Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
lebih tepat jari kali ya :D ini kan email... joke :D On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@yahoo.comwrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, PHâ„¢ vaulst...@... wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonable†level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question is now irrelevant. Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. “The other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,†he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. Meanwhile, a representative of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: “We welcome the fact that Bumi’s management is willing to renegotiate and seek a better price for Fajar Bumi.†Rully said that since the transactions were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose this coming Friday. “We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,†Rully said. But despite the newfound acquiescence of the company’s shareholders, doubts nevertheless persist, not to mention concerns over the future of corporate governance here as a whole, with one analyst having aptly characterized the entire affair as “nothing more than a game.†Jakarta Globe
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Jangan berantem dehh... Kalo rully bener2 bisa dibuktikan terima duit... Silahkan dimaki-maki. Kita se milis ngolok2in juga no problem. Tapi kalo lu ngga bisa buktikan YOU OWE RULLY A VERY VERY BIG APOLOGY. Minimum di publikasikan di OB. -Original Message- From: harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:04:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PHâ„¢ vaulst...@... wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonableâ€� level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question is now irrelevant. Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. “The other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,â€� he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. Meanwhile, a representative of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: “We welcome the fact that Bumi’s management is
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
santai aja bos harry, kalo menuduh orang terima suap artinya menuduh yg memberi suap juga. ini pertama kalinya KIPS BUMI bisa kolaborasi dengan manajemen BUMI untuk menjemput PH di rumahnya jika masalah ini tidak diklarifikasi. kawan team IT chatroom siap membantu melacak rumah, kantor ataupun warnet yg dipakai PH. harrywijaya81 wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, PHâ„¢ vaulst...@... wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonableâ€� level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question is now irrelevant. Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. “The other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,â€� he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. Meanwhile, a representative of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: “We welcome the fact that Bumi’s management is willing to renegotiate and seek a better price for Fajar Bumi.â€� Rully said that since the transactions were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose this coming Friday. “We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,â€� Rully said. But despite the newfound acquiescence of the company’s shareholders, doubts
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan atuh Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum Maaf yamungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok tuh...pak Admin user nya. Tks From: Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! lebih tepat jari kali ya :D ini kan email... joke :D On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ„¢ vaulst...@.. . wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu - - - Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK) . In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonable†level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question is now irrelevant. Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. “The other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,†he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. Meanwhile, a representative of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: “We welcome the fact that Bumi’s management is willing to renegotiate and seek a better price for Fajar Bumi.†Rully said that since the transactions were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose this coming Friday. “We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the affiliation issue if we
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
OK GUA RALAT DECH BUAT RULLY.. GUE CUMAN KESEL AJA KENAPA DIA CEPET BGT BERUBAH PENDAPAT. MAAF BUAT PAK RULLY. BUT PLEASE GIVE US PROPER REASON. KARENA KITA BANYAK YG SUDAH BACK YOU UP FOR THAT REASON. NOW YOU TURN US DOWN. Dari article di bawah saja sudah jelas orang sudah judge kita jelek. In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulatorâs apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â not to mention the interests of small investors â it now appears that itâs a case of âout of sight, out of mind,â with analysts and even Bumiâs minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). you see?? ...suddenly saying they are happy with decision of the capital market... Please ini sangat merusak kreabilitas bursa saham kita. Gimana Asing bisa stay lama disini dan beli di harga premium di banding dengan negara2 lain nya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... wrote: Jangan berantem dehh... Kalo rully bener2 bisa dibuktikan terima duit... Silahkan dimaki-maki. Kita se milis ngolok2in juga no problem. Tapi kalo lu ngga bisa buktikan YOU OWE RULLY A VERY VERY BIG APOLOGY. Minimum di publikasikan di OB. -Original Message- From: harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@... Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:04:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PH⢠vaulstrad@ wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: âNo Probe? No Problemâ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulatorâs apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â not to mention the interests of small investors â it now appears that itâs a case of âout of sight, out of mind,â with analysts and even Bumiâs minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumiâs purchase of three coal firms â PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders â which was never given â Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumiâs owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out â all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a âreasonableâ level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bank bni bankbni...