Silahkan berharap bunga kredit bakal rontok. Seorang bankir mengungkapkan, bank-bank BUMN secara bersamaan akan menurunkan bunga kreditnya pada 20 April nanti. Rencananya sih, begitu, ujar Sofyan Basir, Direktur Utama PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk (BRI). Sofyan menyebut, pemangkasan

[ob] BNI Securities Beri Outlook Positif untuk ELTY

2009-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA. Dalam hasil risetnya yang dirilis hari ini, BNI Securities membahas mengenai kinerja PT Bakrieland Development Tbk (ELTY). Pada tahun 2008, ELTY berhasil membukukan kenaikan pendapatan sebesar 34,7% menjadi Rp 1,05 triliun. Data ini menunjukkan adanya perbaikan dalam kinerja ELTY.

[ob] Rencana Divestasi ELTY di Bakrie Toll Road Dinilai Positif

2009-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA. PT Bakrieland Development Tbk (ELTY) saat ini tengah menyiapkan opsi untuk mendivestasi 49% kepemilikan sahamnya di Bakrie Toll Road. Divestasi akan dilakukan setelah ruas Kanci - Pejagang yang dimiliki oleh perusahaan tol tersebut beroperasi pada Juli 2009 mendatang. Oleh karenanya,

[ob] Goldman 1Q earnings surpass Wall Street estimates

2009-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
Goldman 1Q earnings surpass Wall Street estimates Goldman Sachs earns $1.66B in 1st-quarter, surpassing Wall Street's estimates Sara Lepro, AP Business Writer Monday April 13, 2009, 6:53 pm EDT NEW YORK (AP) -- Goldman Sachs, in another sign that banks may be turning around, beat Wall Street's

[ob] Re: Aturan Main Short Sell di BEI

2009-04-13 Terurut Topik Vic
hati2 short squeeze hehehe. Did Goldman Goose Oil? http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0413/096-sachs-semgroup-goldman-goose-oil.html --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mas Soemringah soemrin...@... wrote: Embah Para Senior di milis OB, mohon informasi petunjuk mengenai aturan main

Re: [ob] UNSP kebukti

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik Vic
hari ini bakrie's gemstones muncul dari lumpur. kecuali bnbr hehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote: saham2 bakrie seperti gems in the mud. kecuali bnbr yg germ in the mud hehehe. di tv iklannya bumi resources gencar banget. tag linenya memperkaya...bla

[ob] Economists See a Rebound in September

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik Vic
Economists in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey expect the recession to end in September, though most say it won't be until the second half of 2010 that the economy recovers enough to bring down unemployment. Gross domestic product was predicted to contract in the first and

[ob] BI Rate Berpeluang Turun Lagi

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Vic
BI Rate Berpeluang Turun Lagi Herdaru Purnomo - detikFinance Jakarta - Suku bunga acuan Bank Indonesia (BI Rate) masih berpeluang turun jika inlfasi pada bulan April ini juga menunjukan penurunan. Demikian disampaikan Deputi Gubernur BI Hartadi A Sarwono di Gedung Departemen Keuangan,

[ob] New signs emerge that recession may be easing

2009-04-16 Terurut Topik Vic
New signs emerge that recession may be easing as housing nears a bottom Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer Thursday April 16, 2009, 5:00 pm EDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Housing construction unexpectedly plunged, the number of people receiving jobless benefits grew and JPMorgan Chase Co. said

[ob] Re: news for long term investor trader

2009-04-16 Terurut Topik Vic
inventory copper memang turun. berdasarkan data dari basemetals.com, copper warehouse stock turun dari high 550 ribu mt ke 475 ribu mt.

