Schematron supports at least some calculations, but probably not
elaborate ones. I'm not sure what
is needed here. The sume of the score of 10 values is something that
it can do:
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/SchematronTutorial/Examples/Example13/example.html
although I'm not sure about floating poi
David W. Forslund wrote:
>I've been looking at schematron for doing the "equivalent" of archetype in
>a more general situation, particularly since there as been no ADL parser
>available in Java. Schematron seems to be reasonably popular for
>enforcing rules for XML data structures and there is a
Heath Frankel wrote:
>Dear Sam, etal,
>
>I wonder if the specialised schema approach for archetypes is one that
>openEHR should encourage. Not so much discourage the investigation but at
>least indicate to those who are going down this route that previous work by
>Ocean and DSTC has indicated tha
Read the text below.
Gerard
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Convenor CEN/TC251 WG1
TNO Quality of Life
Wassenaarseweg 56
Leiden
PostBox 2215
22301CE Leiden
The Netherlands
+31 71 5181388
+31 654 792800
On 10 Mar 2005, at 22:21, Sam Heard wrote:
> Jose
>
> Hi - this is a difficult time with the 136
Hi,
I'm only the convenor of the CEN/TC251 wg1.
For more detailed information you need to read the e-mails by Dipak
Kalra, Thomas Beale and Sam Heard.
In the text below soem comments.
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Gerard Freriks, MD
Convenor CEN/TC251 WG1
TNO Quality of Life
Wassenaarseweg 56
Leiden
PostBox 2215
22
Jose
Hi - this is a difficult time with the 13606 standard about to hit the
streets and the technology having been developed in the openEHR space.
The openEHR approach is now considerably richer than 13606 and will, we
hope, be the development space.
You can do pretty much everything in 13606
Jose Alberto Maldonado wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have just read the message bellow and honestly we do not understand
> anything now. We supposed that EN13606-1 reference model could be used as
> reference model for developing archetypes.
> You can read in prEN13606-2 (last version February 2005), se
Hello,
We have just read the message bellow and honestly we do not understand
anything now. We supposed that EN13606-1 reference model could be used as
reference model for developing archetypes.
You can read in prEN13606-2 (last version February 2005), section 1.3.
Communicating archetypes: "I
Linden H van der (MI) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>without much knowledge of Schematron, I believe it is good for
>expressing validation rules, but I wonder if it can actually be used to
>express calculations, like the BMI or the Barthel Index (sum of the
>score of 10 values).
>
>I'm currently looking at XQuery
Heath Frankel wrote:
>Dear Sam, etal,
>
>I wonder if the specialised schema approach for archetypes is one that
>openEHR should encourage. Not so much discourage the investigation but at
>least indicate to those who are going down this route that previous work by
>Ocean and DSTC has indicated tha
David W. Forslund wrote:
>I've been looking at schematron for doing the "equivalent" of archetype in
>a more general situation, particularly since there as been no ADL parser
>available in Java. Schematron seems to be reasonably popular for
>enforcing rules for XML data structures and there is a
Gavin Brelstaff wrote:
>> o generate a sensible XML. If you are interested in doing some work
>> on this we could collaborate.
>
>
> There are some less heavy ways of doing XML rule checking that
> avoid most of the irrational intricacies of the W3C Schema.
> Did you ever explore
> Jim Clark's Re
Alfonso Mata wrote:
>Hello everybody,
>
>We're working at University of Zaragoza (Spain) on a EHR system. We
>want to conform to 13606 and make use of ADL-based archetypes. We are
>just starting and we have lots of doubts about how to implement and
>apply all concepts. These are our questions:
>
>
Hi,
without much knowledge of Schematron, I believe it is good for
expressing validation rules, but I wonder if it can actually be used to
express calculations, like the BMI or the Barthel Index (sum of the
score of 10 values).
I'm currently looking at XQuery that can do such things.
Bye, Helma
March, 2005 23:45
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: RE: MCAFEE E-MAIL SCAN ALERT!~RE: ADL TO XML SCHEMA
Hi guys,
Maybe we can help.