@... wrote: gini pak ... bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ... tp jgn main nuduh aza ... apa dia d ada bukti ??? kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ??? Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan atuh Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum Maaf yamungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok tuh...pak Admin user nya. Tks From: Cougar Boy boysngi...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! lebih tepat jari kali ya :D ini kan email... joke :D On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ⢠vaulstrad@ . wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu - - - Bumi Investors Say: ââ¬ËNo Probe? No Problemââ¬â¢ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulatorââ¬â¢s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â⬠not to mention the interests of small investors â⬠it now appears that itââ¬â¢s a case of ââ¬Åout of sight, out of mind,â⬠with analysts and even Bumiââ¬â¢s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK) . In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumiââ¬â¢s purchase of three coal firms â⬠PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â⬠for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders â⬠which was never given â⬠ÃÂand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumiââ¬â¢s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out â⬠all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a ââ¬Åreasonableâ⬠level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â⬠a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the companyââ¬â¢s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question is now irrelevant. Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. ââ¬ÅThe other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,â⬠he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. Meanwhile, a representative of Bumiââ¬â¢s minority
RE: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
gak perlu buktilah Oom ... gw gak suka counter BG sih ... hehehe ... canda Oom... kalem aja lah ... ini kan OB, inget OB! Jadi ya kayak gini, kalo gak suka kan tinggal unsubscribe saja tho ... terus kalo kangen lagi ya tinggal subscribe lagi, kan cuma cepek ceng doang lah ... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: harrywijay...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:24:31 + Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bank bni bankbni...@... wrote: gini pak ... bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ... tp jgn main nuduh aza ... apa dia d ada bukti ??? kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ??? Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan atuh Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum Maaf yamungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok tuh...pak Admin user nya. Tks From: Cougar Boy boysngi...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! lebih tepat jari kali ya :D ini kan email... joke :D On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ„¢ vaulstrad@ . wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu - - - Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of â€Åout of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK) . In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †ÂÂand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a â€Åreasonable†level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required such approval had they not been completed in different years. On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the question
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
maaf pak harry. tidak ada yg perlu di lanjutkan.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@...
wrote:
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bank bni bankbnijkt@ wrote:
gini pak ...
bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ...
tp jgn main nuduh aza ...
apa dia d ada bukti ???
kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ???
Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan
atuh
Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum
Maaf yamungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok
tuh...pak Admin user nya.
Tks
From: Cougar Boy boysngirls@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
lebih tepat jari kali ya :D
ini kan email...
joke :D
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com
wrote:
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ⢠vaulstrad@ . wrote:
PH ...
kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ...
w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ...
kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn
sensitif gt donk tolol .
mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ...
rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap .
KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP .
DASAR TOLOL ...
Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin
call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang
tertentu
- - -
Bumi Investors Say: ââ¬ËNo Probe? No Problemââ¬â¢
In
2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
market regulatorââ¬â¢s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources
probe,
nothing much has changed.
However, despite the potential
damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â⬠not to
mention the interests of small investors â⬠it now appears that
itââ¬â¢s a
case of ââ¬Åout of sight, out of mind,â⬠with analysts and even
Bumiââ¬â¢s
minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision
of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency
(Bapepam-LK) .
In January, the agency launched a probe into the
Bumiââ¬â¢s purchase of three coal firms â⬠PT Darma Henwa, PT
Fajar Bumi
Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â⬠for a total of Rp 6.18
trillion
($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that
the acquisitions were overpriced.
It was also alleged that the
acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval
of Bumi shareholders â⬠which was never given â⬠ÃÂand that
some of the
coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumiââ¬â¢s owners, the Bakrie
group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements.
However,
after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of
an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was
that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp
370 billion too high.
But even here Bumi was given an easy way
out â⬠all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down
to a
ââ¬Åreasonableâ⬠level, which it says it is now in the process of
doing.
