Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 02/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote: I wonder if something like this would work: http://openhatch.org/search/?q=&toughness=bitesize&language=Python It looks like they can suck in appropriately flagged BZ issues. Thanks, good link. It still seems to lack the "matching" part (i.e., I register on the si

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 30/10/2012 Guy Waterval wrote: >>> >>> But for other people who will occasionally participate, why not a Post >>> Office where they could register (for security reasons, acceptation of t

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 31/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: Right. So maybe when we do a wider "call for volunteers" we can offer three tracks: 1) Sign up for ooo-dev and "drink from the firehose" (our only current option) 2) A short intro on the wiki, one that doesn't exist yet, but maybe someone can write one. 3) A longe

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

+1, it is a very intuitive page, and seems easy to link to passing project etc. jan On 2 November 2012 02:40, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > > On 30/10/2012 Guy Waterval wrote: > >> > >> But for other people who will occasionally participate, why n

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 30/10/2012 Guy Waterval wrote: >> >> But for other people who will occasionally participate, why not a Post >> Office where they could register (for security reasons, acceptation of the >> license, etc.). >> When they have time, they can

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 30/10/2012 Guy Waterval wrote: But for other people who will occasionally participate, why not a Post Office where they could register (for security reasons, acceptation of the license, etc.). When they have time, they can visit the Post Office to see the list of to do tasks, and they can down

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Rob, I've submitted "QA introduction" page, pls help commit it. Thanks 2012/11/1 Kay Schenk > > > On 10/31/2012 11:36 AM, jan iversen wrote: > >> +1 to your 3 layer strategy. >> >> I have made a proposal for the wiki page, however I am not competent to >> fill in the tasks. >> http://wiki.ope

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/31/2012 11:36 AM, jan iversen wrote: +1 to your 3 layer strategy. I have made a proposal for the wiki page, however I am not competent to fill in the tasks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Communication/new_contributors&action=submit I have NOT linked it in anywhere, but a

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

+1 to your 3 layer strategy. I have made a proposal for the wiki page, however I am not competent to fill in the tasks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Communication/new_contributors&action=submit I have NOT linked it in anywhere, but a natural link would in "participation" on the ma

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:46 PM, jan iversen wrote: > Hi. > > I think your md pages are SUPERwhat I suggested was an additional wiki > page (actually someone else called it postoffice) where we put small tasks > that need to be translated / written etc. > > So I see your pages go hand in hand

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Hi. I think your md pages are SUPERwhat I suggested was an additional wiki page (actually someone else called it postoffice) where we put small tasks that need to be translated / written etc. So I see your pages go hand in hand with Wiki pages, just too different levels of interaction with th

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/28/2012 04:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> >>> On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeo

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/28/2012 04:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from pro

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Hi Andrea, Hi all, 2012/10/28 Andrea Pescetti > On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: > >> New Volunteer Orientation root page: >> http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/orientation/ >> > > This is an excellent resource. But we received a few

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

I think asking me would be wrong...I would come with the much to complicated answers :-) I really like the idea of simple start page, for people who want to help without getting so deeply involved as I am trying to become. May I suggest a wiki page, where we constantly (very frequently write) - t

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 12-10-28, at 19:30 , Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> New Volunteer Orientation root page: >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ >> >> >> This is an excellent resource. But we received a

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >> >> New Volunteer Orientation root page: >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ > > > This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from > prospective volunteers this weeken

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from prospective volunteers this weekend and I'm believing it would be overwhelming to point them there. I st

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

+1 Anything is better than nothing !!! and afterwards it can be improved. jan On 24 October 2012 18:49, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/24/2012 09:40 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM, jan iversen >> wrote: >> >>> After a day of work, maybe I should elaborate on what I me

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/24/2012 09:40 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM, jan iversen wrote: After a day of work, maybe I should elaborate on what I mean: Having read your documents in detail, which I really find SUPER, I see one challenge: "old" people in the mailing list pretty much knows

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM, jan iversen wrote: > After a day of work, maybe I should elaborate on what I mean: > > Having read your documents in detail, which I really find SUPER, I see one > challenge: > > "old" people in the mailing list pretty much knows who is working on (sort > of respo

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

After a day of work, maybe I should elaborate on what I mean: Having read your documents in detail, which I really find SUPER, I see one challenge: "old" people in the mailing list pretty much knows who is working on (sort of responsible for) a given part, so they have no problems with "proposals

