Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Jane Sandberg]

Very good to know!  Thanks, Jason!

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Boyer, Jason A <jbo...@library.in.gov> wrote:
> I do like Kathy's method a lot and will be exploring that here, but this will 
> only remove the FAST subjects in your case:
>
> In your source tree, edit 
> Open-ILS/src/templates/opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2 and search for "BLOCK 
> render_subject" then, a couple of lines down you'll see
>
> FOR node IN ctx.marc_xml.findnodes(xpath);
>
> This is where the function loops over all of the extracted subjects. 
> Immediately below this line add the following:
>
> NEXT IF node.findnodes('./*[@code="2" and (text()="fast")]');
>
> To only ignore OCLC FAST subjects.
>
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason Boyer
> MIS Supervisor
> Indiana State Library
> http://library.in.gov/
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
>> boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg
>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:39 PM
>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging
>> Type Question)
>>
>>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or
>> click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
>> 
>>
>> Good to know!  Thanks, Kathy.
>>
>> Our trouble is that we do include other 6XX fields with 2nd indicator
>> 7 that we'd still want to display, so I think we'll just be content to
>> take out the FAST ones for now.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Elaine,
>> >
>> > We do. It's just further down in the file.
>> >
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> >
>> > On 03/16/2017 03:31 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote:
>> >
>> > Kathy,
>> >
>> > Y'all don't display 655s?
>> >
>> > Elaine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J. Elaine Hardy
>> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>> > Atlanta, GA 30045
>> >
>> > 404.235.7128 Office
>> > 404.548.4241 Cell
>> > 404.235.7201 FAX
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of the file
>> >> that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the subject links:
>> >>
>> >> subjects = [
>> >> {
>> >> label => l('Subject: '),
>> >> xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
>> >> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'
>> >> },
>> >>
>> >> You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the display to
>> >> specific types of subject headings. For example, this is what's used at
>> >> NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC headings for children:
>> >>
>> >> subjects = [
>> >> {
>> >> label => l('Subject: '),
>> >> xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
>> >> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or @ind2="1"))]'
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps!
>> >> Kathy
>> >>
>> >> On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
>> >> magic?
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
>> >>> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
>> >>> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
>> >>> them, and re-import them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
>> >>> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
>> >

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Boyer, Jason A]

I do like Kathy's method a lot and will be exploring that here, but this will 
only remove the FAST subjects in your case:

In your source tree, edit Open-ILS/src/templates/opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2 
and search for "BLOCK render_subject" then, a couple of lines down you'll see 

FOR node IN ctx.marc_xml.findnodes(xpath);

This is where the function loops over all of the extracted subjects. 
Immediately below this line add the following:

NEXT IF node.findnodes('./*[@code="2" and (text()="fast")]'); 

To only ignore OCLC FAST subjects.

Jason 

--
Jason Boyer
MIS Supervisor
Indiana State Library
http://library.in.gov/


> -Original Message-
> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:39 PM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging
> Type Question)
> 
>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or
> click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
> 
> 
> Good to know!  Thanks, Kathy.
> 
> Our trouble is that we do include other 6XX fields with 2nd indicator
> 7 that we'd still want to display, so I think we'll just be content to
> take out the FAST ones for now.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> wrote:
> > Hi Elaine,
> >
> > We do. It's just further down in the file.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> > On 03/16/2017 03:31 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote:
> >
> > Kathy,
> >
> > Y'all don't display 655s?
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128 Office
> > 404.548.4241 Cell
> > 404.235.7201 FAX
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of the file
> >> that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the subject links:
> >>
> >> subjects = [
> >> {
> >> label => l('Subject: '),
> >> xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
> >> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'
> >> },
> >>
> >> You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the display to
> >> specific types of subject headings. For example, this is what's used at
> >> NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC headings for children:
> >>
> >> subjects = [
> >> {
> >> label => l('Subject: '),
> >> xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
> >> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or @ind2="1"))]'
> >>
> >> I hope this helps!
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >> On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:
> >>
> >> Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
> >> magic?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
> >>> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
> >>> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
> >>> them, and re-import them.
> >>>
> >>> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
> >>> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
> >>> <eha...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> >>> > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an
> >>> > OCLC
> >>> > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed
> >>> > to
> >>> > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now
> >>> > might
> >>> > mean adding them back later.
> >>> >
> >>> &g

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Jane Sandberg]

Good to know!  Thanks, Kathy.