[ob] China Economy to Rebound as Stimulus Spurs Investment

2009-04-17 Terurut Topik Vic
China Economy to Rebound as Stimulus Spurs Investment By Kevin Hamlin April 17 (Bloomberg) -- China's economy, the world's third largest, may rebound this quarter as Premier Wen Jiabao's 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) stimulus package cushions the effects of the global recession. Urban

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI : TP.1.200

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Vic
jadi ke 1200 gak? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vaulstrad vaulst...@... wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: Mba, Yang nyangkut boleh dishort di 1200 gak? Atau bulan depan masih naik lagi? 2009/2/16 Jack Cowok jackcowok2@:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI : TP.1.200

2009-02-19 Terurut Topik Vic
Step by step ooh baby Gonna get to you girl ... http://www.google.co.id/search?hl=enq=step+by+step+lyric+new+kids+onbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tommy Yu tradersej...@... wrote: Tahun depan kali haha On 2/18/09, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI : TP.1.200

2009-02-19 Terurut Topik Vic
, namun kenaikan volume dan nilai transaksi BUMI akibat pembelian CLSA secara masif pada perdagangan Sesi II menahan laju penurunan IHSG. http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/02/19/172727/1087581/6/clsa-beli-81-juta-saham-bumi --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI = 10 x ELTY

2009-02-22 Terurut Topik Vic
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote: tp bumi: 550 (daisy ml) s.d 1000 (lupa siapa) tp elt: 158 (mega cap), 200 (mandiri sec), 230 (samuel sec) jadi potential gain (menurut riset) lebih bagusan elty. lagipula riset saham properti dibikin dgn asumsi bi rate akhir tahun

[obrolan-bandar] S.Korea sees around $2.5 bln trade surplus in Feb

2009-02-22 Terurut Topik Vic
Thomson Financial News S.Korea sees around $2.5 bln trade surplus in Feb 02.22.09, 01:12 AM EST SEOUL, Feb 22 (Reuters) - South Korea expects the trade balance to swing to a surplus of around $2.5 billion in February from a deficit of $3.36 billion in January, the Ministry of Knowledge Economy

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Saya kaya? masa sih?

2009-02-22 Terurut Topik Vic
If You Can Actually Count Your Money, then You Are Not Really a Rich Man (J. Paul Getty). --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Boys n Girls boysngi...@... wrote: Quote REMEMBER: The first rule of wealth is Have no debt. Wealth is not wealth if you owe it to someone else. comment :

[obrolan-bandar] Pengembang Bersuka Cita Sambut Draft Kepemilikan Asing

2009-02-24 Terurut Topik Vic
Pengembang Bersuka Cita Sambut Draft Kepemilikan Asing JAKARTA. Pemerintah saat ini sedang menyiapkan draft kepemilikan properti asing selama 90 tahun sekaligus baik itu untuk landed house maupun apartemen. Tentu saja ini merupakan langkah maju yang dilakukan oleh Badan Pertanahan Nasional (BPN)

[obrolan-bandar] Bakrie Capital, PNM, dan Jaksa Berunding Masalah Repo

2009-02-24 Terurut Topik Vic
Bakrie Capital, PNM, dan Jaksa Berunding Masalah Repo JAKARTA. Kelanjutan proses penyelesaian utang repurchase agreement (repo) Bakrie Capital Indonesia masih remang-remang. PT PNM Investment sebagai penerima repo itu dan Bakrie Capital bakal berunding lagi guna menyelesaikan utang repo Bakrie

[obrolan-bandar] Perubahan APBN 2009, DPR Setujui Anggaran Stimulus

2009-02-24 Terurut Topik Vic
Perubahan APBN 2009, DPR Setujui Anggaran Stimulus JAKARTA. Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat (DPR) menyetujui perubahan struktur anggaran pendapatan dan belanja negara (APBN) 2009. Salah satunya, pengalokasian dana untuk stimulus fiskal senilai Rp 73, 1 triliun. Wakil Ketua Panitia Anggaran DPR Suharso

[obrolan-bandar] Obama tells nation: 'We are not quitters'

2009-02-25 Terurut Topik Vic
Wednesday February 25, 3:18 am ET By David Espo, AP Special Correspondent Obama sketches ambitious agenda, beginning with jobs, tells nation: 'We are not quitters' WASHINGTON (AP) -- To a nation reeling from recession and facing long-festering problems, President Barack Obama has a simple

[obrolan-bandar] Indonesia to Sell 5- and 10-Year Dollar Bonds Today

2009-02-26 Terurut Topik Vic
By Lester Pimentel and Lilian Karunungan Feb. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia plans to sell dollar- denominated bonds due in 2014 and 2019 in international markets today, testing demand for emerging-market debt as a deepening global recession curbs investors' risk appetite. The notes will be priced

