New committer: Khoem Sokhem

2012-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Khoem Sokhem, khoemsokhmen@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Jianyuan Li

2012-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Jianyuan Li, lijiany@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Stuart Swales

2012-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Stuart Swales, sswales@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Lin Yuan

2012-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Lin Yuan, yuanlin@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Sun Ying

2012-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Sun Ying, sunying@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Michal Hriň

2012-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Michal Hriň, hrin@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

2012-08-02 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 05:31 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: 2012-07-01 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster As of the end of day, 2012-07-01, the Apache OpenOffice podling has 101 committers, with 72 on the PPMC

RE: Definition of draw:angle in ODF1.2 does not fit to implementation

2012-08-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Armin Le Grand [mailto:armin.le.gr...@me.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 02:21 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Definition of draw:angle in ODF1.2 does not fit to implementation Hi Dennis, On 30.07.2012 22:21, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > (This i

RE: Definition of draw:angle in ODF1.2 does not fit to implementation

2012-07-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There appear to be three considerations: 1. What is type and unit of draw:angle in the element? In ODF 1.0, ODF 1.1, and ISO/IEC 26300:2006 (now aligned with ODF 1.1), the type is integer and there is no explanation of the scale of the unit. ODF 1.2 gives special attention to the integer

RE: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think, from the standpoint of AOO community, being an Apache committer is probably something to leave for an ASF T-shirt, if that is ever done at all. It might be better to leave such fine-grained details among AOO supporters and contributors to nametags or something similar (pins or sticker

RE: [DISCUSS][CALC] String content to numeric value

2012-07-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are several matters here. First, the rules for OpenFormula apply to literals as argument and to references to cells where the value is of type text and the expected type is Number. It does not apply to how *entered* values are converted. In fact, there is no guidance at all about how *e

RE: Install developer build side by side with regular version instead of overwriting it

2012-07-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Unless there is specific provision for side-by-side installs, there will be conflicts with two Windows installs using/replacing the same user profile. At the moment, the only differentiation is that they are associated with OpenOffice 3 (not even 3.4). Of course, the new install might well clo

RE: Coding guideline or common rules

2012-07-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've seen the comment about SCMs being sufficient for tracing the provenance of code and the changes that are made. That puzzles me. - History doesn't appear in source-code tarballs. - It requires the original SCM repository or a history-preserving port of the SCN to be available to intereste

RE: [UX] Review of MS Office 2013 UI

2012-07-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ice WebApps available in browsers are very handy for confirmation of document interchange problems. This is another way to convert documents between formats and also confirm what documents look like in the Office applications, so long as WebApp features are sufficient. - Dennis -Orig

RE: [UX] Review of MS Office 2013 UI

2012-07-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
What I find interesting is the fact that inexpensive upgrades from Windows XP to Windows 8 will be available. I have no idea how many XP configurations will qualify as able to run Windows 8 though. There will be some sort of Windows 8 Compatibility Advisor program for qualifying machines f

RE: Community over Code: Basics of Brand and Trademarks

2012-07-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ssage- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:25 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Community over Code: Basics of Brand and Trademarks On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Shane Curcuru made a presentation at OSCON tod

Community over Code: Basics of Brand and Trademarks

2012-07-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Shane Curcuru made a presentation at OSCON today about "Managing Community Open Source Brands." The slides are much nicer than that title [;<). You can get them from this blog page: . There is useful, direct material that can be appli

RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are invited to be committers on AOOi. It is derived from a model document that is to be found on the Apache site: Hello , The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) hereby offers you comm

RE: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
----Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 18:13 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Suggestion - file format The setting of file associations, and there removal, are generally during install and uninstall. I've

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Dave, I cc-d legal about the placing of an ASF Copyright on pages, something Rob suggested and you seconded. I was not intending to invite anything about the terms of service, etc. Sorry about that, - Dennis PS: There is a LEGAL JIRA issue about ToU for AOOi but it has gone nowhere AFAIK.

