Pathology requirements TIMED MEASUREMENTS

2003-10-27 Thread Sam Heard
Thomas I am not sure that we need to do such a major rework. These samples are time ordered but have no sensible time. So they could appear in the history list without an offset, labelled in what ever way was helpful, recognising they are part of the same measurement. On thinking about this (if

Pathology requirements TEXTURAL RESULTS TO QUANTITIES

2003-10-27 Thread Sam Heard
Thomas My approach to this, which is expressed in the editor, is to standardise only on the base and maximum values of the ordinal. The terms that are used are not an issue and standardisation is really way beyond scope when people use all sorts of terms for this purpose. Apgar is a classic -

Pathology requirements UNITS

2003-10-27 Thread Sam Heard
Thomas It is more that units match Force/Length^2 for pressure and it is an expression that the property of pressure is the property of Force per property of area - this does allow a very wide range of units to be used if that is the requirement. I am starting to see that things do get

Pathology requirements TIMED MEASUREMENTS

2003-10-27 Thread Thomas Beale
Sam wrote: Thomas I am not sure that we need to do such a major rework. These samples are time ordered but have no sensible time. So they could appear in the history list without an offset, labelled in what ever way was helpful, recognising they are part of the same measurement. On

Pathology requirements TIMED MEASUREMENTS

2003-10-27 Thread Sam Heard
Bhupinder The only values we are not wanting to show are those that are wrong - and have been changed in a later version. The idea behind this is to store the information in an openEHR system inside the Pathology service and then send an extract - rather than develop a lot of messages. Cheers,

Pathology requirements CONTRIBUTION - 2 versions at once

2003-10-27 Thread Thomas Beale
Vincent McCauley vincem at mccauleysoftware.com, Hi Thomas, The issue here is that Pathology labs will produce a numeric result for say Potassium but when it is high willl look at the specimen, decide it is haemolysed and actually report Haemolysed as the result. The Lab will store two

Pathology requirements TIMED MEASUREMENTS

2003-10-27 Thread Gerard Freriks
HI, On one hand there is the notion as used in HL7 where series of messages update databases producing a list of updated measurements. On the other hand there is the notion as used in CEN/TC251 and OpenEHR where documents are used to enhance the raw data by providing a human interpretation and

Pathology requirements CONTRIBUTION - 2 versions at once

2003-10-27 Thread Gerard Freriks
Hi, Only an attribute will not be enough. It has to be accompanied by rules. Information will be stored in various contexts and not always in the same system. The same information will be stored in separate contexts. A change in the status of the 'Lifecycle marker' in one machine will not result

Pathology requirements TIMED MEASUREMENTS

2003-10-27 Thread Thomas Beale
Bhupinder Singh bobdog at sancharnet.in Hi Sam, What yo usuggest is OK . But the issue is who is to decide what is right and what is wrong. Should it not be the prerogative of the clinician. There are situations where medical decisions are based upon results which trigger clinical

Pathology requirements CONTRIBUTION - 2 versions at once

2003-10-27 Thread Vincent McCauley
I think there is a need for both superceded and exclude from automatic processing. Wherever the haemolysed marker ends up in the archetype/EHR it won't be the only such beast. Some other examples are clotted and clumped for full blood counts, incorrectly collected (specimen in wrong type of tube

Pathology requirements CONTRIBUTION - 2 versions at once

2003-10-27 Thread Sam Heard
Vince The notion of superceded applies to compositions and is inherent in the versioning approach. Exclude from automatic processing is for entries. Sam -Original Message- From: owner-openehr-technical at openehr.org [mailto:owner-openehr-technical at openehr.org]On Behalf Of Vincent