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2003-11-22 Thread Christopher Feahr
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2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Beale
Philippe AMELINE wrote: > Hi to all, > > We are currently experiencing such things ; it is not easy to have > people understand the difference between description (As accurate as > possible), local study (question 5 can be answered 5.1, 5.2...) and > studies using classifications such as ICD or

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2003-10-02 Thread Philippe AMELINE
Hi to all, At 04:43 02/10/2003 -0400, Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: >b >>) these archetypes will have local vocabulary which defines meanings >>for exactly what terms need to mean in the exact context of the archetypes. > > >Yes, but, if this is going to be constructed, it is wise to already l

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2003-10-02 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
Dear all, Thomas in particular to remind me to send the message to all, instead only to him :-) Some possible additions to Thomas procedure: > a) some people develop some archetypes , e.g. American College of > Opthalmologists (not sure what the proper title is) > Yes, any professional organ

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2003-10-02 Thread Thomas Beale
Christopher Feahr wrote: > My understanding is that the US open-licence period for SNOMED CT > begins Jan 1, 04. I have also been told that Centers for Medicare and > Medicaid Services are planning a number of "demonstration projects" > early in 2004, involving EHR systems and SNOMED CT terms.

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2003-09-27 Thread Tim Churches
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 23:01, Thomas Beale wrote: > Right now I really think people need to understand that there is still a > lot of intellectual work ot go in this area, and that finalising > licencing situations will not particularly change things. And theoretical health informaticists need t

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2003-09-26 Thread Thomas Beale
William E Hammond wrote: >William, > >I do not think you are over reacting. I agree with you. My only point is >that we should be driven by what is best and what is a true solution, and >not by the wrong reasons. I would be most interested in seeing us compile >a list of candidates for terminol

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2003-09-26 Thread Thomas Beale
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: > In een bericht met de datum 25-9-2003 15:10:09 West-Europa > (zomertijd), schrijft hammo001 at mc.duke.edu: > > I agree with Ed in that if we can make this resource available, we > need to work on that. > I think it is OK that HL7 uses SNOMED as preferred term

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2003-09-26 Thread Thomas Beale
William E Hammond wrote: >However, I do think it is important to make sure that SNOMED is the answer >and will be acceptable before we move aggressively. > Ed - how will this happen - what process can be followed to do this? Do you mean "clincally" acceptable, or acceptable in terms of licencing,

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2003-09-26 Thread Beatriz de Faria Leao
e" Cc: "Gerard Freriks" ; "Mark Shafarman" ; "Gunnar Klein" ; "Nan Besseler" ; "Magnus Fogelberg" ; "P Zanstra" ; ; "Shah, Hemant" ; "Eline Loomans" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Open Source

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2003-09-26 Thread Christopher Feahr
My understanding is that the US open-licence period for SNOMED CT begins Jan 1, 04. I have also been told that Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are planning a number of "demonstration projects" early in 2004, involving EHR systems and SNOMED CT terms. Therefore, I would agree with Ed

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2003-09-26 Thread Tim Churches
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2003-09-26 Thread William E Hammond
I basically agree. I think I mean both clinical and economical. What I am hoping for is that we can create a single process in which all the appropriate terminologies can be blended, overlaps and mapping, and distribution made common. Do it once not each institution or even each country. I

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2003-09-26 Thread Tim Churches
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 04:04, lakewood at copper.net wrote: > 3)Rigorous testing, including scalability, of SNOMED seems to be sparse: > > PERFORMANCE; Google search: "SNOMED performance |" > http://etbsun2.nlm.nih.gov:8000/publis-ob-offi/pdf/2000-tal-ob-Ft.pdf > (1 hit) > > SCALABILITY: Google se

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2003-09-25 Thread Gerard Freriks
mans > > Subject: Re: Open Source EHR at the Americal Academy of Family Physicians ... > > > I agree with Gerard that we need to be careful. However, that does not > mean that we go to the lowest denominator. IF we think SNOMED is the best > solution, then we need to sp

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2003-09-25 Thread lakew...@copper.net
Hi Tim, Pieces of the 33 hits are included below: -Sarcomatoid carcinoma of the cervix -An evaluation of the usefulness of two terminology models for integrating nursing diagnosis concepts into SNOMED Clinical Terms -Improved coding of the primary reason for visit to the emergency department us

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2003-09-25 Thread lakew...@copper.net
Hi William, A small addition: 1)It seems unlikely that Practitioners, Patients and associated parties would be UNABLE to effectively communicate without speaking SNOMED. 2)It seems likely that a single, dominating system for handling day-to-day Healthcare-related activities it become efficient

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2003-09-25 Thread lakew...@copper.net
iden > The Netherlands > > +31 71 5181388 > +31 654 792800 > > > *From: *"Shah, Hemant" > *Reply-To: *"Shah, Hemant" > *Date: *Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:53:45 -0700 > *To: *openehr-technical at openehr.org > *Subject: *RE: Open Sour

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2003-09-25 Thread William E Hammond
William, I do not think you are over reacting. I agree with you. My only point is that we should be driven by what is best and what is a true solution, and not by the wrong reasons. I would be most interested in seeing us compile a list of candidates for terminologies that should be conside

