Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Thanks, Josh and & Elaine for your suggested workarounds to my problem! (I failed to peek in my Evergreen email folder yesterday.) -Holly From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Josh Stompro Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:44 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold Holly, I'm late to the conversation, but here is what I think I would do in this situation. I would place all the holds and then suspend any that were currently checked out. I'm assuming they would all be copy holds since you want to evaluate specific copies. I don't believe a suspended hold would block a renewal. There is a bug open about adding back the ability to suspend at time of hold placement that would streamline this part a little bit. Bug 1189989<https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1189989> Then on a regular basis I would run a report showing which of the copies that I have suspended holds on are now (available/reshelving/checked out with no other holds and no more renewals allowed) and activate those holds. I would probably do that for a certain amount of time and then throw up my hands and activate the rest, just to get done with the process in a bounded time period. Or just set a specific activation date when suspending, so they would go live after 2 months, no matter what. An sql query could do the work of checking for availability and activating the holds. If you caught the copy at the stage that it has no other holds and all renewals had been used, then it would be pretty seamless, when activated against available items you will cause more staff work by adding items to the pull list. Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly Brennan Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:40 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group (open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>) Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don't want to prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. In other words, we're looking for something that's the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A "timid" holda pushover that's okay with being sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to Available status. Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there's a way to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! -Holly Holly Brennan Technology Specialist Homer Public Library Homer, Alaska hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov<mailto:hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov> 907-435-3154 (direct) 907-235-3180 (main desk)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Holly, I'm late to the conversation, but here is what I think I would do in this situation. I would place all the holds and then suspend any that were currently checked out. I'm assuming they would all be copy holds since you want to evaluate specific copies. I don't believe a suspended hold would block a renewal. There is a bug open about adding back the ability to suspend at time of hold placement that would streamline this part a little bit. Bug 1189989<https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1189989> Then on a regular basis I would run a report showing which of the copies that I have suspended holds on are now (available/reshelving/checked out with no other holds and no more renewals allowed) and activate those holds. I would probably do that for a certain amount of time and then throw up my hands and activate the rest, just to get done with the process in a bounded time period. Or just set a specific activation date when suspending, so they would go live after 2 months, no matter what. An sql query could do the work of checking for availability and activating the holds. If you caught the copy at the stage that it has no other holds and all renewals had been used, then it would be pretty seamless, when activated against available items you will cause more staff work by adding items to the pull list. Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly Brennan Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:40 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group (open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org) Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don't want to prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. In other words, we're looking for something that's the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A "timid" holda pushover that's okay with being sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to Available status. Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there's a way to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! -Holly Holly Brennan Technology Specialist Homer Public Library Homer, Alaska hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov<mailto:hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov> 907-435-3154 (direct) 907-235-3180 (main desk)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
What about suspending the hold and then editing for an activate date? You would need to estimate the date based on the number of holds -- would that add too much to the workflow to make it a viable work around? J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service/PINES 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 Atlanta, GA 30045 404.235.7128 Office 404.548.4241 Cell 404.235.7201 FAX On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Morgan, Michele wrote: > Hi Holly, > > A quick test indicates that -1 yields a *higher* priority than 0, so > Thomas's suggestion of setting to 1 should do the trick for the priority. > As pointed out in irc, though, the staff holds would still block renewals. > > I assume this would not be the case if the library setting "Block Renewal > of Items Needed for Holds" is set to false. > > -Michele > > -- > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst > North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts > mmor...@noblenet.org > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Holly Brennan > wrote: > >> Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas! >> >> Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission >> groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff >> to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1? >> >> Thanks for the clarification! >> >> -Holly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc >> e...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM >> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold >> >> MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you >> have it backwards. >> >> Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, >> -1 will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This >> is due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed >> to go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting >> of all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed. >> >> This confused me when I first configured it. >> >> Thomas Berezansky >> Assistant Network Administrator >> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium >> 4 High ST, Suite 175 >> North Andover, MA 01845 >> Phone: 978-557-8161 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc >> e...