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I suggest that one not be so careless about asserting ASF copyright on third party materials. Why does this meme persist? Please consult Legal before doing anything so outrageous. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, July 16, 20

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to add to this conversation. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 04:50 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I am not the

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
of Service on Forums On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Um, yes, it definitely is the ASF that should be standing behind the ToU. > They're the only legal entity. > > Of CollabNet ToU, I know not. The terms.mdtext that Kay found are very much

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
subdomains. incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg is a different game. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 17:44 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Kay Well, just to prove to myself that I can make use of the ASF CMS Bookmarklet, I edited the terms.html page. [I didn't trigger publication though, so you may have to find them in the staging place.] Here are the essential changes I made: I eliminated AOO-PPMC as the authority, since it is

RE: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ur community folks. ----- Original Message - > From: Dennis E. Hamilton > To: 'Joe Schaefer' ; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:00 PM > Subject: RE: Java download link on AOO site > > > > > -Original Message

RE: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site The thing is Dennis, it is self-defeating for the org to fund my work on the CM

RE: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Joe, That's not why I provide documentation. I don't know why Hagar invests all of the effort he does in tending the English-language Community Forums. I doubt it is self-defense. I think the present misunderstanding may be related to different pictures of the worlds each of us lives in. P

RE: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The setting of file associations, and there removal, are generally during install and uninstall. I've not seen this at other startups of productivity software. (The exceptions are default browser and default mail handler when a starting application notices that it is not the default.) For AOO

RE: Problem with page break in export to rtf

2012-07-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
>From the RTF Specification version 1.9.1 (published in 2008): \pagebb is for "Break Page before the paragraph." It is a paragraph-formatting property. It can appear anywhere in the body of a paragraph, not just at the beginning. It is also inheritable onto subsequent paragraphs until a para

RE: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am concerned that a bad behavior is being suggested. Considerations: 1. Apache OpenOffice does not "own" the ODF file-format extensions, ODT, ODP, ODS, etc. (OpenOffice.org did not either.) 2. It is rude to take over those associations on install if they are already associated with a diff

RE: comments.apache.org

2012-07-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on piloting this on some site page. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 16:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: comments.apache.org On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jul 9, 2012, at 3

New committer: Chao Huang

2012-07-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Chao Huang, hchao@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

RE: OpenOffice in Java

2012-07-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Java On 05.07.2012 22:04, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 um 19:57 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: ... cut ... >> 3. Are you aware that the tendency is to remove Java dependencies from >> OpenOffice? I don't know the reasoning, but it is happening. AFAICT the

OSCON Pre-conference Session for Apache OpenOFfice

2012-07-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are preconference activities on June 16-17 preceding OSCON in Portland, Oregon. See . The Tuesday, 9am Programming & Productivity Mini BarCamp is offered for Apache OpenOfice (incubatng) and Apache DeltaSpike (incubating). It migh

RE: [Bug 25920] test issue

2012-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Um, for automatically posting commit information to the issues they apply to? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:58 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Incubator Subject: Re: [Bug 25920] test issue I'm curious abou

RE: OpenOffice in Java

2012-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't want to discourage you, but there is need to look at the practical issues around rehosting the OpenOffice code base. Help us to understand your perspective better: 1. Why do you care what Apache OpenOffice is written in? Is there a direct personal concern or is this some general consid

RE: Java

2012-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are already open-source Java-based viewers for some level of ODF support. A few run on Android, for example. These are not browser-installed though. Perhaps you would like to connect with one of those developments and see how easy it is, or is not, to use via JavaFX or an equivalent. T

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
rms of use definitely need to be dated and back issues available. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 06:50 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dennis E

RE: Google Play [A]OO

2012-07-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If I understand the Google Store page, this product predates any release from AOOi. The code is under GPL3+ and has not been touched on GitHub for 11 months. It is a front end to JOpenDocument (LGPL3+ since February, 2012). I wonder, in a case like this, whether there is more downside than ups

RE: reset my password

2012-07-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I believe an additional difficulty for Hongyun An is that he no longer has the use of the e-mail address that his hyan@ apache.org e-mail account forwards to. (I also note that mail I send to hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn always bounces.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: hongyun.an [mailto:h

RE: Terms of Service on Forums

2012-07-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Rob, Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing. Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on the web site. While there is a license grant for non-code and other places where no other license is applied, the license is also to "all Users". @Rob, @Drew, @Kay I create

RE: [Review|Discussion]For Ideas and Comments on the Vision of Writer's Track Changes Improvement