[obrolan-bandar] Source: Citi-gov't aid deal may come this week

2009-02-26 Terurut Topik Vic
Thursday February 26, 4:14 am ET By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer AP Source: Citigroup deal to boost goverment's stake to as much as 40 pct could come this week NEW YORK (AP) -- Citigroup Inc.'s bid to boost its equity capital could result in the federal government raising its stake in the

[obrolan-bandar] Berkshire has worst year, Buffett still optimistic

2009-02-28 Terurut Topik Vic
Saturday February 28, 6:07 pm ET By Josh Funk, AP Business Writer Buffett optimistic despite Berkshire's worst year, prospects for more economic turmoil OMAHA, Neb. (AP) -- Warren Buffett remains optimistic about the prospects for his company and the nation even though Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Pengumuman

2009-03-02 Terurut Topik Vic
banyak pemerintah bikin program bail out n stimulus. mungkin big boss n the gank bisa bikin program bail out bursa, mumpung harga di bawah bv. jangan cuma mikir profit jangka pendek donk, think long term boss. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack jack_sparro...@... wrote: Untuk semua

Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] China: Ekonomi diperkirakan akan pulih dalam pertengahan tahun pertama

2009-03-03 Terurut Topik Vic
ekonomi china cuma 40% tergantung sama ekspor. ekonomi kita 35%. jadi ekonomi domestik yg akan lebih berperan. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... wrote: soon 10-15 tahun lagi strongest ekonomi akan ke china, amerika  no 2, jepang no 3... kita

[obrolan-bandar] China says 8 percent growth possible in 2009

2009-03-04 Terurut Topik Vic
Thursday March 5, 12:31 am ET By Joe Mcdonald, AP Business Writer China says 8 percent growth possible in 2009; record budget deficit forecast amid stimulus BEIJING (AP) -- China's premier said Thursday the country can achieve 8 percent growth this year despite a worsening global economic

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BI Rate - Suku bunga acuan untuk apa ?

2009-03-05 Terurut Topik Vic
minggu depan bank2 bumn akan turunkan bunga deposito lagi. bunga kredit akan dipaksa turun, krn ada tekanan dari bi n meneg bumn. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeksbei3...@... wrote: Dear HMIN Bisakah membandingkan Chart BI Rate dengan Chart Inflasi ?Karena itu sebenarnya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: there is something about accounting : CNBC = Stocks Could Skyrocket After March 12th

2009-03-09 Terurut Topik Vic
masuk akal sih. gara2 mtm maka write down bisa 80-90% dari bv, padahal maksudnya held-to-maturity. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kusumo k kusu...@... wrote: Bean counter on the move ??? Is it possible ? or just another cnbc's hip hip huray http://www.cnbc.com/id/29549920

[obrolan-bandar] Re: What is The Most Undervalued JCI Stock?

2009-03-09 Terurut Topik Vic
properti rata2 nav bahkan bv. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kusumo k kusu...@... wrote: Mbah, switch ke financial kalee ya belanjanya. 2009/3/8 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Pak DE, Bentuk grafik harga coal mulai menghawatirkan --- In

[obrolan-bandar] Re: DJ future +91 jam 15:39

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Vic
Oil rises to near $48 as OPEC signals another supply cut likely at Sunday's meeting http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090310/oil_prices.html --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: DJ future +91 jam 15:39

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow ends up nearly 380 on Citigroup profit news - Stocks rally after Citi says operating at profit, Bernanke calls for bank reform...

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Vic
gile, up 5,80%. bisa gak ihsg ngikut hehe. n225 + 3,7%, aord +2% bbca n bmri bisa jadi lokomotif?? atau malah bumi?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@... wrote: http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aj3gcxo4dhGMhAZILPH4Lxq7YWsA/SIG=112tdt45f/**h

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Vic
semesta mendukung = regional ijo? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi megasho...@... wrote:   Biasanya BUMI 'bisa' rally kalau metaskung       --- On Wed, 3/11/09, h...@... h...@... wrote: From: h...@... h...@... Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI To:

[obrolan-bandar] SBY Urges Banks to Cut Loan Rates

2009-03-10 Terurut Topik Vic
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono asked Indonesian banks to cut borrowing costs immediately to help sustain growth, as the central bank said it had held talks with financial-service companies to encourage cheaper loans. I know that banks need to improve their businesses, but I ask banks to

