Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:21 AM,   wrote:
> This is fantastic.
> A modern and maintained desktop... this is a great achievement.
>
> One behaviour difference between old gnome 2 and Mate :
> In dual screen configuration, maxinise a window :
> - maximise on one screen only on gnome 2
> - maximise over the 2 screens on mate.
>
> Same effect on application you can set full screen (vlc, firefox,... )

Yes but same behaviour also on Debian together with the fact that the
lower taskbar is not used as boundary so windows get under it.

>
> Best regards.
> Franck
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" 
> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
> Envoyé: Dimanche 21 Août 2016 03:53:04
> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)
>
> Peter Tribble писал 20.08.2016 18:35:
>
>> (Personally, I wouldn't expect to interact with SAN drives from an
>> installer.
>> Often I would actually pull the cables out to make sure it wasn't
>> possible.
>> The interesting case would be if people used FC drives as boot
>> devices.)
>
> This is the typical use case in our DC. We use only FC-attached devices.
>
> ---
> System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center
>
>
> ___
> oi-dev mailing list
> oi-dev@openindiana.org
> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev



-- 
---
Praise the Caffeine embeddings

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Peter Tribble писал 20.08.2016 18:35:


(Personally, I wouldn't expect to interact with SAN drives from an
installer.
Often I would actually pull the cables out to make sure it wasn't 
possible.
The interesting case would be if people used FC drives as boot 
devices.)


This is the typical use case in our DC. We use only FC-attached devices.

---
System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center


___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Peter Tribble]

Adam,

Why prompt for language when there's only one option?
>
>
> I think this has to do with the fact that we didn’t modify installer to
> reflect this. Do you think we should ship more languages or it’s fine as it
> is (+ language selection screen in that case)?
>

It just seems odd. I know in Tribblix I removed the prompt because I
*know* there's only 1 choice. Bit trickier here because you're presumably
also using the installer in cases where there would be multiple choices.

> Calling it minimal doesn't quite seem right. It's got bits of X, tcl, tk,
> cairo,
> GL, berkelydb, mariadb, apr, apr-util, gdbm, graphite, openblas, cdrtools,
> 2 copies of python, ruby, fortran, apache. One or two bits I can imagine
> being pulled in via dependencies, but a lot of this seems wrong.
>
> Doesn't have the man command (although it does have a lot of man
> pages). I would expect to be able to read man pages
>
>
> Alexander and I worked on the minimal list and we put in there we though
> was needed. The list is contained here: https://github.com/
> OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/6bb1bbacebdf2ae843ff749275ab6d
> 9d45a81ad3/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal
>

So I had a quick eyeball of this, and the following notes:

developer/dtrace/toolkit - not minimal, and has it been kept
sufficiently up to date so that the scripts work?

Do we need any/all of the fibre-channel stuff? Or infiniband?

storage/svm - does anybody use this?

system/management/intel-amt - how many people use this?

system/library/storage/ima/header-ima - headers? (generally, I would
expect a minimal install to not include any development packages)

system/install/tests - tests?

driver/network/ce - really?

media/cdrtools - not minimal

But I suspect the real issue is that the role of such a minimal iso hasn't
yet been decided, so it's not clear what its target audience is.


> I suppose the most of those packages where dragged in via dependencies.
> For packages:
>
> - runtime/python-26 it is used by pkg/illumos-gate and unless pkg in
> OmniOS is updated (we spoke to Dan about it already, but is busy with LX,
> so we can’t drop the package. Some illumos-gate consumers also need python
> 2.6)
> - runtime/python-27 is provided for the userland and it also used
> explicitly by the userland.
>
> We tried to minize the amount of packages depending on python-26, but the
> packages coming of out illumos-gate are the main consumers, so there isn’t
> really another right now.
>
> system/man was not omitted on purpose, I added it to the file list now.
>
>
>
> We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
>> snapshot (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome
>> one are enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next
>> snapshot (in 2017).
>>
>
> Presumably minimal is the new "text" iso.
>
>
> We don’t consider it to be a replacement for text as of this moment. It’s
> just a much stripped down versions of text installer and in the future,
> text installer might be deprecated. However, this hasn’t been decided yet.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
>
> ___
> oi-dev mailing list
> oi-dev@openindiana.org
> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
>



-- 
-Peter Tribble
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/19/16 12:44 AM, Michael Kruger wrote:


Can you test
pkg://userland/web/browser/firefox@45.3.0-2016.0.0.0:20160817T064143Z
from http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000 ?



