I really don't understand those choices.
If (2) is chosen then you ban those countries from downloading AND go through
the BIS procedure/paperwork ? or you go through the BIS procedure ONLY if you
want to export to those countries as well?
>>FYI some PHP people seem to be freaking out about md5()
On 28 April 2010 12:50, David Bateman wrote:
> I'm not a lawyer, but have dealt with a number of them for this type of
> issue, so take what I say with a grain of salt. My understand is that your
> contribution as a single piece would be considered as being covered under
> the rules of the country
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Søren Hauberg wrote:
> Based on this discussion, we are now using option 1. (but if there are
> doubts I'll change it back, just to be certain)
My doubt was whether you were being asked to additionally assert
compliance with any additional US export restrictions.
ons, 28 04 2010 kl. 13:28 -0400, skrev Judd Storrs:
> Søren,
>
> Is this the entirety of the text that the checkbox carries or was this
> just a portion you were unsure about?
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Søren Hauberg wrote:
> >This project does NOT incorporate, access, call upo
Søren,
Is this the entirety of the text that the checkbox carries or was this
just a portion you were unsure about?
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Søren Hauberg wrote:
>This project does NOT incorporate, access, call upon, or
>otherwise use encryption of any kind, including, bu
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Carnë Draug wrote:
> On 28 April 2010 12:23, David Bateman wrote:
>> Errr, except that there exists the concept of reexportation. If Octave is
>> deemed as a projet to reside in the US (and I'd say that it does),
>> reexportation in contravention of the export co
Judd Storrs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM, David Bateman wrote:
>
>> I've never had to export to one of these six countries so don't know the
>> details, but I suspect they block almost everything... Perhaps some things
>> exported under the US ECCN EAR99 might pass but I can't be s
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM, David Bateman wrote:
> I've never had to export to one of these six countries so don't know the
> details, but I suspect they block almost everything... Perhaps some things
> exported under the US ECCN EAR99 might pass but I can't be sure, not having
> done it in
Carnë Draug wrote:
> On 28 April 2010 12:23, David Bateman wrote:
>
>> Errr, except that there exists the concept of reexportation. If Octave is
>> deemed as a projet to reside in the US (and I'd say that it does),
>> reexportation in contravention of the export controls of the original
>> coun
Judd Storrs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Carnë Draug
> wrote:
>
>> I am not spreading misinformation. David said it himself, that it's
>> only the USA who blocks these countries.
>>
>
> I don't think you understood David's response, then. Apparently, the
> US does *not* have
On 28 April 2010 12:23, David Bateman wrote:
> Errr, except that there exists the concept of reexportation. If Octave is
> deemed as a projet to reside in the US (and I'd say that it does),
> reexportation in contravention of the export controls of the original
> country (For example US -> Portuga
On 28 April 2010 12:03, Judd Storrs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Carnë Draug
> wrote:
>> I am not spreading misinformation. David said it himself, that it's
>> only the USA who blocks these countries.
>
> I don't think you understood David's response, then. Apparently, the
> US doe
Carnë Draug wrote:
> On 28 April 2010 10:54, Judd Storrs wrote:
>
>> Please read David's responses and stop spreading baseless
>> misinformation. The laws seem to be fairly uniform throughout the
>> world by international treaty. Perhaps you can tell us which country
>> you inhabit and why you
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Carnë Draug wrote:
> I am not spreading misinformation. David said it himself, that it's
> only the USA who blocks these countries.
I don't think you understood David's response, then. Apparently, the
US does *not* have a blanket ban on all software export to tho
On 28 April 2010 10:54, Judd Storrs wrote:
> Please read David's responses and stop spreading baseless
> misinformation. The laws seem to be fairly uniform throughout the
> world by international treaty. Perhaps you can tell us which country
> you inhabit and why you think these particular interna
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Carnë Draug wrote:
> Since the USA seems to be the only country to have this rule there
> would be plenty of getting around.
Please read David's responses and stop spreading baseless
misinformation. The laws seem to be fairly uniform throughout the
world by inter
On 18 April 2010 03:59, Søren Hauberg wrote:
>Hi All
>
> Carnë just mentioned that SourceForge blocks users from certain
> countries. They do this to comply with US export regulations. As a
> project administrator I can disable this blocking. This, however,
> requires that I agree to the following
ons, 28 04 2010 kl. 03:00 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> > Can we please deal with 1) before dealing with 2) ?
> >
> If telling you that you can't get around it is dealing with it, then
> consider it dealt with.
Will do :-)
Thanks for clearing up this stuff
Søren
ons, 28 04 2010 kl. 02:52 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> I think you'll find every European country has signed this treaty...
> Sorry, this one you can't blame on the US and it also wouldn't help to
> migrate octave-forge somewhere else as we'd still be subject to the
> wassenaar treaty.
Well,
ons, 28 04 2010 kl. 02:37 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> Soren, I'd say you can pretty safely say the Octave isn't using
> cyptography for the purposes of the source-forge export control check box.
Okay, thanks for the detailed reply. I have updated the project settings
to reflect this.
Thanks
Sø
Søren Hauberg wrote:
> tir, 27 04 2010 kl. 19:20 -0400, skrev Carnë Draug:
>
>> On 27 April 2010 17:11, Søren Hauberg wrote:
>> tor, 22 04 2010 kl. 07:38 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
>> > Octave includes the MD5 hashing algorithm and
>> uses /dev/random if
>> > av
Søren Hauberg wrote:
> Personally, I find the US Export control to be stupid at best, but I am
> not going to break it. I am also ridiculously low on time, so I am not
> going to spend hundreds of hours migrating to a different host unless we
> really have to.
>
Soren,
The EC export control rul
Carnë Draug wrote:
> On 27 April 2010 17:11, Søren Hauberg wrote:
>
>
>> tor, 22 04 2010 kl. 07:38 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
>>
>>> Octave includes the MD5 hashing algorithm and uses /dev/random if
>>> available in the core of Octave and there is an implementation of SHA1
>>> in the octa
tir, 27 04 2010 kl. 19:20 -0400, skrev Carnë Draug:
> On 27 April 2010 17:11, Søren Hauberg wrote:
> tor, 22 04 2010 kl. 07:38 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> > Octave includes the MD5 hashing algorithm and
> uses /dev/random if
> > available in the core of Octave and
On 27 April 2010 17:11, Søren Hauberg wrote:
> tor, 22 04 2010 kl. 07:38 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> > Octave includes the MD5 hashing algorithm and uses /dev/random if
> > available in the core of Octave and there is an implementation of SHA1
> > in the octave-forge package general.. These are
tor, 22 04 2010 kl. 07:38 +0200, skrev David Bateman:
> Octave includes the MD5 hashing algorithm and uses /dev/random if
> available in the core of Octave and there is an implementation of SHA1
> in the octave-forge package general.. These are about the only crypto
> like functions that I know
Søren Hauberg wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Carnë just mentioned that SourceForge blocks users from certain
> countries. They do this to comply with US export regulations. As a
> project administrator I can disable this blocking. This, however,
> requires that I agree to the following text:
>
> This
I'm not 100% sure (I'm still waiting for an answer from the
sourceforge engineering team), but I think people from such countries
would still be blocked from filling bug reports, commenting, making
commits or request features since it seems they can't legally register
in sourceforge.
Carnë
--
Hi All
Carnë just mentioned that SourceForge blocks users from certain
countries. They do this to comply with US export regulations. As a
project administrator I can disable this blocking. This, however,
requires that I agree to the following text:
This project does NOT incorporate, acces
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