Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

[Jane Sandberg]

I like the sound of these changes.  The more uniformity there is across
Evergreen's many different interfaces, the better.

If possible, though, it would be great for your new design to be more
accessibility-focused than the current patron search form is.  That search
form does not have accessible form controls, which makes it less usable for
folks using screen readers or who have motor disabilities.  More info here:
https://webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Elaine Hardy 
wrote:

> I think the proposed changes to the display would be good. As would the
> addition of navigation from within records.
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
> 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
> 
> Atlanta, GA 30045
> 
>
> 404.235.7128 <(404)%20235-7128> Office
> 404.548.4241 <(404)%20548-4241> Cell
> 404.235.7201 <(404)%20235-7201> FAX
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Sarah Childs  > wrote:
>
>> These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
>> makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
>> about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
>> of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
>> more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
>> examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
>> able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
>> useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
>>> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
>>> look like.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXv
>>> i7yTssMpuYw2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>> Jeanette
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Sarah,
 Thank you for the feedback.

 I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at
 1280 x 1024 resolution.
 On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons
 and 7 rows of the search result
 On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
 and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
 before having to scroll.

 I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
 library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
 vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
 the search button.

 I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if
 you think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
 Thanks!

 On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:

> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-il
> s-general
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
>   Expo (Kathy Lussier)
>2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
> From: Kathy Lussier 
> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
> 
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
> California Linux Expo
> Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi all,
>
> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project
> would
> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

[Elaine Hardy]

I think the proposed changes to the display would be good. As would the
addition of navigation from within records.



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service/PINES
1800 Century Place, Ste. 150
Atlanta, GA 30045

404.235.7128 Office
404.548.4241 Cell
404.235.7201 FAX

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Sarah Childs 
wrote:

> These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
> makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
> about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
> of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
> more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
> examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
> able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
> useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
>> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
>> look like.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXv
>> i7yTssMpuYw2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>> Jeanette
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>>
>>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280
>>> x 1024 resolution.
>>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and
>>> 7 rows of the search result
>>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>>> before having to scroll.
>>>
>>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>>> the search button.
>>>
>>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if
>>> you think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, >> .georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>>
 Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to
 open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org

 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-il
 s-general
 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org

 You can reach the person managing the list at
 open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org

 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
 than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..."


 Today's Topics:

1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
   Expo (Kathy Lussier)
2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)


 --

 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
 From: Kathy Lussier 
 To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
 
 Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
 California Linux Expo
 Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 Hi all,

 One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
 us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
 be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
 project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
 interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
 booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
 would be able to send you some materials for the booth.

 Kathy

 --
 Kathy Lussier
 Project Coordinator
 Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
 (508) 343-0128
 kluss...@masslnc.org
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier



 --

 Message: 2
 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
 From: Sarah Childs 
 To: Evergreen Discussion Group
 
 Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
 Message-ID:
 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

[Sarah Childs]

These proposed changes seem unobjectionable to me. For my purposes, it
makes it neither worse, nor significantly better. I'm not highly concerned
about having a lot of room for my search results to be listed, because most
of the searches I perform retrieve fewer than five results. If a search has
more results than that, the time consuming part is not scrolling, it's
examining each record to evaluate and compare them. So I still think being
able to arrow through the records in display view would be a much more
useful, functional change than making more room for the list of records.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
wrote:

> Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
> mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
> look like.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXvi7yTssMpuYw
> 2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
> Jeanette
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarah,
>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>
>> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280
>> x 1024 resolution.
>> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and
>> 7 rows of the search result
>> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons
>> and 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows
>> before having to scroll.
>>
>> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
>> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
>> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
>> the search button.
>>
>> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you
>> think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, > .georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to
>>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-il
>>> s-general
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org
>>>
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
>>>   Expo (Kathy Lussier)
>>>2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
>>> From: Kathy Lussier 
>>> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
>>> 
>>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
>>> California Linux Expo
>>> Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
>>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
>>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
>>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
>>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
>>> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
>>> would be able to send you some materials for the booth.
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kathy Lussier
>>> Project Coordinator
>>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>>> (508) 343-0128
>>> kluss...@masslnc.org
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>>> From: Sarah Childs 
>>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

[Jeanette Lundgren]

Here is a link to a screenshot of the current Z39.50 search query and a
mockup of what a horizontal display (modeled after the patron search) might
look like.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17_2g_W6qZGufwdOuMLP0hRXvi7yTssMpuYw2rianMJQ/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks for your feedback!
Jeanette

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Jeanette Lundgren 
wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> Thank you for the feedback.
>
> I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280 x
> 1024 resolution.
> On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and 7
> rows of the search result
> On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons and
> 21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows before
> having to scroll.
>
> I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
> library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
> vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
> the search button.
>
> I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you
> think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
> Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM,  list.georgialibraries.org> wrote:
>
>> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to
>> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-
>> ils-general
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
>>   Expo (Kathy Lussier)
>>2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
>> From: Kathy Lussier 
>> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
>> 
>> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
>> California Linux Expo
>> Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
>> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
>> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
>> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
>> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
>> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
>> would be able to send you some materials for the booth.
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>> --
>> Kathy Lussier
>> Project Coordinator
>> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>> (508) 343-0128
>> kluss...@masslnc.org
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
>> From: Sarah Childs 
>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
>> Message-ID:
>> 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9

[Jeanette Lundgren]

Hi Sarah,
Thank you for the feedback.

I'm using a 20" horizontal monitor (about 10.5" tall x 18" wide) at 1280 x
1024 resolution.
On the Z39.50 Query screen, I can see the query form, search buttons and 7
rows of the search result
On the patron search screen, I can see the search form, search buttons and
21 rows of the search result and when minimized I can see 28 rows before
having to scroll.

I know scrolling largely depends on monitor size and resolution.  The
library staff member who brought this up needs to use a bigger font for
vision and she finds on her resolution she has to scroll just to see/click
the search button.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has had this issue reported and if you
think making the two interfaces more consistent would be beneficial.
Thanks!

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <
open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/
> listinfo/open-ils-general
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Opportunity for donated booth at Southern California Linux
>   Expo (Kathy Lussier)
>2. Re: Web Client - Z39.50 Interface (Sarah Childs)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:03:24 -0500
> From: Kathy Lussier 
> To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group'
> 
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Opportunity for donated booth at Southern
> California Linux Expo
> Message-ID: <2bfbf865-957a-e4d5-1901-c499d5794...@masslnc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi all,
>
> One of the organizers from the Southern California Linux Expo contacted
> us via the Evergreen Facebook page to ask if the Evergreen project would
> be interested in a donated booth at the conference to help promote the
> project to attendees. If there is anyone in the area who might be
> interested in attending the conference and talking about Evergreen at a
> booth, feel free to send me an email directly. The Outreach Committee
> would be able to send you some materials for the booth.
>
> Kathy
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128
> kluss...@masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:41:14 -0500
> From: Sarah Childs 
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group
> 
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Web Client - Z39.50 Interface
> Message-ID:
>