As David and Sam know I'm working on archetypes too and for now
I've created my very
Schematron supports at least some calculations, but probably not
elaborate ones. I'm not sure what
is needed here. The sume of the score of 10 values is something that
it can do:
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/SchematronTutorial/Examples/Example13/example.html
although I'm not sure about floating poi
Dave
I am not familiar with Schematron. I have had a look on the web, at some
tutorials etc - and it is available in the Oxygen editor that I use.
Generally the openEHR approach has been to apply archetypes to the
reference model in memory. This works well and is proven.
What you are proposing
Sam Heard wrote:
> Dave
>
> I am not familiar with Schematron. I have had a look on the web, at
> some tutorials etc - and it is available in the Oxygen editor that I
> use. Generally the openEHR approach has been to apply archetypes to
> the reference model in memory. This works well and is pr
enehr-technical at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Sam Heard
> Sent: Wednesday, 09 March 2005 23:11
> To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
> Subject: MCAFEE E-MAIL SCAN ALERT!~RE: ADL TO XML SCHEMA
>
>
> Attachment file : openEHR-EHR-OBSERVATION.blood_pressure.v1.adl
> Vir
11:28
> To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
> Subject: Re: ADL to XML Schema
>
>
> David W. Forslund
>
> Good to see you sniffing around! The key issue for us in ADL is that
> Eiffel is not UNICODE compliant. There will be a number of
> Java parsers
> soon, and I hope a JAVA
David W. Forslund
Good to see you sniffing around! The key issue for us in ADL is that
Eiffel is not UNICODE compliant. There will be a number of Java parsers
soon, and I hope a JAVA archetype editor.
I am interested in what you can do with Schematron as well as another
implementation route...
What I would like to do is automatically translate from an ADL description
to a schematron description. Hopefully, this is semantically possible.
Dave
On Tue, March 8, 2005 5:58 pm, Sam Heard said:
> David W. Forslund
>
> Good to see you sniffing around! The key issue for us in ADL is that
> Eiff
Hi Alfonso
Have just returned from an all-day meeting on archetypes and I think Ill
be able to answer your first question as well now.
Alfonso Mata wrote:
>
>- How 13606 is applied to built ADL archetypes? Is it already possible?
>
>
The latest draft of EN13606 archetypes is due to be reviewe
Rahil Qamar wrote:
> Hi Alfonso
>
> I can answer one of your questions for certain and am not very sure
> about another one.
>
> Alfonso Mata wrote:
>
>> - Is it possible to obtain a XML-Schema based on 13606 from an ADL file?
>>
>>
> You can obtain an XML representation of the ADL Archetype
Thanks Rahil,
I mean, is there another parser available with similar features?
Alfonso Mata
University of Zaragoza, Spain
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:06:38 +, Rahil Qamar wrote:
> Hi Alfonso
>
> I can answer one of your questions for certain and am not very sure
> about another one.
>
> Alfons
Gavin Brelstaff wrote:
> Rahil Qamar wrote:
>
>>>
>> You can obtain an XML representation of the ADL Archetype from the
>> Archetype Editor but not an XML Schema. Atleast not at the moment.
>> However Im trying to write out a schema based on the UML Archetype
>> Object Model. Its not proving
Alfonso Mata wrote:
>Thanks Rahil,
>
>I mean, is there another parser available with similar features?
>
>
>
The ADL Parser is, as far as I am aware, the only one with parsing
capabilities. I think there is some work being done by people in Sweden
which might be close. However the official v
Hello everybody,
We're working at University of Zaragoza (Spain) on a EHR system. We
want to conform to 13606 and make use of ADL-based archetypes. We are
just starting and we have lots of doubts about how to implement and
apply all concepts. These are our questions:
- How 13606 is applied to bui
Hi Alfonso
I can answer one of your questions for certain and am not very sure
about another one.
Alfonso Mata wrote:
>- Is it possible to obtain a XML-Schema based on 13606 from an ADL file?
>
>
You can obtain an XML representation of the ADL Archetype from the
Archetype Editor but not an X
I've been looking at schematron for doing the "equivalent" of archetype in
a more general situation, particularly since there as been no ADL parser
available in Java. Schematron seems to be reasonably popular for
enforcing rules for XML data structures and there is a variety of software
available
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