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Wave 5 is running

2009-03-11 Terurut Topik Vic
Dana Rp 30 Triliun Beredar Sepanjang Pemilu http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/03/11/131044/1097700/4/dana-rp-30-triliun-beredar-sepanjang-pemilu --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, cipto_jh cipto...@... wrote: Maaf sebelumnya mbah.. Sektor perbankan ke depannya memang didukung oleh

[obrolan-bandar] Re: New poll for obrolan-bandar

2009-03-12 Terurut Topik Vic
faktor presiden menentukan. dan di tengah ketidakpastian (ekonomi), kecenderungan pilih yg pasti2 aja. it's the economy, stupid! (courtesy bill clinton) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_the_economy,_stupid --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.ra...@... wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS

2009-03-12 Terurut Topik Vic
riset sekuritas rata2 tp di 750-900. lagi ngumpulin barang kali. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tasrul Tanar tasru...@... wrote: Sedikit tambahan dengan simulasi saya pakai W%R terlihat support kuat saat ini antara 1,010-1,020 sama halnya kalau saya patok risk sekitar 25 % s/d 30

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI roadshow

2009-03-12 Terurut Topik Vic
roadshow buat apaan sih? private placement? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Henry orga...@... wrote: BUMI sedang roadshow tgl 1213 maret ini di singapore. Kira2 ada yg tahu minat investor bagaimana di hari pertama..?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fact or Fiction?

2009-03-14 Terurut Topik Vic
wib lah. di ob sini kan lokalan semua, cuma belagak inggris aja. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cumi Cabe Ijo cumie...@... wrote: Monday Indonesia time or NY time? WARNING: Cumi-cumi mengandung 1,170mg kolesterol per 10 gr, sedangkan daging ayam tanpa kulit hanya 50mg saja.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TATA JUAL KPC-ARUTMIN KE BUMI ?

2009-03-15 Terurut Topik Vic
$ 1,2 milyar. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, D Hendarman freaker2...@... wrote: Tata gak pernah beli BUMI, mereka thn 2007 beli 25% saham KPC dari BUMI. Berapa nilai transaksinya bisa check dari LK BUMI 2007, download dari website BEI. Cheers. -Original Message- From:

[obrolan-bandar] Bernanke: recession could end in '09

2009-03-15 Terurut Topik Vic
Sunday March 15, 9:07 pm ET By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer Bernanke: recession 'probably' will end this year if government stabilizes banking system WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's recession probably will end this year if the government succeeds in bolstering the banking system, Federal

[obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI LEMBU SEKILAN

2009-03-15 Terurut Topik Vic
c7. kalau memang rally berarti periodenya lebih panjang dari sekedar technical rebound. artinya butuh lebih dari sekedar ta. harus ada ca. dan bumi adalah jawaranya ca. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tjen Hartono thartono_...@... wrote: Satu lagi MBAH, BUMI akan naik mengiringi

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: MacQ Research - BUMI Resources

2009-03-17 Terurut Topik Vic
fair value 2350 tapi tp 500 (cuma) gara2 corporate governance. oh, ini sih tergantung mood ab aja. kalau lagi pingin jadi orang terkaya di indo lagi nanti juga price fv. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@... wrote: Red or black? Event ?? We reiterate

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow +2.48%

2009-03-17 Terurut Topik Vic
A surprise government report that home construction picked up in February caught traders off guard and injected a week-old stock market rally with new energy Tuesday. Stocks of homebuilders and banks jumped as bullish investors saw yet another sign that the deeply troubled economy was

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY-- layak dikoleksi buat investasi

2009-03-17 Terurut Topik Vic
rata2 saham property masih deep undervalued, nav bahkan bv. cuma elty kebanyakan saham publik ya, 62%. yg pegang publik kira2 siapa ya yg besar? apa ada hedge fund? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nyari duit nyariduit...@... wrote: Benar Pak.. Saya rajin koleksi nih..( dari harga

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY-- layak dikoleksi buat investasi