The
market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction
question, saying that since the transactions took place in different
fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â⬠a view that
many
would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the
transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa
was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi
Sakti on Jan. 7.
Capital market regulations designed to
protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to
seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10
percent of the companyââ¬â¢s revenue or 20 percent of its market
value. In
this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required
such approval had they not been completed in different years.
On
the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its
investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the
question is now irrelevant.
Indra Safitri, an independent
capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its
actions on the findings
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
maaf pak harry. saya tarik balik semua statement saya.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@...
wrote:
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bank bni bankbnijkt@ wrote:
gini pak ...
bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ...
tp jgn main nuduh aza ...
apa dia d ada bukti ???
kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ???
Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan
atuh
Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum
Maaf yamungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok
tuh...pak Admin user nya.
Tks
From: Cougar Boy boysngirls@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
lebih tepat jari kali ya :D
ini kan email...
joke :D
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com
wrote:
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ⢠vaulstrad@ . wrote:
PH ...
kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ...
w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ...
kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn
sensitif gt donk tolol .
mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ...
rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap .
KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP .
DASAR TOLOL ...
Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin
call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang
tertentu
- - -
Bumi Investors Say: ââ¬ËNo Probe? No Problemââ¬â¢
In
2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
market regulatorââ¬â¢s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources
probe,
nothing much has changed.
However, despite the potential
damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â⬠not to
mention the interests of small investors â⬠it now appears that
itââ¬â¢s a
case of ââ¬Åout of sight, out of mind,â⬠with analysts and even
Bumiââ¬â¢s
minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision
of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency
(Bapepam-LK) .
In January, the agency launched a probe into the
Bumiââ¬â¢s purchase of three coal firms â⬠PT Darma Henwa, PT
Fajar Bumi
Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â⬠for a total of Rp 6.18
trillion
($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that
the acquisitions were overpriced.
It was also alleged that the
acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval
of Bumi shareholders â⬠which was never given â⬠ÃÂand that
some of the
coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumiââ¬â¢s owners, the Bakrie
group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements.
However,
after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of
an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was
that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp
370 billion too high.
But even here Bumi was given an easy way
out â⬠all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down
to a
ââ¬Åreasonableâ⬠level, which it says it is now in the process of
doing.
The
market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction
question, saying that since the transactions took place in different
fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â⬠a view that
many
would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the
transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa
was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi
Sakti on Jan. 7.
Capital market regulations designed to
protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to
seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10
percent of the companyââ¬â¢s revenue or 20 percent of its market
value. In
this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required
such approval had they not been completed in different years.
On
the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its
investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the
question is now irrelevant.
Indra Safitri, an independent
capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its
actions on the findings
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
saya siap pertemukan anda dengan Pak Rully apa back up yang bisa anda berikan? apakah anda member KIPS BUMI? Vaulstrad wrote: OK GUA RALAT DECH BUAT RULLY.. GUE CUMAN KESEL AJA KENAPA DIA CEPET BGT BERUBAH PENDAPAT. MAAF BUAT PAK RULLY. BUT PLEASE GIVE US PROPER REASON. KARENA KITA BANYAK YG SUDAH BACK YOU UP FOR THAT REASON. NOW YOU TURN US DOWN. Dari article di bawah saja sudah jelas orang sudah judge kita jelek. In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). you see?? ...suddenly saying they are happy with decision of the capital market... Please ini sangat merusak kreabilitas bursa saham kita. Gimana Asing bisa stay lama disini dan beli di harga premium di banding dengan negara2 lain nya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... wrote: Jangan berantem dehh... Kalo rully bener2 bisa dibuktikan terima duit... Silahkan dimaki-maki. Kita se milis ngolok2in juga no problem. Tapi kalo lu ngga bisa buktikan YOU OWE RULLY A VERY VERY BIG APOLOGY. Minimum di publikasikan di OB. -Original Message- From: harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@... Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:04:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, PHâ„¢ vaulstrad@ wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonableâ€� level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise †a view that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
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Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Jangan lupa topik utamanya BUMI membeli DEWA (secara tidak langsung) di harga 354/lb. saham sementara harganya di pasar saat itu 61/lb. saham. Kalah boleh, asal jangan lupa. Jadi, untuk investasi jangka panjang, perusahaan apa saja yang masih tepercaya (nggak beli barang kemahalan, jual kemurahan, produksi di bawah normal)?
