Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-29 Thread Kivilahti Olli-Antti
I agree with Mr. Peters that the default ident_type SSN should be removed to not teach bad habits. It is rather unfortunate that you see this solely as an en-US question, considering how much you push for an International Evergreen Community. The customizable SSN-censorer I came up with is a

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-29 Thread Ben Shum
Well, in our consortium, we also do not use any SSN identifiers for similar reasons to the others listed thus far. We actually use the ident_value field to store student ID numbers for our school library patrons as an alternate means of identifying students separate from barcodes, etc. The

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-29 Thread Steve Wills
@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality I agree with Mr. Peters that the default ident_type SSN should be removed to not teach bad habits.It is rather unfortunate that you see this solely as an en-US question, considering how much you push

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
Quoting Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com: Storing SSNs unencrypted is a terrific mistake, in the US. Storing them at all is a Very Bad Thing (TM). Storing a hash that is evidence that a proper authority has seen the number, or just a boolean true, seems like enough. This reply is not

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
Quoting Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.org: Stepping down from my soapbox, I see absolutely no reason for a US library to store a patron's SSN. A drivers' license number, perhaps, but not the SSN. My suggestion is to delete the field, and if someone needs to track such an identifier

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-27 Thread Justin Hopkins
http://i.imgur.com/muy2N.gif Justin On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: Quoting Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.org: Stepping down from my soapbox, I see absolutely no reason for a US library to store a patron's SSN. A drivers' license number, perhaps, but not the

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-27 Thread Peters, Michael
, August 27, 2012 11:33 AM To: Open-ILS Dev Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality Quoting Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.org: Stepping down from my soapbox, I see absolutely no reason for a US library to store a patron's SSN. A drivers' license number

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-26 Thread Wolf Halton
Storing SSNs unencrypted is a terrific mistake, in the US. Storing them at all is a Very Bad Thing (TM). Storing a hash that is evidence that a proper authority has seen the number, or just a boolean true, seems like enough. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer:

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-26 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 05:04:14PM -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: Storing SSNs unencrypted is a terrific mistake, in the US. Storing them at all is a Very Bad Thing (TM). Storing a hash that is evidence that a proper authority has seen the number, or just a boolean true, seems like enough. pLease,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-24 Thread Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich
All true and understood, but probably a different issue. The reality of what the SSN equivalent is in jurisdictions other than USA likely varies. It may be perfectly legal and acceptable to use that SSN equivalent (be it passport number or some other ID), because there may not be a different

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-13 Thread Thomas Berezansky
The more I look at the list of issues you present, the more I am convinced that storing SSNs as they currently are is a *bad* thing. Perhaps storing them in general is a bad thing? Disclaimer: MVLC has local laws preventing us from even considering storing SSNs or Drivers License numbers,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-13 Thread Kivilahti Olli-Antti
The more I look at the list of issues you present, the more I am convinced that storing SSNs as they currently are is a *bad* thing. Perhaps storing them in general is a bad thing? I am not sure can we not store SSNs. Here they are collected wherever you do business. Transmitted over phone to

Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

2012-08-13 Thread Justin Hopkins
I also believe that storing SSN's is a Very Bad Thing. This may be because I'm coming from an overwhelmingly enterprise/academic environment where FERPA is taken very seriously, but in general I treat SSN's as I would credit card numbers or personal medical information. I don't see reason for