2009-03-17 Terurut Topik Vic
trade, he he.. Tapi yang jelas 78 dicoba ELTY tuh hari ini.. Salam, ND 2009/3/18 Vic victor_speran...@... rata2 saham property masih deep undervalued, nav bahkan bv. cuma elty kebanyakan saham publik ya, 62%. yg pegang publik kira2 siapa ya yg besar? apa ada hedge

Jawaban BUMI Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: Technical Analysis Challenge

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik Vic
gara2 beli 3 coal company dgn harga super premium, bumi turun dari 940 ke 470. masih ada rencana beli lagi 2 coal company, dgn harga mahal juga kayaknya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Supportnya ada di hari rabu di 470. Kemarin dan hari ini,

Jawaban BUMI Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: Technical Analysis Challenge

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik Vic
jebakan batman returns hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: +9%...bandar gocek lagi nih hehe 2009/1/16 JsxTrader jsxtra...@... Mental di 385 Mbah... come on !!! JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: Technical Analysis Challenge

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik Vic
jadi analisisnya simple: batas ar kiri. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: LOW terendah BUMI = 385 HIGH = 470 Rebound 470-385 = 85 (+22%) ini sudah diatas 10% rebound yg disaratkan. Jadi jawaban yg benar adalah = 385 Siapa yg menjawab

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Rumor ; BUMI batalkan 3 akuisisi, Nordstar gandeng Investor dari China

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik Vic
kemarin juga ada yg niup2in rumor sejenis, tapi gak bisa klarifikasi. kalau kantong kiri bisa cuan segajah dari kantong kanan kenapa harus dibatalin? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, adjies2000 ad2...@... wrote: Ada yang bisa confirmed berita ini, buy...buy

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] detikcom: BUMI Batalkan RUPSLB, Investor Ritel Tetap Galang Kekuatan

2009-01-16 Terurut Topik Vic
itu di us. di sini lain lagi ceritanya, bakrie koq dilawan hehehe. coba berhitung, di 2004 siapa yg berhutang budi sama bakrie, n sekarang ternyata sudah mau pemilu lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@... wrote: Seperti kasus Yahoo, pemilik tidak mau

[obrolan-bandar] Masalah PROVOKASI...... Re: OEN ....BUMI Rp 200

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
ob banyak tipu2, karena itu jangan gampang percaya email yg namanya jadi2an hehehe. only paranoid survives. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: Wah saya gak ada apa2nya lah Pak Yudizz...di sini banyak yg hebat2 makanya saya cinta OB [?] Memang saya sadar dunia

[obrolan-bandar] Bye-Bye Bakrie?

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
Bye-Bye Bakrie? Eric Ellis, 12.04.08, 05:00 PM EST Forbes Magazine dated December 22, 2008 Most of his wealth has disappeared, and he'll be gone from the cabinet next year, but in Indonesia, never count out Aburizal Bakrie. His business empire teeters, and his political capital seems to be

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Gerakan Mendukung Mr. OenToeNG!!!!!

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
lha, email addressnya lucu2 koq bisa dipercaya 100%. don't take them for granted. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SamrocK syamsu...@... wrote: Sempet kaget juga melihat ketidak dewasaan para member milist OB. Segala informasi disini sudah pasti tidak harus anda telan mentah-mentah dan

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI : Untuk Ibu Yang Nyangkut

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
intinya: masih banyak yg nyangkut di bumi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rofik efendi fiplan1...@... wrote: Sebelumnya saya ikut prihatin atas musibah yang menimpa ibu, meskipun saya yakin tidak hanya ibu yang mengalami, banyak sekali dan mkn lebih parah dari ibu. Tetapi saya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Take a break with NACHOS

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
she said: take a break. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Juragan Cumi cumie...@... wrote: NACHOS dibuat dari JAGUNG. Posting ini adalah pernyataan tersirat neng EL mau masak BISI. :-) On 1/17/09, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Husss, Boyz masih around !!. kekeke JT

[obrolan-bandar] Apakah Properti akan AR kanan?