Hi Alp,

I've tested this package and it looks good. Firefox can now be
controlled via the volume applet in the system tray.
This also seems to have fixed the pops and crackles I was experienced
when playing music from Jamendo, or Vevo videos on Youtube.

Volume can also still be controlled via the command line per:
https://illumos.org/man/1/audioctl


Thanks for testing, committed.

--
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Michael Kruger]

On 08/17/16 04:22 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/17/16 12:07 AM, Michael Kruger wrote:

On 08/16/16 03:50 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.


I am seeing this alsoit occurs when playing either audio or video in
firefox.
In fact, Firefox does not even show up as an active application in the
sound preferences applet (accessed by right clicking the system tray
speaker icon).


Can you test 
pkg://userland/web/browser/firefox@45.3.0-2016.0.0.0:20160817T064143Z 
from http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000 ?




Hi Alp,

I've tested this package and it looks good. Firefox can now be 
controlled via the volume applet in the system tray.
This also seems to have fixed the pops and crackles I was experienced 
when playing music from Jamendo, or Vevo videos on Youtube.


Volume can also still be controlled via the command line per: 
https://illumos.org/man/1/audioctl


Michael

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Jim Klimov]

18 августа 2016 г. 3:51:39 CEST, Michael Kruger  пишет:
>On 08/16/16 11:10 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> Hello, people.
>>
>> I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there 
>> were some issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD.
>
>Hi Alp,
>
>I ran into some issues writing the OI_GUI_experimental.usb when using 
>the old 'usbcopy' script found in the slimsource repo.
>
>See: http://pastebin.com/ZxxH6Pfe
>
>Here is another where it's working correctly (but with 
>OI-hipster-gui-20160421.usb from the April 2016 release): 
>http://pastebin.com/cABQ92t0
>
>And I think I might know why
>
>I just finished reading the Distrowatch news blurb about your Mate 
>announcement on www.openindiana.org.
>So, I went and read it and learned we can now use plain old DD to 
>created these without the need for the 1G/2G headers.
>
>Based on this new method for writing images to USB drives, I presume
>the 
>old usbcopy script will no longer work.
>And I suppose the old Windows based OpenSolaris USB Creator tool will
>no 
>longer work either.
>
>If this is true, then would it be safe to assume generic Windows and 
>Linux USB creation tools should now work?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>___
>oi-dev mailing list
>oi-dev@openindiana.org
>https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

As a random idea: there are several variants of 'dd' for windows, so if you 
have time and chance to try and document any success - would be cool ;)

Jim
--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Jean-Pierre André]

Jean-Pierre André wrote:

Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

ken mays via oi-dev писал 16.08.2016 20:18:

[...]

2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do
this by including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.


We have system/file-system/ntfsprogs with fuse support.



If you need help for this, please ask... But you will
have to tell me how to make a plugged-in device to
show in /dev/dsk, so that it can be mounted.


When plugging-in and ntfs usb key, it does show in
/devices (at a location uneasy to guess), and can be
mounted just fine.

Where is the piece of code which creates an entry
in /media and mounts vfat USB keys ?

Jean-Pierre




___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Michael Kruger]

On 08/17/16 09:51 PM, Michael Kruger wrote:

On 08/16/16 11:10 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there 
were some issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD.


Hi Alp,

I ran into some issues writing the OI_GUI_experimental.usb when using 
the old 'usbcopy' script found in the slimsource repo.


See: http://pastebin.com/ZxxH6Pfe

Here is another where it's working correctly (but with 
OI-hipster-gui-20160421.usb from the April 2016 release): 
http://pastebin.com/cABQ92t0


And I think I might know why

I just finished reading the Distrowatch news blurb about your Mate 
announcement on www.openindiana.org.
So, I went and read it and learned we can now use plain old DD to 
created these without the need for the 1G/2G headers.