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

+1, that was something I could really have used some weeks ago :-) Maybe a word about "active volunteers" might not be harmful (I think I am in that state now) Jan I. On 23 October 2012 23:30, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > I am thinking about what new

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Excellent work Rob this is a great way to help manage contributors! > > From: Rob Weir >To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:30 PM >Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks > >On Fri, Oct

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. > Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers > need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need > to understand Pootle, etc. But the

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Hi Jürgen, Hi all, 2012/10/22 Jürgen Schmidt > On 10/20/12 10:06 AM, jan iversen wrote: > > You are quite right, I might not be the typical volunteer, and it is very > > important to find a hook where you can start, I had the luck that juergen > > and andrea gave me a starting point. > > > > Yo

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/20/12 10:06 AM, jan iversen wrote: > You are quite right, I might not be the typical volunteer, and it is very > important to find a hook where you can start, I had the luck that juergen > and andrea gave me a starting point. > > Your list is quite ok, just lets call it something neutral, li

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, jan iversen wrote: > Sorry, it seemed my remark sparked quite some feelings, that was not my > intention ! > > But not having been on the list for very long, means that there a lot of > history I dont have, and the mailer didnt exactly like when I tried to get > al

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Sorry, it seemed my remark sparked quite some feelings, that was not my intention ! But not having been on the list for very long, means that there a lot of history I dont have, and the mailer didnt exactly like when I tried to get all messages. During my research for a updated l10n process, I hav

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:47 PM, jan iversen wrote: > 3) +1, but I will never understand why it is a mailing list and not a > forum, where it is so much easier to look at history Oh please, not again... mailing lists have many advantages over web forums: 1. Speed (the emails arrive automagically

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/19/12, Rob Weir wrote: > I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. > Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers > need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need > to understand Pootle, etc. But there are also some basi

RE: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:24:44 -0400 > Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks > From: robw...@apache.org > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:16 PM, jan iversen wrote: > > I think it is important to remember, that a vol

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Le 19/10/12 18:17, Rob Weir a écrit : I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need to understand Pootle, etc. But there are also some ba

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

You are quite right, I might not be the typical volunteer, and it is very important to find a hook where you can start, I had the luck that juergen and andrea gave me a starting point. Your list is quite ok, just lets call it something neutral, like "help to get started". jan On 20 October 2012

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

Sorry, I think I was a bit to argumentative last night, I really like your idea I have added a few comments below. jan. On 20 October 2012 00:18, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, jan iversen > wrote: > > I think it is a good starting point, however I dont like the notation

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:16 PM, jan iversen wrote: > I think it is important to remember, that a volunteer is not signing up for > anything. > > A volunteer, in my view, is a person who wants to help with his/hers > skillset...so if we start saying you have to pass level x before continuing > we

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, jan iversen wrote: > I think it is a good starting point, however I dont like the notation > "level 1", is looks like a graduation process, and I have to ask myself > where am I on that latter. > I don't want suggest that everyone must go through these steps. An

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

I think it is important to remember, that a volunteer is not signing up for anything. A volunteer, in my view, is a person who wants to help with his/hers skillset...so if we start saying you have to pass level x before continuing we have already lost (At least I can relate that to myself) I have

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

I think it is a good starting point, however I dont like the notation "level 1", is looks like a graduation process, and I have to ask myself where am I on that latter. 1) Introduce yourself (by the way I think I have forgotten that). why do it on the mailling list, when Wiki ask you for more o

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/19/2012 01:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. >>> Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers >>> ne

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On 10/19/2012 01:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers nee

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. > Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers > need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need > to understand Pootle, etc. But the

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

I had a funny feeling, that I was the drop that made it flow over :-) I will make a lists of what I missed and post it on l10n and then we can take that as a starting point. jan. On 19 October 2012 20:04, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, jan iversen > wrote: > > That is a

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, jan iversen wrote: > That is a BIG +++1 from me. > > Being a new contributors, I could have saved a lot of "stupid" questions, > had I had a reading list. > > I have spent quite a number of hours (and that of others too) finding > things, everybody knows. > > It w

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

That is a BIG +++1 from me. Being a new contributors, I could have saved a lot of "stupid" questions, had I had a reading list. I have spent quite a number of hours (and that of others too) finding things, everybody knows. It would be good to have 1 wiki page with a suggested reading and items t

AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need to understand Pootle, etc. But there are also some basic things that all volunteers should pr