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
kabarnya minggu ini bank2 bumn akan nurunin bunga kredit. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote: lps turun 50bps jadi 9,50%. http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/01/12/222144/1067237/5/bunga-penjaminan-lps-turun-ke-95 --- In obrolan-bandar

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ciputra Development (CTRA IJ, Rp240 BUY, TP Rp 500) The Growth Out Of Java Continues

2009-01-18 Terurut Topik Vic
hebat. ayo properti. bunga kredit turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hilman Kamaludin hilm...@... wrote: Regards, Hilman Kamaludin Account Executive PT Danareksa Sekuritas Jl. Medan Merdeka Selatan No. 14 Jakarta Pusat 10110 Telp. 021

[obrolan-bandar] BNI-Mandiri Pangkas Bunga Kredit

2009-01-19 Terurut Topik Vic
Jakarta - Dua bank pemerintah, PT Bank Negara Indonesia Tbk (BNI) dan PT Bank Mandiri Tbk secara bersamaan memangkas suku bunga kreditnya mulai 20 Januari 2009 sebesar 0,5% hingga 1% per tahun. Direktur Utama BNI Gatot M Suwondo mengatakan penurunan bunga kredit BNI dilakukan selain tindak lanjut

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: BUMI (TP Rp500) - Macquarie: Can't touch this

2009-01-19 Terurut Topik Vic
ini baru cara nakut2in yg cerdas hehehe. overshootnya ke berapa? 200? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendra Bujang hendra_buj...@... wrote: --- On Tue, 1/20/09, patricia.sumamp...@... patricia.sumamp...@... wrote: From: patricia.sumamp...@... patricia.sumamp...@... Subject:

[obrolan-bandar] Mobius to Invest More in China, Emerging Markets

2009-01-19 Terurut Topik Vic
By Soraya Permatasari Jan. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Mark Mobius, who oversees about $26 billion in emerging-market stocks at Templeton Asset Management Ltd., said he plans to buy more shares of consumer and commodities companies in emerging markets. Valuations are attractive, Mobius, Templeton's

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IM2 Lelet, OLT Reconnect Terus

2009-01-20 Terurut Topik Vic
yup. im2 sekarang bikin kuciwa. lelet, sering switch ke edge/gprs (yg chargenya lebih mahal). konon yg ngambil paket im2 yg paling murah speednya lebih lambat dibanding paket yg lebih mahal. speed bisa dimainin isp ya? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtrader jsxtra...@... wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CTRA atau Elty ?

2009-01-20 Terurut Topik Vic
kenapa gak dua2nya? properti masih prospektif. bunga kredit udah turun. awal feb bunga deposito bakal turun lagi, n selanjutnya bunga kredit akan turun lagi. target price: elty: 200 (cc) ctra: 500 (od), 390 (cc) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Darmawan dadiresmawa...@... wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Pemerintah dan BI Giat Kucurkan KPR

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
JAKARTA. Industri properti mendapat angin surga. Pemerintah dan Bank Indonesia (BI) sepakat mendorong perbankan agar makin giat mengucurkan Kredit Pemilikan Rumah (KPR). Dan ada Surat Keputusan Bersama (SKB) untuk kebijakan itu. Penandatanganan SKB itu berlangsung Kamis (12/2), kemarin, oleh

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI = 10 x ELTY

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
tp bumi: 550 (daisy ml) s.d 1000 (lupa siapa) tp elt: 158 (mega cap), 200 (mandiri sec), 230 (samuel sec) jadi potential gain (menurut riset) lebih bagusan elty. lagipula riset saham properti dibikin dgn asumsi bi rate akhir tahun ke 8%. padahal dgn inflasi yg diprediksi 5-6%, bi rate bisa ke 7%,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ctra

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
tp ctra: 390 (cc), 500 (od) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, swan silo swan_gro...@... wrote: ctra break darvas box Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI = 10 x ELTY

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
gak punya risetnya pak, mungkin yg lain punya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fuyi anip...@... wrote: kalau enrg pak? Pada 13 Februari 2009 09:59, Vic victor_speran...@... menulis: tp bumi: 550 (daisy ml) s.d 1000 (lupa siapa) tp elt: 158 (mega cap), 200 (mandiri sec), 230

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Pemerintah dan BI Giat Kucurkan KPR

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
, besoknya bunga kredit dan tarif angkot langsung naik. BI rate atau bensin turun, enam bulan kemudian bunga kredit atau tarif angkot baru mau ditinjau untuk diturunkan. [?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?] 2009/2/13 Vic victor_speran...@... JAKARTA. Industri properti mendapat