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03 >> To: Evergreen Discussion Group > libraries.org> >> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold >> >> Hi Holly, >> >> >> In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a >> permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default >> it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative >> number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for >> holds. >> >> >> I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Michele >> >> >> -- >> Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst >> >> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts >> mmor...@noblenet.org <mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva > cer...@jabok.cz> > wrote: >> >> >> Hi Holly, >> >> when we need to catch particular copy of material that is >> circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the >> "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) >> the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be >> taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could >> affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been >> deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. >> >> I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I >> understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert >> message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more >> on hold). >> >> >> Eva >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> Mgr. Eva Ce
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Holly, That should be correct. Note, though, that how effective that is will depend on your hold sort order. If the priority isn't actually being looked at (say, your sort cares about pickup to checkin library proximity and request date only) then it won't help. You may want or need to move priority to the top, or near top, of the sort order to get your desired results. Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly Brennan Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 15:34 To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas! Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1? Thanks for the clarification! -Holly -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you have it backwards. Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, -1 will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This is due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed to go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting of all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed. This confused me when I first configured it. Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03 To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold Hi Holly, In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for holds. I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. Hope this helps, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org <mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> > wrote: Hi Holly, when we need to catch particular copy of material that is circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more on hold). Eva --- Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková cer...@jabok.cz <mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> Tel. +420 211 222 409 Knihovna Jabok http:/https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,4LkrwcDe4UphDxdvf0rRMWPT4CWyzcXd9KdQoUu5h0Em6Ax2ssuloygBUU2y2Dn8NlgEWU_AgK41E4Qt2OVlP_FvQfFOYGHdXhh2E4TI&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,J9bGTQZmGFCyLHLnY3bVO5F2jNnnquRlNXJ2IC8u6JKw-VeyYv_ppEtLKcSd5MaVEMOQbZL3IueLii8lR8gTJgGCDVqHLbhN0rq5c-TB5sA,&typo=1> Tel. +420 211 222 410 Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> >: I agree that this would be useful. Benjamin Kalish Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> Currently reading: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Hi Holly, A quick test indicates that -1 yields a *higher* priority than 0, so Thomas's suggestion of setting to 1 should do the trick for the priority. As pointed out in irc, though, the staff holds would still block renewals. I assume this would not be the case if the library setting "Block Renewal of Items Needed for Holds" is set to false. -Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Holly Brennan wrote: > Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas! > > Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission > groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff > to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1? > > Thanks for the clarification! > > -Holly > > -Original Message- > From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general- > boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold > > MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you > have it backwards. > > Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, -1 > will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This is > due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed to > go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting of > all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed. > > This confused me when I first configured it. > > Thomas Berezansky > Assistant Network Administrator > Merrimack Valley Library Consortium > 4 High ST, Suite 175 > North Andover, MA 01845 > Phone: 978-557-8161 > > -Original Message- > From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general- > boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03 > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold > > Hi Holly, > > > In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a > permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default > it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative > number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for > holds. > > > I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. > > > Hope this helps, > > Michele > > > -- > Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst > > North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts > mmor...@noblenet.org <mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva cer...@jabok.cz> > wrote: > > > Hi Holly, > > when we need to catch particular copy of material that is > circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the > "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) > the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be > taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could > affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been > deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. > > I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I > understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert > message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more > on hold). > > > Eva > > > > > > > > --- > Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková > cer...