ICU (was Hunspell and MPL license)

2011-07-20 Thread Javier Sola
If I remember correctly and unless it has changed, some patches were applied to ICU during the build. This required a specific version of ICU to which the patches were applied, and this is why the ICU source was kept inside the OOo source (I believe). Javier Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Jürgen, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 09:44:48 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: maybe i got something wrong but i think in the end we decided to move forward with the existing channel #dev.openoffice.org I wouldn't name that a decision, and that's probably why there's some confusion, but yes,

Re: single repository status

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Michael, On Tuesday, 2011-07-19 23:26:48 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: unfortunately it seems none of the tools that convert from HG or git to SVN can create SVN branches with SVN mergeinfo (necessary in order to be able to merge the branches back into the trunk). there are some tools to

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi all, 2011/7/20 Eike Rathke o...@erack.de: Hi Jürgen, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 09:44:48 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: maybe i got something wrong but i think in the end we decided to move forward with the existing channel #dev.openoffice.org I wouldn't name that a decision, was that a

RE: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Eike Rathke [mailto:o...@erack.de] Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 7:57 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: IRC Channel? Hi Jürgen, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 09:44:48 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: maybe i got something wrong but i think in

Re: Debian build

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Stahl
On 20.07.2011 12:16, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi imacat, On Tuesday, 2011-07-19 12:17:44 +0800, imacat wrote: As far as I know, the current OpenOffice.org HG source does not build on Debian. There was at least one breakage in avmedia/source/gstreamer, but with the copyleft patch to configure

Re: A first try to remove some copyleft components from the build

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Mathias, On Tuesday, 2011-07-19 23:32:50 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote: Builds fine on Debian Squeeze unxlngx6.pro, but I didn't get any install set, not even a .tar.gz, this helped: cd $SRC_ROOT/instsetoo_native/util dmake openoffice_en-US PKGFORMAT=installed Interesting, I got

Fw: We need your help

2011-07-20 Thread Haji Gul Wahaj
Hello all, As OpenOffice.org was accepted as Apache incubator project, therefore I would like to subscribe the list for further processes. My name is Haji Gul Wahaj, Pashto NLC Project lead, I also add my language the names of Volunteers, thanks, WAHAJ Haji Gul

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Javier, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 15:27:03 +0700, Javier Sola wrote: If I remember correctly and unless it has changed, some patches were applied to ICU during the build. This required a specific version of ICU to which the patches were applied, Correct, though with the update to ICU 4.*

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Manfred, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 12:11:51 +0200, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: forward with the existing channel #dev.openoffice.org I wouldn't name that a decision, was that a decision by - what Apache is calling - lazy consensus? Probably a good example ;-) Eike -- PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Stahl
On 20.07.2011 13:41, Eike Rathke wrote: The most problematic is the RPATH for URE patch, but I have no idea anyway how to proceed with libstdc++.so.6 and libgcc_s.so.1 that so far were distributed with the URE and are LGPL. If we don't, then the patch would be moot. that is an interesting

Re: Slides and Video of my Apache Way talk at ODF Plugfest

2011-07-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Thanks for the links to your presentation. Even with the terrible sound in the hall I can imagine that you had fun to present what and how Apache is doing. Marcus Am 07/19/2011 04:33 PM, schrieb Ross Gardler: I've uploaded the slides of my presentation to the ODF Plugfest to slideshare

Re: single repository status

2011-07-20 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 12:30:47 AM Subject: Re: single repository status FWIW; When merging the branches most of the CWS information will be lost anyways .. won't it? I have seen

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Michael Stahl m...@openoffice.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 8:18:10 AM Subject: Re: ICU On 20.07.2011 13:41, Eike Rathke wrote: The most problematic is the RPATH for URE patch, but I have no idea anyway how to proceed

Re: Hunspell and MPL license

2011-07-20 Thread Richard E. Breed IV
Hey folks...a friend used my laptop, and I am getting tons of emails I do not understand from a really smart interesting group of folks...but, I need to unsubscribe and there's no such button at the bottom, can you help? THanks..chard Richard Edwards Breed IV --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Ross

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Richard E. Breed IV
Hey folks...a friend used my laptop, and I am getting tons of emails I do not understand from a really smart interesting group of folks...but, I need to unsubscribe and there's no such button at the bottom, can you help? THanks..chard Richard Edwards Breed IV Richard Edwards Breed IV ---

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1 to Gavin's suggestions. I would keep the IRC channels as-is for the time being; from the infrastructure perspective Apache doesn't have an IRC server, so it's purely a community decision. I think in the long term - namely, once the podling has a release in progress, the group of

Re: SVN tutorial..really facinating watching your OS team...Open Source, but...

2011-07-20 Thread Richard E. Breed IV
Hi there, Watching an opensource team is too cool, but: ...a friend used my laptop, and I am getting tons of emails I do not understand from a really smart interesting group of folks...but, I need to unsubscribe and there's no such button at the bottom, can you help? Thanks..chard Richard

Re: SVN tutorial..really facinating watching your OS team...Open Source, but...

