Re: [OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers
On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Marco Atzeri 
mailto:marco.atz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

very complex
https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/748-Thoughts_on_bootstrapping_GHC

It is one of the cases where a new system will be almost impossible to 
bootstrap. I saw something similar in GO build system

so for me Pandoc seems a no go.

I should be clear: the build requirements here are ***only if you try to build 
a git clone***.

If you're building from an Open MPI distribution tarball, the man pages will be 
pre-built and included in the tarball -- no pandoc is needed (just like we do 
with GNU Flex, GNU Autotools, ... etc.).

So I should re-phrase my question: do you ever have the need to build Open MPI 
from a git clone?  And if so, would having pandoc available -- like Flex / 
Autotools -- be a problem?

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Re: [OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Marco Atzeri

Am 14.04.2020 um 21:35 schrieb Marco Atzeri:

Am 14.04.2020 um 20:22 schrieb Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers:
On Apr 14, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Marco Atzeri  
wrote:



Open MPI packagers --
We would like to require "pandoc" for building Open MPI >=v5.0.x 
from a git clone, at least version v1.12.

Is this ok with all of you?


give me time to try build it.

Currently is not available on cygwin



Ok.  It may be a little annoying, because it is written in Haskell, so 
you have to also have the GNU Haskell compiler.




that also is missing on cygwin.

Let me see if I can come with something usable, but is seems on
the complex side.

Regards
Marco


very complex
https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/748-Thoughts_on_bootstrapping_GHC

It is one of the cases where a new system will be almost impossible to 
bootstrap. I saw something similar in GO build system


so for me Pandoc seems a no go.

Regards
Marco

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Re: [OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Marco Atzeri

Am 14.04.2020 um 20:22 schrieb Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers:

On Apr 14, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Marco Atzeri  wrote:



Open MPI packagers --
We would like to require "pandoc" for building Open MPI >=v5.0.x from a git 
clone, at least version v1.12.
Is this ok with all of you?


give me time to try build it.

Currently is not available on cygwin



Ok.  It may be a little annoying, because it is written in Haskell, so you have 
to also have the GNU Haskell compiler.



that also is missing on cygwin.

Let me see if I can come with something usable, but is seems on
the complex side.

Regards
Marco
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Re: [OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers
On Apr 14, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Marco Atzeri  wrote:
> 
>> Open MPI packagers --
>> We would like to require "pandoc" for building Open MPI >=v5.0.x from a git 
>> clone, at least version v1.12.
>> Is this ok with all of you?
> 
> give me time to try build it.
> 
> Currently is not available on cygwin


Ok.  It may be a little annoying, because it is written in Haskell, so you have 
to also have the GNU Haskell compiler.

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Re: [OMPI packagers] New RTE for OMPI v5

2020-04-14 Thread Ralph Castain
 Just pinging you all to ensure you got this. I need to know if we need 
to coordinate an official PRRTE release to coincide (and sync) with the release 
of OMPI v5.0, or if you are okay with just using the embedded PRRTE included 
with the OMPI v5.0 tarball.

If it helps, PRRTE depends upon hwloc, libevent, and PMIx - none of which are 
internally embedded.

Thanks
Ralph


> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Ralph Castain  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I just wanted to alert you to the fact that we are replacing the ORTE runtime 
> environment in Open MPI with an external package called PRRTE ("PMIx 
> Reference RunTime Environment"). We will be including a copy of that package 
> in the OMPI v5 tarball, just as we do libevent, hwloc, and PMIx.
> 
> PRRTE historically has not been generating official releases - there is an 
> old v1.0, but nothing on a regular release sequence. As part of this change 
> in OMPI, the PRRTE folks will begin generating official releases that OMPI 
> will use in their releases. So there will be correlation between the packages.
> 
> My question to you is: is this a package you would prefer to distribute 
> separately (as you do for PMIx and friends), or shall we just leave it as an 
> included package? PRRTE does get used by a fairly small community of people 
> at the national labs and a couple of universities, but it by no means has as 
> wide-ranging a following as OMPI.
> 
> Just need to know if we need to add a --with-prrte option to OMPI's configure 
> code so one could point it at an external PRRTE installation.
> Ralph
> 
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Re: [OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Marco Atzeri

Am 14.04.2020 um 18:02 schrieb Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers:

Open MPI packagers --

We would like to require "pandoc" for building Open MPI >=v5.0.x from a git 
clone, at least version v1.12.

Is this ok with all of you?



give me time to try build it.

Currently is not available on cygwin

Regards
Marco
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[OMPI packagers] Open MPI v5.0 packaging change: require pandoc

2020-04-14 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via ompi-packagers
Open MPI packagers --

We would like to require "pandoc" for building Open MPI >=v5.0.x from a git 
clone, at least version v1.12.

Is this ok with all of you?

-- 
Jeff Squyres
jsquy...@cisco.com

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