Our trouble is that we do include other 6XX fields with 2nd indicator
7 that we'd still want to display, so I think we'll just be content to
take out the FAST ones for now.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:
> Hi Elaine,
>
> We do. It's just further down in the file.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> On 03/16/2017 03:31 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote:
>
> Kathy,
>
> Y'all don't display 655s?
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
>
> 404.235.7128 Office
> 404.548.4241 Cell
> 404.235.7201 FAX
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Kathy Lussier 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of the file
>> that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the subject links:
>>
>> subjects = [
>> {
>> label => l('Subject: '),
>> xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
>> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'
>> },
>>
>> You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the display to
>> specific types of subject headings. For example, this is what's used at
>> NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC headings for children:
>>
>> subjects = [
>> {
>> label => l('Subject: '),
>> xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
>> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or @ind2="1"))]'
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>> Kathy
>>
>> On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:
>>
>> Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
>> magic?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
>>> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
>>> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
>>> them, and re-import them.
>>>
>>> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
>>> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
>>>  wrote:
>>> > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an
>>> > OCLC
>>> > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed
>>> > to
>>> > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now
>>> > might
>>> > mean adding them back later.
>>> >
>>> > We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input
>>> > in
>>> > OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
>>> > headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them;
>>> > but,
>>> > you can if you want.
>>> >
>>> > I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since
>>> > they
>>> > are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do
>>> > also
>>> > agree that they are messy.
>>> >
>>> > Elaine
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > J. Elaine Hardy
>>> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>>> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>>> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>>> > Atlanta, GA 30045
>>> >
>>> > 404.235.7128 Office
>>> > 404.548.4241 Cell
>>> > 404.235.7201 FAX
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me
>>> >> to
>>> >> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>>> >>
>>> >> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and
>>> >> thought
>>> >> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to
>>> >> take
>>> >> them out?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for any replies.
>>> >> —
>>> >> Rose M. Schooff
>>> >> Technology Consultant
>>> >> Library Development and Networking
>>> >> The Library of Virginia
>>> >> 800 E. Broad Street
>>> >> Richmond, VA  23219
>>> >> 804-692-3772
>>> >> 804-310-7901
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jane Sandberg
>>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>> Linn-Benton Community College
>>> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sarah Childs
>> Technical Services Department Head
>> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
>> 250 North Fifth Street
>> Zionsville, IN 46077
>> 317-873-3149 x13330
>> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kathy Lussier
>> Project Coordinator
>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>> (508) 343-0128
>> kluss...@masslnc.org
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128
> kluss...@masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier



-- 
Jane Sandberg
Electronic Resources Librarian
Linn-Benton Community College

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi Elaine,

We do. It's just further down in the file.

Kathy


On 03/16/2017 03:31 PM, Elaine Hardy wrote:

Kathy,

Y'all don't display 655s?

Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
Atlanta, GA 30045

404.235.7128 Office
404.548.4241 Cell
404.235.7201 FAX

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Kathy Lussier > wrote:


Hi all,

In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of
the file that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the
subject links:

subjects = [
{
label => l('Subject: '),
xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611"
or @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'
},

You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the
display to specific types of subject headings. For example, this
is what's used at NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC
headings for children:

subjects = [
{
label => l('Subject: '),
xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611"
or @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or
@ind2="1"))]'

I hope this helps!
Kathy

On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:

Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked
this magic?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg
> wrote:

We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's
MarcEdit
program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit
magic on
them, and re-import them.

Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them
from the
OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
> wrote:
> While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if
they are in an OCLC
> WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They
are designed to
> work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing
them now might
> mean adding them back later.
>
> We don't add them, either to records without them or to
original input in
> OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis
to add FAST
> headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to
add them; but,
> you can if you want.
>
> I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC
display since they
> are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a
chance. I do also
> agree that they are messy.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
>
> 404.235.7128  Office
> 404.548.4241  Cell
> 404.235.7201  FAX
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
> > wrote:
>>
>> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries)
wanted me to
>> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject
Headings?
>>
>> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of
duplication and thought
>> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in
the future to take
>> them out?
>>
>> Thanks for any replies.
>> —
>> Rose M. Schooff
>> Technology Consultant
>> Library Development and Networking
>> The Library of Virginia
>> 800 E. Broad Street
>> Richmond, VA  23219
>> 804-692-3772 
>> 804-310-7901 
>>
>



--
Jane Sandberg
Electronic Resources Librarian
Linn-Benton Community College
sand...@linnbenton.edu  /
541-917-4655 
Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs




-- 
Sarah Childs

Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org 


-- 
Kathy Lussier

Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128 
kluss...@masslnc.org 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Elaine Hardy]

Kathy,

Y'all don't display 655s?

Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
Atlanta, GA 30045

404.235.7128 Office
404.548.4241 Cell
404.235.7201 FAX

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Kathy Lussier 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of the file
> that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the subject links:
>
> subjects = [
> {
> label => l('Subject: '),
> xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'
> },
>
> You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the display to
> specific types of subject headings. For example, this is what's used at
> NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC headings for children:
>
> subjects = [
> {
> label => l('Subject: '),
> xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or
> @tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or @ind2="1"))]'
>
> I hope this helps!
> Kathy
>
> On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:
>
> Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
> magic?
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg 
> wrote:
>
>> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
>> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
>> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
>> them, and re-import them.
>>
>> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
>> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
>>  wrote:
>> > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an
>> OCLC
>> > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to
>> > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might
>> > mean adding them back later.
>> >
>> > We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input
>> in
>> > OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
>> > headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them;
>> but,
>> > you can if you want.
>> >
>> > I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since
>> they
>> > are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do
>> also
>> > agree that they are messy.
>> >
>> > Elaine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J. Elaine Hardy
>> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
>> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
>> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
>> > Atlanta, GA 30045
>> >
>> > 404.235.7128 Office
>> > 404.548.4241 Cell
>> > 404.235.7201 FAX
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
>> >> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>> >>
>> >> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and
>> thought
>> >> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to
>> take
>> >> them out?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any replies.
>> >> —
>> >> Rose M. Schooff
>> >> Technology Consultant
>> >> Library Development and Networking
>> >> The Library of Virginia
>> >> 800 E. Broad Street
>> >> Richmond, VA  23219
>> >> 804-692-3772
>> >> 804-310-7901
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jane Sandberg
>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>> Linn-Benton Community College
>> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sarah Childs
> Technical Services Department Head
> Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
> 250 North Fifth Street
> Zionsville, IN 46077
> 317-873-3149 x13330
> sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
>
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi all,

In opac/parts/record/subjects.tt2, there is a line at the top of the 
file that indicates you're using the 650 MARC field for the subject links:


subjects = [
{
label => l('Subject: '),
xpath => '//*[@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or 
@tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651"]'

},

You can add indicators for that xpath if you want to limit the display 
to specific types of subject headings. For example, this is what's used 
at NOBLE to limit to LC and subject headings and LC headings for children:


subjects = [
{
label => l('Subject: '),
xpath => '//*[((@tag="600" or @tag="610" or @tag="611" or 
@tag="630" or @tag="650" or @tag="651") and (@ind2="0" or @ind2="1"))]'


I hope this helps!
Kathy

On 03/16/2017 10:51 AM, Sarah Childs wrote:
Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this 
magic?


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg > wrote:


We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
them, and re-import them.

Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
>
wrote:
> While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are
in an OCLC
> WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are
designed to
> work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them
now might
> mean adding them back later.
>
> We don't add them, either to records without them or to original
input in
> OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to
add FAST
> headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add
them; but,
> you can if you want.
>
> I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display
since they
> are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance.
I do also
> agree that they are messy.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
>
> 404.235.7128  Office
> 404.548.4241  Cell
> 404.235.7201  FAX
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
> > wrote:
>>
>> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries)
wanted me to
>> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>>
>> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication
and thought
>> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the
future to take
>> them out?
>>
>> Thanks for any replies.
>> —
>> Rose M. Schooff
>> Technology Consultant
>> Library Development and Networking
>> The Library of Virginia
>> 800 E. Broad Street
>> Richmond, VA  23219
>> 804-692-3772 
>> 804-310-7901 
>>
>



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Linn-Benton Community College
sand...@linnbenton.edu  /
541-917-4655 
Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs




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Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org 


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Sarah Childs]

Ahem, Jason Boyer? Perhaps you could reveal how you have worked this
magic?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Jane Sandberg 
wrote:

> We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
> program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
> anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
> them, and re-import them.
>
> Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
> OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
>  wrote:
> > While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an
> OCLC
> > WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to
> > work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might
> > mean adding them back later.
> >
> > We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input in
> > OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
> > headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them; but,
> > you can if you want.
> >
> > I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since
> they
> > are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do also
> > agree that they are messy.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> > J. Elaine Hardy
> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30045
> >
> > 404.235.7128 Office
> > 404.548.4241 Cell
> > 404.235.7201 FAX
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
> >> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
> >>
> >> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and
> thought
> >> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to
> take
> >> them out?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any replies.
> >> —
> >> Rose M. Schooff
> >> Technology Consultant
> >> Library Development and Networking
> >> The Library of Virginia
> >> 800 E. Broad Street
> >> Richmond, VA  23219
> >> 804-692-3772
> >> 804-310-7901
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jane Sandberg
> Electronic Resources Librarian
> Linn-Benton Community College
> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
>



-- 
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Jane Sandberg]

We have been taking them out of our records.  Terry Reese's MarcEdit
program can generate FAST headings, so if we ever need them for
anything, we can export our bib records, work some MarcEdit magic on
them, and re-import them.

Sarah, I'd be really curious how you were able to hide them from the
OPAC view, if you'd be willing to share!


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Elaine Hardy
 wrote:
> While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an OCLC
> WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to
> work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might
> mean adding them back later.
>
> We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input in
> OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
> headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them; but,
> you can if you want.
>
> I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since they
> are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do also
> agree that they are messy.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> Atlanta, GA 30045
>
> 404.235.7128 Office
> 404.548.4241 Cell
> 404.235.7201 FAX
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA)
>  wrote:
>>
>> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
>> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>>
>> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought
>> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take
>> them out?
>>
>> Thanks for any replies.
>> —
>> Rose M. Schooff
>> Technology Consultant
>> Library Development and Networking
>> The Library of Virginia
>> 800 E. Broad Street
>> Richmond, VA  23219
>> 804-692-3772
>> 804-310-7901
>>
>



-- 
Jane Sandberg
Electronic Resources Librarian
Linn-Benton Community College
sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Elaine Hardy]

While we don't use them, we also don't take them out if they are in an OCLC
WorldCat record that is imported into our database. They are designed to
work more readily with linked data than LCSH, so removing them now might
mean adding them back later.

We don't add them, either to records without them or to original input in
OCLC. OCLC does have a program that runs on a regular basis to add FAST
headings to new cataloging, so they don't ask libraries to add them; but,
you can if you want.

I have been intending exploring hiding them in the OPAC display since they
are duplicates, pretty much, of LCSH, but haven't had a chance. I do also
agree that they are messy.

Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
Atlanta, GA 30045

404.235.7128 Office
404.548.4241 Cell
404.235.7201 FAX

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA) <
rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote:

> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>
> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought
> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take
> them out?
>
> Thanks for any replies.
> —
> Rose M. Schooff
> Technology Consultant
> Library Development and Networking
> The Library of Virginia
> 800 E. Broad Street
> Richmond, VA  23219
> 804-692-3772 <(804)%20692-3772>
> 804-310-7901 <(804)%20310-7901>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Sarah Childs]

We are keeping them in the records, but we are suppressing them so they
don't display in the OPAC.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Schooff, Rose (LVA) <
rose.scho...@lva.virginia.gov> wrote:

> Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to
> ask if you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?
>
> Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought
> it was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take
> them out?
>
> Thanks for any replies.
> —
> Rose M. Schooff
> Technology Consultant
> Library Development and Networking
> The Library of Virginia
> 800 E. Broad Street
> Richmond, VA  23219
> 804-692-3772 <(804)%20692-3772>
> 804-310-7901 <(804)%20310-7901>
>
>


-- 
Sarah Childs
Technical Services Department Head
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 North Fifth Street
Zionsville, IN 46077
317-873-3149 x13330
sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings (Cataloging Type Question)

[Schooff, Rose (LVA)]

Libraries in our consortium (Virginia Evergreen Libraries) wanted me to ask if 
you guys are using the FAST/searchFAST Subject Headings?

Our libraries were saying that it creates a lot of duplication and thought it 
was messy, BUT what harm or damage would it cause in the future to take them 
out?

Thanks for any replies.
—
Rose M. Schooff
Technology Consultant
Library Development and Networking
The Library of Virginia
800 E. Broad Street
Richmond, VA  23219
804-692-3772
804-310-7901