Based on this new method for writing images to USB drives, I presume 
the old usbcopy script will no longer work.
And I suppose the old Windows based OpenSolaris USB Creator tool will 
no longer work either.


If this is true, then would it be safe to assume generic Windows and 
Linux USB creation tools should now work?


Thanks,

Michael




Small update to this.

The following command worked for writing the USB image to my flash drive:

sudo dd if=OI_MATE_experimental.usb of=/dev/rdsk/c7t0d0p0 bs=1024k

It wrote the image and booted on my thinkpad just fine.

One other thing to mention thoughGparted doesn't look to be happy 
with Mate. It's now core dumping.


Michael

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Adam Števko]

Hi Peter,

> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Peter Tribble  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Alexander Pyhalov  > wrote:
> 
> Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal (we 
> tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it doesn't 
> deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these are test 
> images and not official snapshots.
> 
> Well done on shifting to MATE.
> 
> Some notes on the "minimal" iso:
> 
> Why prompt for language when there's only one option?

I think this has to do with the fact that we didn’t modify installer to reflect 
this. Do you think we should ship more languages or it’s fine as it is (+ 
language selection screen in that case)?

> Calling it minimal doesn't quite seem right. It's got bits of X, tcl, tk, 
> cairo,
> GL, berkelydb, mariadb, apr, apr-util, gdbm, graphite, openblas, cdrtools,
> 2 copies of python, ruby, fortran, apache. One or two bits I can imagine
> being pulled in via dependencies, but a lot of this seems wrong.
> 
> Doesn't have the man command (although it does have a lot of man
> pages). I would expect to be able to read man pages
> 

Alexander and I worked on the minimal list and we put in there we though was 
needed. The list is contained here: 
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/6bb1bbacebdf2ae843ff749275ab6d9d45a81ad3/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal
 


I suppose the most of those packages where dragged in via dependencies. For 
packages:

- runtime/python-26 it is used by pkg/illumos-gate and unless pkg in OmniOS is 
updated (we spoke to Dan about it already, but is busy with LX, so we can’t 
drop the package. Some illumos-gate consumers also need python 2.6)
- runtime/python-27 is provided for the userland and it also used explicitly by 
the userland.

We tried to minize the amount of packages depending on python-26, but the 
packages coming of out illumos-gate are the main consumers, so there isn’t 
really another right now.

system/man was not omitted on purpose, I added it to the file list now.


> 
> We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next snapshot 
> (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one are 
> enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot 
> (in 2017).
> 
> Presumably minimal is the new "text" iso.

We don’t consider it to be a replacement for text as of this moment. It’s just 
a much stripped down versions of text installer and in the future, text 
installer might be deprecated. However, this hasn’t been decided yet.

Cheers,
Adam



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Peter Tribble]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:

>
> Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal
> (we tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it
> doesn't deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these are
> test images and not official snapshots.
>

Well done on shifting to MATE.

Some notes on the "minimal" iso:

Why prompt for language when there's only one option?

Calling it minimal doesn't quite seem right. It's got bits of X, tcl, tk,
cairo,
GL, berkelydb, mariadb, apr, apr-util, gdbm, graphite, openblas, cdrtools,
2 copies of python, ruby, fortran, apache. One or two bits I can imagine
being pulled in via dependencies, but a lot of this seems wrong.

Doesn't have the man command (although it does have a lot of man
pages). I would expect to be able to read man pages


We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
> snapshot (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome
> one are enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next
> snapshot (in 2017).
>

Presumably minimal is the new "text" iso.

Thanks,

-- 
-Peter Tribble
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Jean-Pierre André]

Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

ken mays via oi-dev писал 16.08.2016 20:18:

[...]

2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do
this by including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.


We have system/file-system/ntfsprogs with fuse support.



If you need help for this, please ask... But you will
have to tell me how to make a plugged-in device to
show in /dev/dsk, so that it can be mounted.

Jean-Pierre



___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/17/16 12:07 AM, Michael Kruger wrote:

On 08/16/16 03:50 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.


I am seeing this alsoit occurs when playing either audio or video in
firefox.
In fact, Firefox does not even show up as an active application in the
sound preferences applet (accessed by right clicking the system tray
speaker icon).