2012-07-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
12 at 12:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > Because of this, it is important to understand how your proposed Track > Changes Improvement will be reflect in the ODF 1.2 documents consumed and > produced by Apache OpenOffice at this time. That is, what needs to be done >

RE: [Review|Discussion]For Ideas and Comments on the Vision of Writer's Track Changes Improvement

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I have some concerns. First, the meta-requirements Wiki page was last updated on 2012-03-12 and there has been on-going turmoil at the ODF TC on which of three proposals will be refined into an ODF 1.3 improvement. There is no resolution, although there is some major discussion to occur in th

RE: Medal from Swedish computer magazine

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Nice medal. I notice a couple of things. Their OpenOffice page features OO.o 3.3.0. They do link to sv.openoffice.org (landing at www.openoffice.org/sv/) though. That Swedish page of ours is out of date -- the latest news, apart from the 3.4.0 banner at the top, is on the release of 3.1. T

RE: [Calc][Discuss]Interoperability with Excel for SUMIF, COUNTIF, COUNTBLANK, DCOUNT, DSUM, ... with empty cells and "" and ="" empty string criteria.

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Andrew, See latest comments on https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=65221 I agree with orw that the first goal should be to align with OpenFormula, and that is specific about the use of Criteria in SUMIF, COUNTIF, etc., as you saw in section 4.11.8. In the case that there needs to

2012-07-01 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
0 authz (awaiting completion of ooo authorization) 18 PPMC? (waiting for follow-up joining of PPMC) 96 complete (nothing further required) 32 other (some special completion cases, declined, etc.) 147 TOTAL -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: T

New committer: Liu Zhe

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Liu Zhe, liuzhe@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New committer: Kevin Grignon

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Kevin Grignon, kevingrignon@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

RE: [HELP]How to get

2012-07-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The authorization to make commits (use https: SVN URL) should now be working. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Zhe Liu [mailto:aliu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 00:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [HELP]How to get oops! sorry for messing the title up. Le

New committer: De Bin Lei

2012-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer De Bin Lei, leidb@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

RE: SVN mistake, Sorry

2012-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
that there is work going on at <http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/branches/AOO34> as an alternative, depending what you are interested in. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 12:32

RE: SVN mistake, Sorry

2012-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Risto, I confirm your observation about the aoo-3.4.1 src.zip. I downloaded a00-3.4.1-incubating-src.zip and there is something peculiar. WinZip reports only 948 files for a total of 5,483kB. But the zip is 357MB. I did a WinZip test and received a warning about the central directory not hav

RE: SVN mistake, Sorry

2012-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I deleted the accidental /incubator/ooo/trunk%20ooo/ commit. One way to avoid accidental commits is to use the http: (not https:) URL for the repository. This will allow SVN Checkout and SVN Update but SVN Commit will not be allowed. I'm checking the 3.4.1 src.zip now. - Dennis PS: The way

RE: [IMPORTANT][Call for UX review] [Windows 8 certification]Test for "Section 11 Apps must support multi-user sessions" is not tested by Windows App Certification Kit

2012-06-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
4 hours is too short. This is an international project with contributors in different time zones around the globe. For example, when you posted this message, it was 01:26 where I am (utc-0700). I suggest that you either do CTR (commit it and be prepared for it to be rolled back, however unlik

RE: Re: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Better yet, set the mime type to also specify the UTF-8 encoding. in SVN config [auto-props] Use this for example: *.xsl = svn:mime-type=application/xml;;charset=UTF-8 There should be no problem with that. -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday

RE: Must use the incubating qualifier

2012-06-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, I think the description for use of the "Get it Here" image and button is clear. Thanks Rob, I also strongly agree that it leads to a download page and does not initiate a download directly. I am disagreeing with those who think the button should initiate download. It is important to find

RE: Must use the incubating qualifier

2012-06-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/get-aoo-300x100-icv.png Let me know what folks, //drew > > On Saturday, 23 June 2012, Dennis E. Hamilton > > @ acm.org > wrote: > > I think it would be good and wait until the original reporter identifies > what the specific infraction is

RE: Must use the incubating qualifier

2012-06-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think it would be good and wait until the original reporter identifies what the specific infraction is and what its cure is. One part of the complaint is how AOOi is mentioned in tweets by @TheASF. Those are not, as far as I am aware, anything under our control whatsoever. I would not dispe

RE: [CODE]: update code signing for Windows

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Installing a small .exe is even better. Hello World is always a good choice. The .exe and the installer both must be signed, though not necessarily at the same time. -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:06 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apac

RE: [DISCUSS]What is the criteria for 3.4.1 release blocker?

2012-06-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think safety is of high value. That includes security issues and also data loss/corruption. The last includes crashers that result in unrecoverable loss of work. Hidden loss of work and document corruption that does not appear until the document is opened later is particularly serious. -

RE: Distribution of post times for ooo-dev

2012-06-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you consider timezone offsets, the majority of posts are when Europeans are still awake, North and South American participants are in their day, and in the slow tail into early morning, the Far East may add a little. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhyt...@

RE: Draft Blog Post: 5 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2012-06-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Nice one. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 19:15 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Draft Blog Post: 5 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=5_million_downl

RE: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 sounds like a plan - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 07:59 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; p...@apache.org Subject: Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process) On Mon, Jun 1

RE: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
is too big and needs much more contributors than other projects. We also trust committers who have no idea how the AOO codes works won't mess things up because they would never bother to change the code. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I only know the principle

RE: [Call-for-​​Review][C​alc]Last argument of formula should not be removed

2012-06-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for the patch, Zhang Lu, I believe you are correct although there is an ambiguity. I checked the OpenFormula specification, and it definitely allows empty parameter slots in parameter lists, including at the beginning and the end. (I think there is a bug in the empty first-position cas

RE: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:mayo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Yong Lin Ma Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 19:18 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I just reali

RE: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just realized that there is a principle around the election of committers that may have been lost sight of. Here is something to consider: The classical case for someone becoming a committer is that they can more-easily do something they are already doing. The usual example: instead of subm

RE: UOF2.0-wiki

2012-06-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I notice that the wiki page uses "context.xml" where ODF uses "content.xml". Is that correct? - Dennis -Original Message- From: hongyun.an [mailto:hongyun...@cs2c.com.cn] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 00:12 To: ooo-dev Subject: UOF2.0-wiki hello:everyone: Here is the UOF2.0-wiki, ht

RE: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
and AOO 2012/6/12 Dennis E. Hamilton : > Predictably, I prefer approach I on first principles: > Never derail the train that's running. I think this is fundamental: big changes on short times will give enormous problems to the current user base, not only because the obvious need to lear

RE: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Predictably, I prefer approach I on first principles: Never derail the train that's running. >From that perspective, there's all of this: - All of the developers and many testers and others know how to build AOO 3.4.0 including people who are working from the source tarball and the folks

RE: [AOO Blog]Feeds do not work

2012-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If the objectionable character was a curved apostrophe in the title of the first post to the AOO blog, it means that it got there from Windows Live Writer, the authoring tool I use for directly creating posts to the AOO and other blogs. I must be more careful what characters I include in blog-p

RE: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 @Andre I think unpacking the setup files into a desktop folder is ridiculous. It is also never explained that it is safe to deleted that folder after the install succeeds. If this procedure is continued, it should default to a sub-folder in the active user's default TEMP folder. For my in

RE: Re: Open the UOF2.0 source codes

2012-06-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@hongyun.an Yes, you are Apache committer hyan@ a.o. You may be required to reset your password in order to make commits to SVN. There was a general requirement to change passwords as the result of a recent security issue. Simply go to and follow the change-password

New Committer: RGB.ES

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member RGB.ES, rgb-es@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New PPMC Member: Yuri Dario

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Yuri Dario to the PPMC. The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

New Committer: Risto Jääskeläinen

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Risto Jääskeläinen, ristoi@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software

New Committer: Roberto Galoppini

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Olaf Felka, olaf@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation

RE: New Committer: Antón Méixome

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Antón Méixome, meixome@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foun

New Committer: Roberto Salomon

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Roberto Salomon, salomon@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Fo

New Committer: Albino Neto

2012-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Albino Neto, bino28@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundat

RE: [DISCUSS] Pootle and New Contributor Category

2012-06-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
On the June Status report thread, Ross raises this concern: "The issue here should not be a different class of contributor it should be how to facilitate a different type of contribution and thus bootstrap their involvement in the project. Please don't create an artificial layer of hierarchy in o

[DISCUSS] Pootle and New Contributor Category

2012-06-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on this discussion so far. I was skeptical but I favor how this is going. Also, the anonymous contribution to pootle is a no-no. - Dennis PS: Changing to the [DISCUSS] that is called for and to have it be visible. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sen

RE: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-06-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > @Dave, > > I see no reaso

RE: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-06-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 05:54 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > @Dave, > > The people in Pending=PPMC? state

RE: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-06-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
..@apache.org Subject: Re: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster Dennis, Thanks for this. Do you have a copy of this with actual names? It would be really helpful to me with respect to identifying active/inactive PPMC members for graduation. Ross On 6 June 2012 04:05, Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-06-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
left in the PPMC? state? To me that ought to expire like was done for Initial Committers. Are you including those who were only offered Committer status? Regards, Dave On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > As of the end of day, 2012-06-05, the Apache OpenOffice podling

2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
complete (nothing further required) 30 other (some special completion cases, declined, etc.) 141 TOTAL -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 08:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: 2012-02-01 PPMC Status: End of

RE: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am adding this here just because of the mention of career, profession, and employer. If I encountered a questionnaire that asked who my employer was, I would stop right there and not respond. It is an obvious asked-because-we-can useless question and impeaches the questionnaire source in my

RE: Propose to Integrate Old OO Wiki and New AOO Wiki

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on MediaWiki The convergence on the Community Wiki was considered early in the migration and it was concluded that would not be done. Kay Schenk might have much to add on that, based on her interest then and experience since. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailt

RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It seems that Windows 7 Wordpad will also open for an ODT file if no Microsoft Office or *Office[.org] application has claimed the default. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 05:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apa

RE: Readonly on Password-protected Documents (was: NewWikiMainPage)

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
On the Save As ... dialog and Save with Password option, the Set Password dialog has a "More Options" button which is not expanded by default. Under the More options is a setting for specifying that the document should be opened read-only with a password (separate from the encryption password)

RE: [DISCUSS] Rules of voting for new committers and PPMC members

2012-06-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@ Yong Lin Ma, and others: Committers do not automatically have the option to place themselves on a [P]PMC. The election of committers and the election of [P]PMC members are separate, although they can be done with a single [VOTE] thread. There are many committers on Apache projects who have n

RE: LibreOffice relicensing efforts

2012-05-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Rob makes some important points. Here's my analysis based on that: 1. Oracle did not put anything under the ALv2 with its Software Grant Agreement. It granted the ASF a nonexclusive license (and to none others that we are aware of), to use the identified code in a particular way, including l

RE: [DOWNLOAD][DRAFT] "other.html" created automatically

2012-05-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
rsions of HTML. -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 16:55 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DOWNLOAD][DRAFT] "other.html" created automatically Am 05/22/2012 11:28 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > The p

RE: [DOWNLOAD][DRAFT] "other.html" created automatically

2012-05-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
and that works for this page [;<). -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:54 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DOWNLOAD][DRAFT] "other.html" created automatically Am 05/22/2012 02:29 AM, schrieb Dennis

RE: [DOC] Re: Windows Install Issues (was RE: Linux install issues)

2012-05-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
as RE: Linux install issues) On 5/21/2012 6:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > @Kay, > > Yes, that installation-guide page is very out of date. > > Did you ever look at this > page:<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Win-en-x86-Setup>. Is this the seed

RE: [Comment] Apache software is always free

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Dave, great additions -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 19:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Comment] Apache software is always free On May 21, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 > >

RE: Windows Install Issues (was RE: Linux install issues)

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
gured out to be seamless yet. I must get some experience with it. -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 18:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Windows Install Issues (was RE: Linux install issues) @Kay, Yes, th

RE: [Comment] Apache software is always free

2012-05-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Looking good. I would go with it. It is certainly something that the Apache OpenOffice project can use to refer people too. - Dennis PS: A problem not for immediate solution: The link at the end about mailing lists is a little indirect. On the other hand, linking to the page that lists

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