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Yang dulu beli herald gak ditanya-tanya? udah jadi apa sekarang? apakah udah mulai nambang? http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemilik.mayoritas.herald Note: berita lama Regards, DE Pada 20 Juni 2009 16:21, herman ardiyanto herman.ardiya...@gmail.commenulis: Jangan lupa topik utamanya BUMI membeli DEWA (secara tidak langsung) di harga 354/lb. saham sementara harganya di pasar saat itu 61/lb. saham. Kalah boleh, asal jangan lupa. Jadi, untuk investasi jangka panjang, perusahaan apa saja yang masih tepercaya (nggak beli barang kemahalan, jual kemurahan, produksi di bawah normal)?
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Perlu dicatat juga tuh, Pak. Masuk company profile versi investor. 2009/6/20 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Yang dulu beli herald gak ditanya-tanya? udah jadi apa sekarang? apakah udah mulai nambang? http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemilik.mayoritas.herald Note: berita lama Regards, DE
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
emang penting ya ?? berapa ya harganya.. kalau gak salah antara 2.5 - 5T 2009/6/20 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Yang dulu beli herald gak ditanya-tanya? udah jadi apa sekarang? apakah udah mulai nambang? http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemilik.mayoritas.herald Note: berita lama Regards, DE Pada 20 Juni 2009 16:21, herman ardiyanto herman.ardiya...@gmail.commenulis: Jangan lupa topik utamanya BUMI membeli DEWA (secara tidak langsung) di harga 354/lb. saham sementara harganya di pasar saat itu 61/lb. saham. Kalah boleh, asal jangan lupa. Jadi, untuk investasi jangka panjang, perusahaan apa saja yang masih tepercaya (nggak beli barang kemahalan, jual kemurahan, produksi di bawah normal)?
Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
Ini cuplikan LK BUMI 2008: Pada tanggal 31 Juli 2008, Perusahaan telah menyelesaikan akuisisi Herald dengan nilai perolehan sebesar AS$ 541.544.752. Nilai wajar aset bersih Herald pada tanggal akuisisi adalah sebesar AS$ 84.531.696. Selisih antara harga pembelian dengan nilai wajar aset bersih sebesar AS$ 457.013.056 dicatat sebagai goodwill. Meleceng sedikit, Untuk menghitung GNI kan (GDP + bunga/dividen dari negara lain - bunga/dividen ke negara lain). Nah, RI pernah punya bunga/dividen DARI negara lain nggak ya? 2009/6/20 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com berapa ya harganya.. kalau gak salah antara 2.5 - 5T
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Pak DE, Dulu saat BUMI dan ANTM saling bersaing harga membeli Herald, orang tidak peduli tuh hrg Herald mau di.deal pada hrg brp (dlm arti mahal / tidak), krn saat itu org terlena pada kondisi masih BULLISH, sehingga yg terpenting ada corporate action (dlm hal ini beli beli perusahaan lain utk ekspansi) yg bisa mendrive hrg saham yg bersaing (ANTM BUMI) ke level lebih tinggi (BUMI s/d di analisa bakal ke Rp.12 ribu). Kalau ngak salah waktu itu masing2 (BUMI ANTM) sudah meneliti Herald dgn perusahaan independent dlm menilai hrg wajar Herald. Sehingga saat hrg saham berguguran krn krisis global financial, hrg BUMI yg tertinggi Rp.8.000 terjun bebas s/d mencapai level terendah Rp.300an. Dan dgn kondisi tsb orang yg megang BUMI di hrg atas (anggap kata Rp.5.000) tentu saja TIDAK RELA BUMI melakukan corporate action dgn membeli DEWA di hrg Rp.345/shm , padahal saat itu hrg DEWA di pasaran cuma Rp.60an..ini tentu yang dipertanyakan : apa dasar BUMI beli saham DEWA lebih mahal 5x (lima kali) lebih mahal, knp ngak beli aja di pasar ? Kalau pun mau beli dgn harga premium, tentunya ngak s/d 5x lipat gitu .. S/d sekarang kayaknya adem2 aja tuh kabar soal Herald, apa sudah ditambang atau belum, tidak ada info/beritanya lagi .hehehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:26 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! Yang dulu beli herald gak ditanya-tanya? udah jadi apa sekarang? apakah udah mulai nambang? http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemilik.m ayoritas.herald Note: berita lama Regards, DE Pada 20 Juni 2009 16:21, herman ardiyanto herman.ardiya...@gmail.com menulis: Jangan lupa topik utamanya BUMI membeli DEWA (secara tidak langsung) di harga 354/lb. saham sementara harganya di pasar saat itu 61/lb. saham. Kalah boleh, asal jangan lupa. Jadi, untuk investasi jangka panjang, perusahaan apa saja yang masih tepercaya (nggak beli barang kemahalan, jual kemurahan, produksi di bawah normal)?
