Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-04-05 Thread Thomas Beale
On 01/04/2010 20:04, Fabrice Camous wrote: Hi all, If we pretend that the reference model describes paper-based components, where our objects are folders, separators, sheets, it means that our archetypes lead to very structured pages (ignoring the folder and separator arrangements),

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-04-01 Thread Fabrice Camous
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 2:47 AM To: openEHR-technical at openehr.org Subject: Re: Term bindings in archetypes and templates Thanks Stef, It's a nice paper indeed, and it formulates the confusions I had about SNOMED, which is covering different perspectives of the medical reality

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-19 Thread Sam Heard
Sent: den 11 mars 2010 01:46 To: openehr-technical at chime.ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: Term bindings in archetypes and templates Hi Mikael, You may be interested in our mapping tool, Snapper, which is designed to tackle this problem for mapping to (not from) SNOMED CT. It provides

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Mikael Nyström
Thomas Beale wrote: On 10/03/2010 22:16, Mikael Nystr?m wrote: I belong to a group that, except for openEHR related research, also do research about terminology systems and terminology systems mapping. During mapping from one terminology system to another terminology system is it quite

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread michael.law...@csiro.au
Hi Mikael, You may be interested in our mapping tool, Snapper, which is designed to tackle this problem for mapping to (not from) SNOMED CT. It provides extensive support for mapping to post-coordinated expressions where single-concept maps are not possible and can be used to create

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Sebastian Garde
Mikael Nystr?m wrote: I agree that we have to wait and see how much problems we will get. That was also my reason to reply to Sebastian's e-mail which told that there is no problem to add terminology bindings after the archetypes are finalized. However, I didn't refer to theoretical worst

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Stef Verlinden
[mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Michael.Lawley at csiro.au Sent: den 11 mars 2010 01:46 To: openehr-technical at chime.ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: Term bindings in archetypes and templates Hi Mikael, You may be interested in our mapping tool, Snapper, which

Snomed ontological solidity (was term bindings in archetypes and templates)

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Beale
On 11/03/2010 11:59, Stef Verlinden wrote: For those of you interested in the 'problems' within Snomed as an ontology, here (http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3465/version/1) you can find a good and recent article describing them. This doesn't mean we shouldn't use Snomed, but knowing

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Sheng,Yu
Hi Sebastien, Thanks for the comments and advice. See my brief notes below. To allow an empty purpose there is an option in the Java Parser (one of the parameters when constructing the Parser). If set to true, it should parse these archetypes ok. (Note that however according to the openEHR

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Sheng,Yu
Dear Thomas, Mikael and Michael Thanks for the useful comments which I will try to digest and incorporate into my study. I note that two of my original questions remain unanswered - Are there any mature templates - linked to existing archetypes which I could use to extract bindings? These

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Beale
On 11/03/2010 15:57, Sheng,Yu wrote: If term bindings or constraint bindings exist in Archetypes before they are made into templates, how are the terminology subsets subsequently added to templates? Are they completely new termsets, somehow-related-to, or ontologically-subsumed-by the

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Fabrice Camous
: Term bindings in archetypes and templates Hi Mikael, You may be interested in our mapping tool, Snapper, which is designed to tackle this problem for mapping to (not from) SNOMED CT. It provides extensive support for mapping to post-coordinated expressions where single-concept maps

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Fabrice Camous
: Re: Term bindings in archetypes and templates Hi Mikael, You may be interested in our mapping tool, Snapper, which is designed to tackle this problem for mapping to (not from) SNOMED CT. It provides extensive support for mapping to post-coordinated expressions where single-concept maps

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread gjb
On 11-Mar-10 12:59, Stef Verlinden wrote: For those of you interested in the 'problems' within Snomed as an ontology, here (http://precedings.nature.com/documents/3465/version/1) you can find a good and recent article describing them. This doesn't mean we shouldn't use Snomed, but knowing

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Sheng, A few of my comments below... Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com ian at mcmi.co.uk Clinical Analyst Ocean Informatics openEHR Archetype Editorial Group Member BCS Primary Health Care

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Beale
On 11/03/2010 17:07, Fabrice Camous wrote: Thanks Stef, It's a nice paper indeed, and it formulates the confusions I had about SNOMED, which is covering different perspectives of the medical reality. But this leads me to questions I have precisely about the bindings of the ontology part of

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-10 Thread Sheng,Yu
Hi Rong (All), (I hope that this is the right mailing list) I am part of an Irish project called EHRland which is looking at two-level models for e-health and trying to understand the openEHR architecture as well. I myself am looking at correspondences between archetype nodes and clinical

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-10 Thread Sebastian Garde
Hi Sheng, Your project sounds very interesting! My attempt to answer your first two questions is below. Cheers Sebastian Sheng,Yu wrote: Hi Rong (All), (I hope that this is the right mailing list) I am part of an Irish project called EHRland which is looking at two-level models for

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-10 Thread Mikael Nyström
Sebastian Garde wrote: Hi, 2) Another question is in relation to templates. If a significant number of term bindings happen at the template rather than Archetype level, are term bindings in Archetypes optional and open to further constraint even after an archetype is released in CKM?

Term bindings in archetypes and templates

2010-03-10 Thread Thomas Beale
On 10/03/2010 22:16, Mikael Nystr?m wrote: I belong to a group that, except for openEHR related research, also do research about terminology systems and terminology systems mapping. During mapping from one terminology system to another terminology system is it quite common to be unable to map