Can you test 
pkg://userland/web/browser/firefox@45.3.0-2016.0.0.0:20160817T064143Z 
from http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000 ?


--
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Aurélien Larcher писал 17.08.2016 00:11:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Michael Kruger 
 wrote:

On 08/16/16 03:50 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:


Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.



I am seeing this alsoit occurs when playing either audio or video 
in

firefox.
In fact, Firefox does not even show up as an active application in the 
sound

preferences applet (accessed by right clicking the system tray speaker
icon).


Firefox does not use pulseaudio but OSS directly.


You can control it if you select in volume properties audiohd#0 
directly.
BTW, does someone know why pulseaudio is disabled during FF build in 
userland-gate?

Will try to rebuild it with "--enable-pulseaudio"...

---
System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center


___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Udo Grabowski (IMK) писал 16.08.2016 22:50:


no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.


Could you describe in more details steps to reproduce the issue?


---
System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center


___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 18:20, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 07:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if
there are any
messages in ~/.xsession-errors?


ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not
starting
correctly; if jack has an empty password


It's jack/jack

These two lines are bad...



Connection failure: Connection refused



The program caja received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)


If I new what connection is refused...  The closest thing I find is
https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=55441 , but this looks strange.
Will look if we can reproduce this locally.



Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.
Otherwise seemingly working, performance of Youtube videos even
in 4k is decent, better than with Flash. The first firefox version
where HTML5 video stuff is implemented correctly with all functions
actually working.

So the qemu-kvm failure is specific to using a virtual machine instead
of a real one.




smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

ken mays via oi-dev писал 16.08.2016 20:18:

Alex,
I'm using the latest MATE Live-DVD ISO.
Not having as many problems 'yet' - but the key things from my point 
are:

1. Murrine GTK+ Cairo Engine is missing. Certain appearance themes
don't look correctly without it (i.e. almost any theme thumbnail with
the MATE symbol on it).Ref:
https://download.gnome.org/sources/murrine/0.98/


Will look at it.


2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do
this by including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.


We have system/file-system/ntfsprogs with fuse support.



3. Boot menu still reads '2016.04'


We are still 2016.04

---
System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center


___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[ken mays via oi-dev]

Alex,
I'm using the latest MATE Live-DVD ISO.
Not having as many problems 'yet' - but the key things from my point are:
1. Murrine GTK+ Cairo Engine is missing. Certain appearance themes don't look 
correctly without it (i.e. almost any theme thumbnail with the MATE symbol on 
it).Ref: https://download.gnome.org/sources/murrine/0.98/
2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do this by 
including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.

3. Boot menu still reads '2016.04'
Then, focus on VMware/Virtualbox support issues.
Thanks,Ken


 

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:21 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:
 

 On 08/16/16 07:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
> On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>>
 We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
 snapshot
 (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
 are enough.
 We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
 (in 2017).

 Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
 needs,
 then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).
>>>
>>> Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
>>> in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
>>> mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
>>
>> Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if
>> there are any
>> messages in ~/.xsession-errors?
>
> ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not
> starting
> correctly; if jack has an empty password

It's jack/jack

These two lines are bad...


> Connection failure: Connection refused

> The program caja received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)

If I new what connection is refused...  The closest thing I find is 
https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=55441 , but this looks strange.
Will look if we can reproduce this locally.
-- 
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev


  ___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Adam Števko]

Hi,

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)  
> wrote:
> 
> On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> 
 We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
 snapshot
 (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
 are enough.
 We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
 (in 2017).
 
 Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
 needs,
 then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).
>>> 
>>> Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
>>> in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
>>> mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
>> 
>> Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there are 
>> any
>> messages in ~/.xsession-errors?
> 
> ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not 
> starting
> correctly; if jack has an empty password, the sshd configuration
> denies logins with empty passords. But I can get a terminal after
> the Caja processes seemingly all died, the desktop still black,
> no border decoration, the terminal constantly moving to the lower
> right...after patient double typing  get these .xsession-errors:
> ---
> mate-settings-daemon MateDesktop-Warning: Call to screen_info_new
> is too frequent, skipping...
> caps.c Normally all extra capabilities would be dropped down, but
> that's impossible because PulseAudio was built without capabilities
> support.
> /usr/bin/dispswitch exiting: too few crtcs: 1
> pygobject_register_sinkfunc is  deprecated (GtkWindow,GtkInvisible,Gtkobject)
> mate-panel: couldn't get background pixmap
> Connection failure: Connection refused
> Initializing gksu extension
> The program caja received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)
> ---
> This goes on for a while, then the caja clients are killed:
> --
> Maximum number of clients reached
> caja: MateDesktop-Warning: Unable to open display :0 when setting
> background pixmap
> caja: Gdk-critical: IA__gdk_cairo_create asserttion 'GDK_IS_DRAWABLE
> (drawable) failed.
> recvmsg: Connection refused
> 
> a couple of those messages, then
> -
> process 3535 (one PID beyond the caja PID): arguments to dbus_message_unref()
> were incorrect, assertion "!message->in_cache" failed in file
> /jenkins/jobs/oi_userland/workspace/components/library/dbus/dbus-1.10.8/dbus/dbus-message.c
>  line 1719.
> This is normally a bug in some application using the D_Bus Llibrary.
> D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace.
> -
> and more of the caja background pixmap and cairo IA__... messages.
> Then a heap of Xlib messages related to the caja breakdown:
> ---
> Bug in window manager: Unexpected X error: BadLength (poly request too
> large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 815 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)
> --
> the same messages repeating endlessly with other serials like
> 832 and 835. The terminal flickers endlessly while bumping into
> the lower right corner like a dumb zombie and is nearly unusable.
> 
> Hope that helps.

I will see if I can reproduce this. Just to clarify: are you running this on 
illumos qemu-kvm?

Cheers,
Adam



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there are any
messages in ~/.xsession-errors?


ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not starting
correctly; if jack has an empty password, the sshd configuration
denies logins with empty passords. But I can get a terminal after
the Caja processes seemingly all died, the desktop still black,
no border decoration, the terminal constantly moving to the lower
right...after patient double typing  get these .xsession-errors:
---
mate-settings-daemon MateDesktop-Warning: Call to screen_info_new
is too frequent, skipping...
caps.c Normally all extra capabilities would be dropped down, but
that's impossible because PulseAudio was built without capabilities
support.
/usr/bin/dispswitch exiting: too few crtcs: 1
pygobject_register_sinkfunc is  deprecated (GtkWindow,GtkInvisible,Gtkobject)
mate-panel: couldn't get background pixmap
Connection failure: Connection refused
Initializing gksu extension
The program caja received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)
---
This goes on for a while, then the caja clients are killed:
--
Maximum number of clients reached
caja: MateDesktop-Warning: Unable to open display :0 when setting
background pixmap
caja: Gdk-critical: IA__gdk_cairo_create asserttion 'GDK_IS_DRAWABLE
(drawable) failed.
recvmsg: Connection refused

a couple of those messages, then
-
process 3535 (one PID beyond the caja PID): arguments to dbus_message_unref()
were incorrect, assertion "!message->in_cache" failed in file
/jenkins/jobs/oi_userland/workspace/components/library/dbus/dbus-1.10.8/dbus/dbus-message.c 
line 1719.

This is normally a bug in some application using the D_Bus Llibrary.
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace.
-
and more of the caja background pixmap and cairo IA__... messages.
Then a heap of Xlib messages related to the caja breakdown:
---
Bug in window manager: Unexpected X error: BadLength (poly request too
large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 815 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)
--
the same messages repeating endlessly with other serials like
832 and 835. The terminal flickers endlessly while bumping into
the lower right corner like a dumb zombie and is nearly unusable.

Hope that helps.
--
Dr.Udo Grabowski   Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT
http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php
KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology   http://www.kit.edu
Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there 
are any messages in ~/.xsession-errors?

--
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there were some
issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD. Good news is that now
most irritating issues (or at least those which I found) are fixed.
...
Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal (we
tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it doesn't
deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these are test images
and not official snapshots.

We would be glad for you to test them.

We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot (in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
--
Dr.Udo Grabowski   Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT
http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php
KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology   http://www.kit.edu
Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
___
oi-dev mailing list
oi-dev@openindiana.org
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev