Resignation from PPMC

2012-05-05 Thread Jean Weber
I hereby resign from the Apache OpenOffice PPMC. I intend no further involvement with this project and will unsubscribe from all project lists after posting this note. For me, contributing to a volunteer project must be enjoyable. I do not enjoy working with this group, because of the behaviour

Getting Started with AOO book

2012-05-01 Thread Jean Weber
The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft chapters on the ODFAuthors website and will put the compiled draft book there soon. Then I'll go back to my travel photos and to the LibreOffice books.

Re: Getting Started with AOO book

2012-05-01 Thread Jean Weber
On 01/05/2012, at 20:37, eric eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 01/05/2012 12:23, Jean Weber a écrit : The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating for me to continue to work on it. What about wait for the Apache OpenOffice availability *before* to stop

Re: Getting Started with AOO book

2012-05-01 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of interest in this book is quite conspicuous, and very demotivating for me to continue to work on it. I've put the updated draft chapters

Re: Getting Started with AOO book

2012-05-01 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I think the trick is finding the right people, of connecting volunteers with volunteer opportunities.  Realistically, if someone was really interested in tech writing, they probably would not be on this list.  The traffic

Revised chapters for Getting Started with AOO need review

2012-04-30 Thread Jean Weber
I revised the Preface to Getting Started with AOO. http://www.odfauthors.org/apache-openoffice/english/user-guides/getting-started-3.4/drafts/gs3.4-preface/view Among other changes, I added a section on What's new in v3.4. I took the info from the release notes on the wiki,

Re: [user guides] Cover art for Apache OpenOffice Getting Started guide

2012-04-28 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:59, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this! Here are my first reactions... I find the gray background a bit gloomy. The name of the book Getting Started is too small and almost gets

More help needed for AOO Getting Started guide: Calc

2012-04-26 Thread Jean Weber
Is this statement correct? Each spreadsheet can have many sheets, and each sheet can have many individual cells. In Calc 3.4, each sheet can have a maximum of 1,048,576 rows and 1024 columns.

Re: [user guides] Cover art for Apache OpenOffice Getting Started guide

2012-04-26 Thread Jean Weber
://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13resid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13!1629parid=root Hope you like it! On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: We're getting close to having a publishable version of the Getting Started guide for Apache OpenOffice. Would anyone like

Re: Draft chapters of Getting Started with AOO need reviewers

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
lou ql wrote, I notice that in page 4 of Preface, Help system it describes the help menu as *Apache OpenOffice Help*. But actually the menu is *OpenOffice.org Help*. My build is r1325589 on Windows XP SP3. Which is correct? or both are OK? The Preface should say OpenOffice.org Help to agree

Re: Draft chapters of Getting Started with AOO need reviewers

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
Andrea wrote, Drew wrote: Why not work so a document starts in Italian and is translated to English, or Japanse or Swazi Well, in this case it makes a lot of sense to start with an English version and then localize it in multiple languages. It's simply the most efficient way in this case.

Re: Draft chapters of Getting Started with AOO need reviewers

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
RGB ES wrote, On chapter 3, page 9 and on chapter 11 page 19 you explain how to teach the program to always save as msoffice format. I think a huge warning must be there saying that this is NOT recommended: using an external format to save files is a risky move that may cause problems with

Re: Draft chapters of Getting Started with AOO need reviewers

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
Guy Waterval wrote, Why reinvent the wheel indeed. There's an existing structure and it would be a good idea to integrate all the documentation writers in a unique environnement. But before to invest a lot of time in such a document project, there's perhaps a choice to do with the license. My

[user guides] Use of AOO logo on cover of ODFAuthors user guide?

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
Can ODFAuthors use the AOO logo on the cover of the user guides we are producing to AOO? Related question: with the license for these books being CC-BY, not Apache-2, I have never been clear just what relationships these books will have to AOO. I realise that they will not be considered part of

[user guides] Cover art for Apache OpenOffice Getting Started guide

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
We're getting close to having a publishable version of the Getting Started guide for Apache OpenOffice. Would anyone like to produce some cover art for this book? Drew? I quite like some of the flower-based work you did for marketing purposes. Perhaps some flower theme would work for the GS

Re: Draft chapters of Getting Started with AOO need reviewers

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:48, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean, all First, many thanks  for your work. 2012/4/25 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com [...]  Perhaps we'll end up with a set of official user docs (Apache license, non-book format) and a set of community

Re: [user guides] Use of AOO logo on cover of ODFAuthors user guide?

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 21:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Can ODFAuthors use the AOO logo on the cover of the user guides we are producing to AOO? The relevant ASF policy is here: http://www.apache.org

Re: [user guides] Use of AOO logo on cover of ODFAuthors user guide?

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 21:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Main thing is to avoid having the user be confused about the source of the documentation.  It is from ODFAuthors, not AOO.  So when we host the files on the wiki, we should make sure it is clear to the user where to report

Re: [user guides] Use of AOO logo on cover of ODFAuthors user guide?

2012-04-25 Thread Jean Weber
On 26/04/2012, at 12:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 21:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Main thing is to avoid having the user be confused about the source of the documentation

Re: Draft Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice

2012-04-05 Thread Jean Weber
On 04/04/2012, at 17:54, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I have uploaded to the ODFAuthors website the draft chapters for Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice. They need review, especially the Preface and Chapter 11, which have questions (as comments) in the files. http

Draft Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice

2012-04-04 Thread Jean Weber
I have uploaded to the ODFAuthors website the draft chapters for Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice. They need review, especially the Preface and Chapter 11, which have questions (as comments) in the files.

Layout problems revising OOo doc using OOo3.4

2012-03-24 Thread Jean Weber
I'm encountering irritating layout problems while revising legacy OpenOffice.org documents using the latest developer build from Apache OpenOffice. Same file works in LibreOffice 3.4.6 with no problems. Here are two of the issues I'm encountering (may be others that I don't recall right now). *

Re: I'd love your opinion on a question of FAQ style

2012-03-13 Thread Jean Weber
(Sorry about the broken thread. I plucked this out of the archives.) Rob, Not commenting on the level of detail, just on the presentation. Thirty years of writing and editing user documentation, FAQs, etc, and ten+ years of website work has taught me this: * Bullet lists, preferably of no more

Re: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test)

2012-03-05 Thread Jean Weber
On 06/03/2012, at 4:30, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-03-05 12:08 PM Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: If there is no solution for extensions, Apache OpenOffice 3.4 early incubator releases should not

Re: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test)

2012-03-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 05:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/03/2012, at 4:30, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-03-05 12:08 PM  Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test)

2012-03-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 06:07, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 05:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/03/2012, at 4:30, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-03-05 12:08 PM

Re: Which name should used, OpenOffice.org or Apache OpenOffice?

2012-03-01 Thread Jean Weber
On 2012/3/1 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: At the moment we plan to move forward with OpenOffice.org as replacement for %PRODUCTNAME% because there are many many dependencies all over the code and it is not used in the UI only. That is good news for anyone who wants to update

Re: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test

2012-03-01 Thread Jean Weber
Greg, Windows, Mac, and other builds (as well as Linux) are here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots AFAIK, testers are needed for all. --Jean On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 07:29, Greg Roberts lookfortherab...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi guys, Just

Error installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
When I attempt to install AOO (latest developer build) on Windows 7, I get the following error: Error 1606. Could not access network location OOo-dev 3. This is at the step when the installer is calculating space requirements. This happened with the previous build, too. --Jean

Re: Error installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 18:37, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: When I attempt to install AOO (latest developer build) on Windows 7, I get the following error: Error 1606. Could not access network location OOo-dev 3. This is at the step when the installer is calculating space requirements

Re: Error installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 19:42, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:40:12 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:37:02 +1000 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: When I attempt to install AOO (latest developer build) on Windows 7, I

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1293738

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 03:25, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:50:20 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:30:46 +0100 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: I have recreated the installationsets - Writer menues

Re: Error installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 21:14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:58:38 +1000 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 19:42, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:40:12 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote

Re: Error installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 21:19, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 21:14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:58:38 +1000 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 19:42, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 29

Success installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
AFAIK this Windows 7 machine has all Win7 updates installed. It has OOo 3.3 and LO3.4 on it. I removed a previous ooo-dev (3.2!) following instructions Rory pointed me to. When I got the most up to date Windows installation file for AOO (from the cwiki page), it installed with no problem and

Success installing on Mac OS X Lion

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
This Mac has OS X Lion 10.7.3 installed. It has LO3.4 and LO3.5 installed on it, but no legacy version of OOo. Installation proceeded with no problem, and the program appears to work. I have found one problem so far, when working with templates. I'll write that up in a separate thread. --Jean

Saved template does not appear in list of templates

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
I have not attempted to search Bugzilla to see if a bug report exists for this problem. If this is not a known bug, I will attempt to test on Windows and Ubuntu as well as on Mac and file a bug report. But if someone says oh yes, we know all about that! and can point me to the bug report, I'll

Re: Saved template does not appear in list of templates - OK now!

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I have not attempted to search Bugzilla to see if a bug report exists for this problem. If this is not a known bug, I will attempt to test on Windows and Ubuntu as well as on Mac and file a bug report. But if someone says oh yes, we know all about

Re: Success installing AOO on Windows 7

2012-02-29 Thread Jean Weber
For Windows 7, the file from here worked for me (all menus toolbars ok, including in Writer), when another one did not show menus toolbars in Writer: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots --Jean 2012/3/1 YangTerry polo8...@hotmail.com: I

Re: Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-28 Thread Jean Weber
/tutorial/en/spreadsheets_tutorial/frameset.html Thoughts? On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:25, Jing Bai jingbaibe...@gmail.com wrote: The wikis we use are xpages wikis that run on Domino servers. USA IDC hosts the WIKI for all

Writing a book with docbook and a confluence wiki

2012-02-25 Thread Jean Weber
This book, by Sarah Maddox (one of the technical writers at Atlassian, the company behind the Confluence wiki), may be of interest: http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/writing-a-book-with-docbook-and-a-confluence-wiki/ http://xmlpress.net/publications/chocolate/ --Jean

Re: Sample Files Collection for AOO testing

2012-02-21 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 15:40, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the

Re: Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 19:19, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: Hi Betsy, On 17.02.2012 07:16, Jing Bai wrote: Greetings, I am Betsy Bai who leads the ID team in IBM Symphony team. Actually, it is not like that. The product teams at IBM don't do their own doc. [...] In the future,

Re: Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 20:55, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 19:19, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: Hi Betsy, On 17.02.2012 07:16, Jing Bai wrote: Greetings, I am Betsy Bai who leads the ID team in IBM Symphony team. Actually, it is not like

Re: Reminder: Not all list posts are from list subscribers

2012-02-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 00:00, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Where MUA = Mail User Agent, i.e. the actual program that you use to read your emails - like Thunderbird, Outlook, GMail (really, the browser you use to open gmail.com), etc. I mostly read my GMail on my iPad, and my

Re: Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:25, Jing Bai jingbaibe...@gmail.com wrote: The wikis we use are xpages wikis that run on Domino servers. USA IDC hosts the WIKI for all Lotus products, such as Lotus Connections, LotusLive, Symphony, Sametime and etc. There is a STSM named John Hunt who wrote the

Re: translation of several chapters calc-user-guide into German

2012-02-15 Thread Jean Weber
concerned with work on LO. This may change now that Apache OpenOffice is closer to release. Meanwhile, work on Apache OpenOffice is being done through ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org. I have cc'd that list. --Jean On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 20:12, heiko strauss allem...@web.de wrote: Hi Jean Weber, hi

Re: Blog idea: interviews with AOO developers

2012-02-14 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 05:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Something like this: 1.  Email interview off-list with an AOO contributor.  Questions like: tell us about yourself, where you live, what you do for a living. What is your development machine?  How did you start working with

Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-14 Thread Jean Weber
At what point, and in what form, will the Symphony user documentation be made available for updating to AOO? AFAIK, it's all delivered online, but details about production tools would be useful. If this info is on the wiki or in the list archives, a pointer to that info would suffice. Also, will

Re: Symphony documentation for AOO?

2012-02-14 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 06:51, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: At what point, and in what form, will the Symphony user documentation be made available for updating to AOO? AFAIK, it's all delivered online, but details about production tools would be useful. If this info is on the wiki

Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice 3.4?

2012-02-14 Thread Jean Weber
Is anyone interested in working on a Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice 3.4 book and/or user guides for Writer or other components? Release notes are available [1], though possibly incomplete, and the software (developers' builds) is working, so it's probably not a waste of time to start

Re: Proposal for use of funds collected by SPI

2012-02-13 Thread Jean Weber
In addition to developers' conferences and an AOO event, IMO an important potential use for some of the money is to fund marketing expenses such as attendance (and materials for display booths) at trade shows where potential customers/users gather. AOO is somewhat unique in Apache by having users

Re: Proposal for use of funds collected by SPI

2012-02-13 Thread Jean Weber
On 14/02/2012, at 0:25, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: In addition to developers' conferences and an AOO event, IMO an important potential use

Re: Top AOO 3.4 Features?

2012-02-13 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 05:17, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'd like to write a blog post on the top new things in AOO 3.4, from the user perspective, compared to OOo 3.3. What would you put on that list?  What are the benefits of upgrading? Looking at the features list, enhanced RFT

Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2011-12-22 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:55, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Everyone, The http:ooo-site.apache.org version of www.openoffice.org is ready for review before migration. There are several last issues for people to review. FYI... I have made a few changes on the Documentation

Re: Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-19 Thread Jean Weber
, Great! Thanks for the heads up. I did tweak that page in the last 24 hours. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to update the support page (currently at http://ooo-site.apache.org/support/index.html). FYI, here

FAQs for AOO

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
There are quite a lot of existing FAQs on the OOo wiki. Someone was organising and sorting them and (I think) working through them doing updates. (I have no idea if that someone is still around.) Anyone wanting to work on FAQs should probably become familiar with what's already there (at least in

AOO How-tos

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
Similar to my note about the FAQs, there is a collection of how-tos on the OOo wiki. These also need to be checked to see if they are out of date. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos That page is also a good place to check if you're thinking of writing a how-to; perhaps

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:19, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:40, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jean, On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Jean Weber wrote: I could potentially do the same on the Docs portion of the migrated OOo website, if it's ready

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 05:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:31:19 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well

Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
I am going to update the support page (currently at http://ooo-site.apache.org/support/index.html). FYI, here is what I intend to do. (If there is a place on the planning wiki for this info, I'll put it there too.) * Check all the links and remove or correct any out of date ones. * Remove all

Re: Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:00, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 10:35 AM To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: Support page of website - work planned I am going to update

Re: What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:42, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some spam on the ooo-users list this evening: http://markmail.org/message/hqvtj76howq5kmjv The poster is subscribed to the list.  This was not moderated in. What do we want moderators to do in this case? Warn the user?

Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release

2011-12-17 Thread Jean Weber
On 18/12/2011, at 7:58, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I think it is irresponsible to not mitigate risk by having multiple levels of fall-back in place always. Not installing a 3.4 atop a 3.3 is one of

Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release

2011-12-17 Thread Jean Weber
On 18/12/2011, at 9:56, Allen Pulsifer apulsi...@apache.org wrote: The Apache OpenOffice (incubating) project has tentatively identified the first quarter of 2012 for a Version 3.4 release. I think I would prefer Apache OpenOffice v1.0 That would totally confuse most of the current users

Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-17 Thread Jean Weber
Now that the OOo wiki has been migrated to Apache, is this a good time for me to start cleaning up the Docs section? Specifically, removing obsolete info (like references to Clayton and me as Docs Co-Leads and some of the info in the orientation pages for contributors to Docs). I could

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:40, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jean, On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Now that the OOo wiki has been migrated to Apache, is this a good time for me to start cleaning up the Docs section? Specifically, removing obsolete info (like

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-17 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:40, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jean, On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Jean Weber wrote: I could potentially do the same on the Docs portion of the migrated OOo website, if it's ready for that sort of cleanup. I was going to ask for help with support

Re: RPM Builds are still missed

2011-12-16 Thread Jean Weber
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 15:57, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi at all Now the collection of builds is nearly compleedet. On http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/devsnap.php I have Mac Windows and Linux (deb). It would be great, if sameone can provide rpm builds Will there also be builds

[user-docs] Anything happening re end-user docs?

2011-12-15 Thread Jean Weber
Now that the migration to Apache is well advanced and builds are becoming available, my mind turns again to the area in which I could potentially contribute something: end-user documentation. We discussed this some months ago, with various suggestions for the type of docs needed and the

Re: URIs Associated with OOo Documentation

2011-11-19 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 06:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I did a *sampling* just now and I found all of these addresses used as Feedback locations: disc...@lists.odfauthors.org  Impress Guide 3.3, 2011-08-27 Oops! That's an error. My bad.

Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand

2011-11-12 Thread Jean Weber
+1 for b) Apache OpenOffice --Jean Hollis Weber Donald Harbison wrote, As promised, here's the ballot. Choose one, cast your vote. If none of them get more than 50% of the binding votes, we will start a ballot for the top two contenders. a) Apache OpenOffice.org b) Apache OpenOffice c)

Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-07 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:04, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 09/04/2011 02:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Terry Ellisonte...@ellisons.org.uk  wrote: On 04/09/11 18:01, Rob

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: ... one alternative would be to upload the doc to Apache-Extra.org.  Projects there are hosted by Google Code, and also agree to these guidelines: http

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Wearing my IBM hat, the larger issue, one that may not concern everyone here but does concern me, is the impact the license choice has on our ability to attract corporate-sponsored contributors to an effort that is not using a

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 22:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm fairly sure that whatever route AOOo chooses to take, I won't be interested in being part of it. I had no real idea of what would be involved here (I

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-06 Thread Jean Weber
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 07:01, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Regardless of what the other members of ODFAuthors choose to do regarding AOOo and the existing user guides, and where they choose to do it, I am burnt out and not interested in continuing. That includes, in case it's

Re: [PROPOSAL] turn off mail address mangling at Gmane

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 21:20, Michael Stahl m...@openoffice.org wrote: thus i propose to disable the address mangling at Gmane. +1 Jean

Wiki page on User Docs Other Support Services

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
I have put part of the notes from Rob, me, and Nino on this wiki page, for easier reference than digging them out of the archives. User Docs Other Support Services https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=27826116 --Jean

Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
Just trying to be quite clear on something here, since every time the topic turns up, it seems to mutate into a wider discussion without actually answering the question of the relationship of the existing user guides to AOOo. We have established that relicensing the existing OOo user guides

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: What should I tell the small group that remains from the ODFAuthors team that has been working on the user guides? Feel free to share this note.  You could invite them to discuss here at ooo-dev, or I'd be happy to answer

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 07:52, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: What should I tell the small group that remains from the ODFAuthors team that has been working on the user guides? Feel free to share this note.  You could

Re: AOO fr-documentation project

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 08:30, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Le 5 sept. 11 à 18:28, Guy Waterval a écrit : I've written some documentation about OO.org 3.3.0 on my website which I'm using now as a raw material (it's largely perfectible) to write an end-user documentation about Lotus

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I think Rob's suggestions for boldly going where OOo Docs have not gone before are good ones, but they won't happen immediately. In the short term

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Wearing my IBM hat, the larger issue, one that may not concern everyone here but does concern me, is the impact the license choice has on our ability to attract corporate-sponsored contributors to an effort that is not using a

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I think Rob's

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:53, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: Hi Jean; Continuing on the topic of my general ignorance ... --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: ... It's not clear to me that the user guides produced by ODFAuthors are in fact official

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Jean Weber
Responding to some other points in this note On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:53, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: I recall someone (maybe you) had said that the ODFAuthors wanted to keep independent. If they want to join the podling they are welcome. Sure. Each person can choose

Re: Re : [Discuss] Lost in translation

2011-09-04 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 15:19, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Now, I see TDF proposes a Board of Director.  This means TDF has a pyramidal structure (read : The Cathedral and the Bazaar), will be controled by several Companies, who will decide. The simple contributor will decide nothing,

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On 04/09/2011, at 2:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these are the average posts/day for the most-used lists. I've arbitrarily cut-off the lost at

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 07:43, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: IMO, looking at traffic on 2011 lists gives a false impression, at least when averaged. I can only speak for the two active lists at documentation (dev and authors), but they are quite active when we are working on docs for a

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 07:58, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I have no objection to the general recommendation of list consolidation, directing all user-related lists to ooo-users and project-related lists to ooo-dev. Having thought about this some more over breakfast, I amend

Re: Should w merge discuss@ooo into ooo-users.i.a.o ?

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 03:07, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Here is the post I sent to users@ooo. It appears to have caused offense to a LO supporter who wanted to blow off steam and go out in a blaze of glory. I will grieve his loss. Rob, I feel that comment was completely

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used for policy and infrastructure discussions, which would fit well on ooo-dev. I would like

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:10, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used for policy and infrastructure discussions, which would fit well on ooo-dev. On further reflection, IF we set up a list for ooo-userdocs (under whatever name

Re: Legacy OOo list post stats

2011-09-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:47, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, documentation.dev

Re: What could Doc be?

2011-09-02 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:36, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Thanks for the comments and encouraging ideas. Before I can answer the more substantial questions in a useful way, I'll need to do some research

Fwd: If we had the resources, what could/would/should we do?

2011-09-02 Thread Jean Weber
do? To: ODFAuthors odfauthors-disc...@lists.odfauthors.org Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2011, um 07:13:14 schrieb Jean Weber: So... what would you like to see as documentation/user support for AOOo? Here is a first rough collection of requirements/ideas/wishes which may need being discussed

Re: What could Doc be?

2011-09-02 Thread Jean Weber
Returning to a point Rob made earlier... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:36, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: My general view is this:  After 10 years of OpenOffice.org we have about as many volunteers as the status quo will ever get us.  If someone is really interested and able to contribute to

Re: draft blog post on the Linux build education event

2011-09-01 Thread Jean Weber
A little late here, and a trivial observation, but this type of statement really jerks my chain, because it is so Northern-Hemisphere specific: It is September. Time for cooler weather and time to go back to school (Watching the temperatures and humidity rise inexorably towards summer makes

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