Re: [Open-scap] Phasing out the RHEL6 CI

2019-02-26 Thread Marek Haicman
I agree with Shawn. From technical perspective - we haven't had special 
RHEL6 maintenance branch in the github project. It is the same maint-1.2 
which was further developed for use in RHEL7. So honestly - whatever is 
working on current maint-1.2 branch (version 1.2.17) will probably not 
be trivial to backport to RHEL6 codebase anyway (version 1.2.13, 1000 
commits behind). So any RHEL6 fix will have be bespoke.


But we are still committed to fix urgent stuff as needed, regardless of 
state of upstream CI


Marek


On 2/26/19 6:20 PM, Shawn Wells wrote:


On 2/26/19 12:07 PM, Boucher, William wrote:
My only concern is that sometimes a government customer will mandate 
using some flavor of RHEL 6, for whatever reason they may have. For 
example, we have a government customer mandating we use 6.5 at the 
moment. And they are perfectly happy to have us STIG the 6.5 OS 
manually, page by page, if there is no way to automate it.



The end of RHEL 6's maintenance support 2 phase isn't until 30-NOV-2020 
[0]. Until then OpenSCAP should be prepared to release security 
advisories (RHSAs) and urgent bug fixes (RHBAs) for OpenSCAP.


Developers judgement call whether downstream RHSAs and RHBAs can be 
released in a timely, high-quality manner, without an upstream CI.


In reality there may have been little to no RHSAs or RHBAs for OpenSCAP. 
However it's the Red Hat brand promise that if there ever are, we'll be 
ready.



[0] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata

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Re: [Open-scap] Phasing out the RHEL6 CI

2019-02-26 Thread Shawn Wells



On 2/26/19 12:07 PM, Boucher, William wrote:

My only concern is that sometimes a government customer will mandate using some 
flavor of RHEL 6, for whatever reason they may have. For example, we have a 
government customer mandating we use 6.5 at the moment. And they are perfectly 
happy to have us STIG the 6.5 OS manually, page by page, if there is no way to 
automate it.



The end of RHEL 6's maintenance support 2 phase isn't until 30-NOV-2020 
[0]. Until then OpenSCAP should be prepared to release security 
advisories (RHSAs) and urgent bug fixes (RHBAs) for OpenSCAP.


Developers judgement call whether downstream RHSAs and RHBAs can be 
released in a timely, high-quality manner, without an upstream CI.


In reality there may have been little to no RHSAs or RHBAs for OpenSCAP. 
However it's the Red Hat brand promise that if there ever are, we'll be 
ready.



[0] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata

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Re: [Open-scap] Phasing out the RHEL6 CI

2019-02-26 Thread Boucher, William
My only concern is that sometimes a government customer will mandate using some 
flavor of RHEL 6, for whatever reason they may have. For example, we have a 
government customer mandating we use 6.5 at the moment. And they are perfectly 
happy to have us STIG the 6.5 OS manually, page by page, if there is no way to 
automate it. 

William B. Boucher, BSEE
Embedded Systems Software Engineer 
Information Systems Security Manager
MZA Associates Corporation
4900 Lang Ave. NE, Suite 100
Albuquerque, NM 87109-9708
Phone: 505.245.9970 x166
Fax: 505.245.9971
Cell: 505.459.7620
william.bouc...@mza.com


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[mailto:open-scap-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Matej Týc
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:12 AM
To: open-scap-list@redhat.com
Subject: [Open-scap] Phasing out the RHEL6 CI

Dear community,

the possibility to build the OpenSCAP "oscap" suite on RHEL6 using those dated 
utilities s.a. python2.6 is becoming a luxury. Sometimes, passing the CI for 
RHEL6 requires some weird workarounds that take time to design and implement 
and those workarounds just complicate the code, they don't bring benefits.

As RHEL6 won't get any significant updates, the ability to compile recent 
versions of the scanner suite on RHEL6 seems irrelevant. Do you, our precious 
community around the project, have arguments why the RHEL6 should be part of 
the CI?

If there are no agreed-upon reasons to do otherwise, we are leaning towards 
switching the RHEL6 CI off within two weeks, i.e. in the first half of March.

On behalf of the Brno Security Compliance team, Matěj Týč

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