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2003-09-25 Thread Tom Culpepper
Hi all, Just wanted to let folks know that at the "Computational Level" the work of the OMG Healthcare Domain Task Force's Lexicon Query Service (LQS) address the issue of multiple terminologies and their use in IT setting

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2003-09-25 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 25-9-2003 15:10:09 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft hammo001 at mc.duke.edu: > > I agree with Gerard that we need to be careful. However, that does not > mean that we go to the lowest denominator. IF we think SNOMED is the best > solution, then we need to spend ou

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2003-09-25 Thread William E Hammond
I agree with Gerard that we need to be careful. However, that does not mean that we go to the lowest denominator. IF we think SNOMED is the best solution, then we need to spend our time and energy on finding how to make SNOMED available to the rest of the world. We have a debate in our schoo

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2003-09-25 Thread Gerard Freriks
nikedreef 9 Leiden The Netherlands +31 71 5181388 +31 654 792800 > From: "Shah, Hemant" > Reply-To: "Shah, Hemant" > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:53:45 -0700 > To: openehr-technical at openehr.org > Subject: RE: Open Source EHR at the Americal Academy of Family Ph

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2003-08-27 Thread William E Hammond
David Forslund @openehr.org on 08/20/2003 09:37:41 AM Please respond to David Forslund Sent by:owner-openehr-technical at openehr.org To:HOPTIMIS at aol.com, bish at hathway.com, openehr-technical at openehr.org cc: Subject: Re: Open Source EHR at the Americal Academy of F

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2003-08-27 Thread William E Hammond
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2003-08-27 Thread David Forslund
nehr.org on 08/20/2003 09:37:41 AM > >Please respond to David Forslund > >Sent by:owner-openehr-technical at openehr.org > > >To:HOPTIMIS at aol.com, bish at hathway.com, openehr-technical at >openehr.org >cc: > >Subject:Re: Open Source EHR at the

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2003-08-27 Thread Shah, Hemant
: William E Hammond Cc: HOPTIMIS at aol.com; bish at hathway.com; openehr-technical at openehr.org Subject:Re: Open Source EHR at the Americal Academy of Family Physicians ... Thank you Ed for clearing stating the HL7 position, which has always been clear, in my opinion. It is

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2003-08-21 Thread USM Bish
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:45:36AM -0600, David Forslund wrote: > > Actually, I think the situation is the reverse. It is > usually fairly easy to get the preliminary versions of a > standard from HL7 for free (from their web site), but you > have to pay for the final approved version

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2003-08-21 Thread USM Bish
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:22:18AM -0400, HOPTIMIS at aol.com wrote: > > To give to HL7 the name of an "exclusive club" is very > strange; could you give some explanations? > ---end quoted text--- If you see the mail that I attached, all that I asked is a place where I could obtain the H

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2003-08-20 Thread David Forslund
I agree with you. I don't like the HL7 policy. The side effect that is bad is that "selling" the specification becomes a conflict of interest issue, because it generates revenue. Dave At 06:30 AM 8/21/2003 +0530, USM Bish wrote: >On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:45:36AM -0600, David Forslund wrote: >

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2003-08-20 Thread David Forslund
Actually, I think the situation is the reverse.It is usually fairly easy to get the preliminary versions of a standard from HL7 for free (from their web site), but you have to pay for the final approved versions. The OMG policy is a little different. It is easy to get both preliminary and

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2003-08-20 Thread hopti...@aol.com
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2003-08-20 Thread David Forslund
At 09:22 AM 8/20/2003 -0400, HOPTIMIS at aol.com wrote: >To give to HL7 the name of an "exclusive club" is very strange; could you >give some explanations? I don't know that it merits the name of an "exclusive club", but the "open" standards that the HL7 produces are only available to paying mem

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2003-08-20 Thread USM Bish
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:29:37PM -0700, Christopher Feahr wrote: > > Personally, I would like to see all EHR-related standards > work... at least in the US... coordinated under the umbrella > of HL7. At the moment, the CCR project does not appear to be > headed toward HL7. I really don't kno

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2003-08-19 Thread David Forslund
d. > >Best regards, >-Chris > >Christopher J. Feahr, O.D. >Optiserv Consulting (Vision Industry) >Office: (707) 579-4984 >Cell: (707) 529-2268 >http://Optiserv.com >http://VisionDataStandard.org >- Original Message - >From: "USM Bish" >To:

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2003-08-19 Thread Christopher Feahr
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2003-08-18 Thread Christopher Feahr
-2268 http://Optiserv.com http://VisionDataStandard.org - Original Message - From: "angelo rossi mori" To: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:31 AM Subject: Open Source EHR at the Americal Academy of Family Physicians ... > Dear friends, > perhaps someone of you knows

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2003-08-18 Thread angelo rossi mori
Dear friends, perhaps someone of you knows more about this initiative ? --- Open-Source Electronic Health Record for Office-Based Practice The American Academy of Family Physicians is taking a leadership r