[obrolan-bandar] Anticipate the V

2009-02-12 Terurut Topik Vic
Anticipate the V Ken Fisher, 01.22.09, 06:00 PM EST Forbes Magazine dated February 16, 2009 The stocks that got clobbered most late in a bear market are the most likely to do well in the early stages of the next bull market. This year has gotten off to a bad start, with the SP 500 (as of Jan.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT Koneksi Im2 lemot lagi

2009-02-13 Terurut Topik Vic
ini ada excuse dari indosat. mereka pake istilah aneh2 seperti lokasi favorit sebagai alasan ketidakbecusan mereka melayani pelanggan. Bapak/Ibu pelanggan IM2 Broadband Internet yang terhormat, Kami mengucapkan terima kasih atas kepercayaan Bapak/Ibu terhadap layanan IM2 Broadband Internet.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ctra

2009-02-15 Terurut Topik Vic
hebat bener ciputra group. ctra chartnya v-shape recovery antisipasi penurunan bunga kredit. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_speran...@... wrote: tp ctra: 390 (cc), 500 (od) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, swan silo swan_groups@ wrote: ctra break darvas box

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS (TP Rp770) - CIMB: Riposte of illegal mining

2009-02-16 Terurut Topik Vic
dividen 150 kale, kan eps 280. btw, di kondisi market kayak gini banyak riset yg nakut2in ya. analisnya gak takut dosa/karma ya hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tjetjun asias...@... wrote: mungkin harga sesudah bagi deviden 250 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mbah kemana ya...

2009-02-16 Terurut Topik Vic
lagi akumulasi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, icchanks iccha...@... wrote: Tenang aja, selama warung OB masih buka berarti Mbah masih monitor kok.. Kalau sekarang Mbah masih diam mungkin cuman memang gak ada yang perlu diomongin apalagi kalau sideways gini, dulu Mbah juga biasa

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Vic
kalau indek dinaikin pasti banyak yg tp n cuci piring. pusing nih bandar heheheh. ati2 harga metal turun mayan banyak. pagi hajar kanan n siang hajar kiri kale heheh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear guys... Supaya LEBIH FAIR mari kita

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-23 Terurut Topik Vic
jemuran bandar dah pada kering blom heheheheh. udah gatel mo tp neh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2. Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA Karena pertandingan belon selesai... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HIJAU LAGI hari ini

2007-10-23 Terurut Topik Vic
hajar kanan lagi. termasuk zombi2 heheheh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sriwisnu-gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow 13,676.23 +109.26 +0.81% Nasdaq 2,799.26 +45.33 +1.65% SP 500 1,519.59 +13.26 +0.88% 10 Yr Bond(%) 4.4050% +0.0120

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ramalan cuaca BUMI buat besok

2007-10-24 Terurut Topik Vic
berarti hari ini tins n untr lagi distribusi donk --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BUMI sedang dalam periode DISTRIBUSI. Tapi meskipun ada DISTRIBUSI, harganya NAEK, kenapa: - Pertama karena bandarnya HEBAT. - BUMI dan ENRG adalah satu

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM = Ayo Naik Teruss... Mang....

2007-10-24 Terurut Topik Vic
harga metal drop lagi --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lkmn S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagi yang pegang ANTM jangan takut...kekepin ajah tuh ANTM untuk pensiun nanti...apalagi kebutuhan nikel cina diprediksi akan meningkat dan harga nikel saat ini sudah rebound dari bottom price

[obrolan-bandar] Re: DJI Future and ML loss

2007-10-24 Terurut Topik Vic
kemarin dow ijo ternyata bej merah. semalam dow merah harusnya bej ijo donk heheheh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari pagi index Asia yg lagi bagus bagusnya harus jatuh karena diperkirakan Kerugian ML akan lebih besar dari expektasi analis.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG: The RED and the GREEN area

2007-10-28 Terurut Topik Vic
regional ijo, hajar kanan bleh !!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Embah jsx-consultant@ wrote: IHSG: The RED and the GREEN area Saat ini berita kenaikan harga minyak dunia menjadi HEADLINE, pagi

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