@jabok.cz <mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> > Tel. +420 211 222 409 > > Knihovna Jabok > http:/https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https:// > knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,4LkrwcDe4UphDxdvf0rRMWPT4CWyzc > Xd9KdQoUu5h0Em6Ax2ssuloygBUU2y2Dn8NlgEWU_AgK41E4Qt2OVlP_ > FvQfFOYGHdXhh2E4TI&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc. > com/url?a=http://knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,J9bGTQZmGFCyLHLnY3bVO5F2jNnnqu > RlNXJ2IC8u6JKw-VeyYv_ppEtLKcSd5MaVEMOQbZL3IueLii8lR > 8gTJgGCDVqHLbhN0rq5c-TB5sA,&typo=1> > Tel. +420 211 222 410 > > Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická > Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 > > > > 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish < > bkal...@forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> >: > > > I agree that this would be useful. > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Thanks, Eva, Michele, and Thomas! Seeing that we have never messed with Hold Priority, all our permission groups currently have Hold Priority = 0. So if I want our cataloging staff to have their holds "coast" along, I should set their Hold Priority to 1? Thanks for the clarification! -Holly -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you have it backwards. Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, -1 will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This is due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed to go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting of all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed. This confused me when I first configured it. Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03 To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold Hi Holly, In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for holds. I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. Hope this helps, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org <mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> > wrote: Hi Holly, when we need to catch particular copy of material that is circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more on hold). Eva --- Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková cer...@jabok.cz <mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> Tel. +420 211 222 409 Knihovna Jabok http:/https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,4LkrwcDe4UphDxdvf0rRMWPT4CWyzcXd9KdQoUu5h0Em6Ax2ssuloygBUU2y2Dn8NlgEWU_AgK41E4Qt2OVlP_FvQfFOYGHdXhh2E4TI&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://knihovna.jabok.cz&c=E,1,J9bGTQZmGFCyLHLnY3bVO5F2jNnnquRlNXJ2IC8u6JKw-VeyYv_ppEtLKcSd5MaVEMOQbZL3IueLii8lR8gTJgGCDVqHLbhN0rq5c-TB5sA,&typo=1> Tel. +420 211 222 410 Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> >: I agree that this would be useful. Benjamin Kalish Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> Currently reading: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr Just Finished: Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot by Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer For information about accessibility at the library, please see: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/&c=E,1,89Wb_m8i_Nl2dPT79r5CP-0BRNxyFaS0cShf5RoGnv9dmYg3vLQudp9M1jTnar-Y7ZUy3gcTZbSHJbrWWiunnELVv8V5nn_p04TZ7KjIjDAQs8IEjEyHTV0,&typo=1 <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/&c=E,1,-dJOCYOeHDIE8fZxD_NnJGF_wDXbztfRg9ipfBsMoijCLpr4xJidZpdM9x6rDCQORUa9EJjZUCyU6OhHDONT6pNJj6MSGym-vYMxvNFLOiQ,&typo=1> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan mailto:haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us> > wrote: A staff member n
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
MVLC uses that functionality for ILL cards, though as far as I know you have it backwards. Due to how the sorting works a higher value is lower priority. That is, -1 will come before 0 which will come before 1, all else being equal. This is due to the fact that it is sorted as a number, as-is. If it is supposed to go the other direction then some code changes (and probably an inverting of all configured values in an upgrade script) would be needed. This confused me when I first configured it. Thomas Berezansky Assistant Network Administrator Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 4 High ST, Suite 175 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-8161 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Morgan, Michele Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:03 To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold Hi Holly, In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for holds. I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. Hope this helps, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org <mailto:mmor...@noblenet.org> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> > wrote: Hi Holly, when we need to catch particular copy of material that is circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more on hold). Eva --- Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková cer...@jabok.cz <mailto:cer...@jabok.cz> Tel. +420 211 222 409 Knihovna Jabok http:/knihovna.jabok.cz <http://knihovna.jabok.cz> Tel. +420 211 222 410 Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> >: I agree that this would be useful. Benjamin Kalish Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org <mailto:bkal...@forbeslibrary.org> Currently reading: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr Just Finished: Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot by Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer For information about accessibility at the library, please see: http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/ <http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan mailto:haderh...@ci.homer.ak.us> > wrote: A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. In other words, we’re looking for something that’s the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a pushover that’s okay with being sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to Available status. Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there’s a way to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! -Holly Holly Brennan Technology Specialist Homer Public Library Homer, Alaska hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov <mailto:hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov> 907-435-3154 (direct) 907-235-3180 (main desk)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Hi Holly, In terms of existing functionality, you can assign a "Hold Priority" to a permission group in Admin -> Server Admin -> Permission Groups. By default it's zero, and you can set it to a positive or negative number. A negative number would give a user in that permission group a lower priority for holds. I haven't tested this out, but it may work for your situation. Hope this helps, Michele -- Michele M. Morgan, Technical Support Analyst North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Cerninakova Eva wrote: > Hi Holly, > > when we need to catch particular copy of material that is circulating at a > time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the "Alert message" in > copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) the message pops > out and the staff is alerted that an action should be taken with the copy > (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could affect the popping > out). The alert message pops out until it has been deleted. It is possible > to apply the alert message to more copies at once. > > I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I understand > that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert message > every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more on > hold). > > Eva > > > > > > > --- > Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková > cer...@jabok.cz > Tel. +420 211 222 409 > > Knihovna Jabok > http:/knihovna.jabok.cz > Tel. +420 211 222 410 > > Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická > Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 > > > 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish : > >> I agree that this would be useful. >> >> Benjamin Kalish >> Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org >> >> Currently reading: *All the Light We Cannot See* by Anthony Doerr >> Just Finished: *Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot *by >> Patricia >> C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer >> >> For information about accessibility at the library, please see: >> http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/ >> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan >> wrote: >> >>> A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical >>> condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to prevent patrons from >>> renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. >>> >>> >>> >>> In other words, we’re looking for something that’s the opposite of the >>> force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a pushover that’s okay with being >>> sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the >>> item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to >>> Available status. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there’s a way >>> to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Holly >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Holly Brennan >>> >>> Technology Specialist >>> >>> Homer Public Library >>> >>> Homer, Alaska >>> >>> >>> >>> hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov >>> >>> 907-435-3154 (direct) >>> >>> 907-235-3180 (main desk) >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
Hi Holly, when we need to catch particular copy of material that is circulating at a time and don't want to place a hold, we usually use the "Alert message" in copy editor. When the copy is being checked in (or out) the message pops out and the staff is alerted that an action should be taken with the copy (I am not sure if there isn´t any settling that could affect the popping out). The alert message pops out until it has been deleted. It is possible to apply the alert message to more copies at once. I think this might solve your problem temporarily (though I understand that it might be complication to confirm the overriding of alert message every time the DVD is being checked in/out until the DVD is no more on hold). Eva --- Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková cer...@jabok.cz Tel. +420 211 222 409 Knihovna Jabok http:/knihovna.jabok.cz Tel. +420 211 222 410 Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2 2016-10-08 16:59 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Kalish : > I agree that this would be useful. > > Benjamin Kalish > Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org > > Currently reading: *All the Light We Cannot See* by Anthony Doerr > Just Finished: *Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot *by Patricia > C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer > > For information about accessibility at the library, please see: > http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/ > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan > wrote: > >> A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical >> condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to prevent patrons from >> renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. >> >> >> >> In other words, we’re looking for something that’s the opposite of the >> force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a pushover that’s okay with being >> sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the >> item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to >> Available status. >> >> >> >> Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there’s a way >> to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! >> >> >> >> -Holly >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Holly Brennan >> >> Technology Specialist >> >> Homer Public Library >> >> Homer, Alaska >> >> >> >> hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov >> >> 907-435-3154 (direct) >> >> 907-235-3180 (main desk) >> >> >> > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
I agree that this would be useful. Benjamin Kalish Forbes Library / 413-587-1012 / bkal...@forbeslibrary.org Currently reading: *All the Light We Cannot See* by Anthony Doerr Just Finished: *Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot *by Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline Stevermer For information about accessibility at the library, please see: http://forbeslibrary.org/accessibility/ On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Holly Brennan wrote: > A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical > condition, but is in no rush. We don’t want to prevent patrons from > renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. > > > > In other words, we’re looking for something that’s the opposite of the > force/recall hold types. A “timid” hold….a pushover that’s okay with being > sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the > item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to > Available status. > > > > Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there’s a way > to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! > > > > -Holly > > > > > > > > Holly Brennan > > Technology Specialist > > Homer Public Library > > Homer, Alaska > > > > hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov > > 907-435-3154 (direct) > > 907-235-3180 (main desk) > > >
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] opposite of force/recall hold
A staff member needs to put a lot of DVDs on hold to assess the physical condition, but is in no rush. We don't want to prevent patrons from renewing items they have just because of our staff hold. In other words, we're looking for something that's the opposite of the force/recall hold types. A "timid" holda pushover that's okay with being sent to the back of the line until absolutely no one else cares about the item. It would speak up only after the item is checked in and moves to Available status. Anyone else feel this would be a useful addition? Or maybe there's a way to make this process work with the existing ILS functions? Thanks! -Holly Holly Brennan Technology Specialist Homer Public Library Homer, Alaska hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov 907-435-3154 (direct) 907-235-3180 (main desk)