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Saya ngak pegang BUMI dan bukan member KIPS. Saya Cuma bingung, kenapa kok musti ketemu segala, tanya apa yg bisa dibawa. Kenapa ngak dijelasin saja apa yang benar dan tidak, kan ybs bisa posting disini. Semakin muter2 dan ribet gini, semakin orang akan bertanya tanya! Gitu aja kok repot. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aria Santoso Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:46 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! saya siap pertemukan anda dengan Pak Rully apa back up yang bisa anda berikan? apakah anda member KIPS BUMI? Vaulstrad wrote: OK GUA RALAT DECH BUAT RULLY.. GUE CUMAN KESEL AJA KENAPA DIA CEPET BGT BERUBAH PENDAPAT. MAAF BUAT PAK RULLY. BUT PLEASE GIVE US PROPER REASON. KARENA KITA BANYAK YG SUDAH BACK YOU UP FOR THAT REASON. NOW YOU TURN US DOWN. Dari article di bawah saja sudah jelas orang sudah judge kita jelek. In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). you see?? ...suddenly saying they are happy with decision of the capital market... Please ini sangat merusak kreabilitas bursa saham kita. Gimana Asing bisa stay lama disini dan beli di harga premium di banding dengan negara2 lain nya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... wrote: Jangan berantem dehh... Kalo rully bener2 bisa dibuktikan terima duit... Silahkan dimaki-maki. Kita se milis ngolok2in juga no problem. Tapi kalo lu ngga bisa buktikan YOU OWE RULLY A VERY VERY BIG APOLOGY. Minimum di publikasikan di OB. -Original Message- From: harrywijaya81 harrywijay...@... Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:04:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, PHâ„¢ vaulstrad@ wrote: PH ... kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... kekekkeke ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn sensitif gt donk tolol . mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ... rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . DASAR TOLOL ... Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after
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Kalau ngak menghasilkan uang ngapain ditanyain pak. Udah mulai nambang apa belum yah -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:26 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! Yang dulu beli herald gak ditanya-tanya? udah jadi apa sekarang? apakah udah mulai nambang? http://www.kompas. http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemi lik.mayoritas.herald com/read/xml/2008/07/18/08322630/bumi.sudah.jadi.pemilik.mayoritas.heral d Note: berita lama Regards, DE Pada 20 Juni 2009 16:21, herman ardiyanto herman.ardiyanto@ mailto:herman.ardiya...@gmail.com gmail.com menulis: Jangan lupa topik utamanya BUMI membeli DEWA (secara tidak langsung) di harga 354/lb. saham sementara harganya di pasar saat itu 61/lb. saham. Kalah boleh, asal jangan lupa. Jadi, untuk investasi jangka panjang, perusahaan apa saja yang masih tepercaya (nggak beli barang kemahalan, jual kemurahan, produksi di bawah normal)?