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Richard, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 06:45:34 -0700, Richard E. Breed IV wrote: ...a friend used my laptop, and I am getting tons of emails I do not understand Lent the laptop and the mail account to a friend? Well.. from a really smart interesting group of folks... thanks but, I need

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: [...] At this point I would suggest therefore continue with #[dev.]openoffice.org channels at don’t worry about #ooo-dev for now. Thanks a lot for all the replies. As there has been a question about what

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: Once this is cooked, I'm eager for us to pick up the threads on trademark enforcement against subscription fraud abusers of the trademarks. See http://www.itworld.com/security/182757/floss-accept-no-substitutes for an

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Eike; FWIW, building ICU 4.8 on FreeBSD required a patch for the memory issue I reported in an older thread. This kind of fixes are better handled by distributions .. and certain OO forks already do this. cheers, Pedro. --- On Wed, 7/20/11, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: ... Hi Javier,

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 14:18 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: that is an interesting point: we currently ship binaries of C++ runtime libraries in the installation sets. One thing that escapes a lot of people's notice is that most C++ app out there on Linux links vs. crt1.o crti.o crtbegin.o

Re: IRC Channel?

2011-07-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Christian, On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 16:17:19 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: As there has been a question about what commands IZBot provides, here's a short summary. Great, thanks. Eike -- PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail preferred in all private communication. Key ID: 0x293C05FD -

Unsubscribe (was Re: ICU)

2011-07-20 Thread TJ Frazier
On 7/20/2011 09:42, Richard E. Breed IV wrote: Hey folks...a friend used my laptop, and I am getting tons of emails I do not understand from a really smart interesting group of folks...but, I need to unsubscribe and there's no such button at the bottom, can you help? THanks..chard Richard

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 14:18 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: that is an interesting point: we currently ship binaries of C++ runtime libraries in the installation sets.        One thing that escapes a lot of people's

THanks TJ

2011-07-20 Thread Richard E. Breed IV
The name he gave?  I gave them the possibles, and thanks!  Keep up your good works - as the earth and the evolution of civilization is also: Open Source! Respectfully gratefully yours, I am Chard Richard Edwards Breed IV --- On Wed, 7/20/11, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: From:

Re: Oracle blogs on OOo being contributed?

2011-07-20 Thread Malte Timmermann
That's a pity - GullFOSS really should stay available as an archive. I will try to find someone at Oracle who can help with this... Malte. On 19.07.2011 10:55, Herbert Duerr wrote: I'm wondering whether the Oracle owned blogs on OOo will be contributed to the Apache project too? E.g. having

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-20 Thread Malte Timmermann
Cool - thanks for clarification! :) Malte. On 19.07.2011 01:54, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: Hi Erik, thanks for clarifications :) Some questions below... On 14.07.2011 05:09, Yong Lin Ma wrote: ... We are willing to

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, System libraries are covered by exceptions to the GPL and even the FSF have written in a FAQ that those don't taint anything in userland. This does remind me that it's really desirable to be able to build OO with clang: not exactly due to the licensing but for cleanliness and portability.

Re: ICU

2011-07-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: This does remind me that it's really desirable to be able to build OO with clang: not exactly due to the licensing but for cleanliness and portability. I tried some time earlier this year, building OOo's trunk with a trunk clang on Mac OS

[PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-20 Thread Rob Weir
Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I invite them to join the discussion on gene...@incubator.apache.org.

How to unsubscribe (was Re: Hunspell and MPL license)

2011-07-20 Thread Ross Gardler
To unsubscribe send a mail to ooo-dev-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org and confirm by following the instructions in the mail you receive in response (and don't lend your laptop to people ;-) Ross On 20 July 2011 14:41, Richard E. Breed IV whitehous...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey folks...a friend used

Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-20 Thread Wolf Halton
+1 On Jul 20, 2011 4:29 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Junge
Am 20.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Shane Curcuru: [...] Andrew (or whoever): how/when can we get the submissions to that webform? http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=31881 I've contacted the person who I think was responsible before. I'm actually wondering if and how we

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Junge
Am 20.07.2011 00:51, schrieb Andrew Rist: I'm still getting requests now and again from persons who want to use the trademark OpenOffice.org for various reasons. In former times I have been pointing them to a web form that Oracle was providing. So, my questions are: - Is the OOo trademark

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Danese Cooper
Well, after a policy is decided on, I'd suggest we publish it along with a request for permission link that goes to a special list in this PPMC of people willing to moderate the OOo trademark policy. That's how OSI, Mozilla, Wikimedia and a few other projects I can think about do it. One nice to

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Shane Curcuru
Thanks for the info. Note that it would be helpful if people interested in working with trademarks read the Apache policies, as well as our growing list of FAQs: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/ Part of my strategy is to attempt to cover

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Peter Junge
Am 20.07.2011 07:57, schrieb Simon Phipps: Once this is cooked, I'm eager for us to pick up the threads on trademark enforcement against subscription fraud abusers of the trademarks. See http://www.itworld.com/security/182757/floss-accept-no-substitutes for an overview of the issue. At Sun, we

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Andy Brown
Danese Cooper wrote: Well, after a policy is decided on, I'd suggest we publish it along with a request for permission link that goes to a special list in this PPMC of people willing to moderate the OOo trademark policy. That's how OSI, Mozilla, Wikimedia and a few other projects I can think

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-20 Thread Andy Brown
Shane Curcuru wrote: Thanks for the info. Note that it would be helpful if people interested in working with trademarks read the Apache policies, as well as our growing list of FAQs: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/ Part of my