On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.com wrote:
And this continues to miss the point.
...
but honestly, it's beyond frustrating to find out that
there is no obvious way to do the /etc/rc.local thing I kvetched about
earlier
Which point are you missing? You
doesn't pull let them manage their own time better?
Yes. This is why my vote is for forum, not mailing list.
Dmitry.
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On 10/11/2011 6:10 AM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
doesn't pull let them manage their own time better?
Yes. This is why my vote is for forum, not mailing list.
Dmitry.
I've stayed out of this thread thus far, and probably will going
forward, but I vastly prefer mail lists and I think the
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:16 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.com
wrote:
And this continues to miss the point.
...
but honestly, it's beyond frustrating to find out that
there is no obvious way to do the /etc/rc.local thing I
+1
On 11 October 2011 15:32, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote:
Hello Peter:
I think your accusations of bikeshedding are unfounded and unkind. Many
stayed out of this discussion until noting that a few oi-dev regulars
like Alasdair, jeffpc, drlou, herzen, etc. expressed some
Sorry i so late to this party..
So i was hired by nexenta as community manager. i have illumos as one of
my communities. We have redmine running already and forums are
available. I have only been at this for a short time, but it appears
that most of the distro's come from illumos, and that
On 11.10.2011, at 21:05, Linda Kateley wrote:
We have redmine running already and forums are available.
The problem with these forums from nexenta is, that there are a lot (!) of spam
posts and nobody from nexenta cares about it...
Ps.: This rant is not about radiant at all - we are using it
I will personally apologize for the spam on the nexenta forums.. The
other guy quit months ago and it took me awhile to catch on... If you
see anymore spam please let me know, right now i feel like i have it
under control...Our company is growing at 400% and the forums got
overlooked...
lk
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:51:13 -0400, Richard wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
[snip]
I must be old-fashioned, but I find an NNTP server
easier than forums (and less junk accumulating on
my mail
It might be an idea to look at www.opennms.org. They also struggle with
documentation, users, updates and helpfiles but manage to get it good pretty
well.
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On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:56 +0200, Open Indiana wrote:
It might be an idea to look at www.opennms.org. They also struggle with
documentation, users, updates and helpfiles but manage to get it good pretty
well.
Whoa! It's been a while since I've been to OpenNMS's site. Nice
redesign. Much
On Oct 9, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Любомир Григоров wrote:
That attitude is why OpenBSD will continue to exist on the periphery of
the technology space, in spite of all the great tools they are sitting on.
Precisely. And it looks like OI people want to go the same path.
If an appetite for
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a hundred _looking_ for a
clue any day.
It will be just as I said earlier - the userland will consist of the devs
and a bunch of fanboys, no one will know the OS and will just view it as
another one. This whole conversation and all the emails in it
On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Kees Nuyt wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:51:13 -0400, Richard wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
[snip]
I must be old-fashioned, but I find an NNTP server
easier
On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Любомир Григоров wrote:
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a hundred _looking_ for a
clue any day.
It will be just as I said earlier - the userland will consist of the devs
and a bunch of fanboys, no one will know the OS and will just view it as
Hello Любомир Григоров and List,
On Oktober, 10 2011, 18:59 Любомир Григоров wrote in [1]:
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a hundred _looking_ for a
clue any day.
It will be just as I said earlier - the userland will consist of the devs
and a bunch of fanboys, no one will know
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:21 +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
Hello Любомир Григоров and List,
On Oktober, 10 2011, 18:59 Любомир Григоров wrote in [1]:
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a hundred _looking_ for a
clue any day.
It will be just as I said earlier - the userland
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:21 +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
Hello Любомир Григоров and List,
On Oktober, 10 2011, 18:59 Любомир Григоров wrote in [1]:
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a hundred _looking_ for a
clue any day.
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:12 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Kees Nuyt wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:51:13 -0400, Richard wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011
Hello Ken Gunderson and List,
On Oktober, 10 2011, 22:25 Ken Gunderson wrote in [1]:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:21 +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
Hello Любомир Григоров and List,
On Oktober, 10 2011, 18:59 Любомир Григоров wrote in [1]:
I'll take a couple of people with a clue over a
A couple of thoughts: OSX is a dreadful wrong example. If you polled 1
million Mac users and asked them 'what OS runs under the hood?', my guess is
95% would have no idea what you are talking about. Secondly, throwing vague
statements out about the 'shortcomings of linux' is at best
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 17:32 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
A couple of thoughts: OSX is a dreadful wrong example. If you polled 1
million Mac users and asked them 'what OS runs under the hood?', my guess is
95% would have no idea what you are talking about. Secondly, throwing vague
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
A couple of thoughts: OSX is a dreadful wrong example. If you polled 1
million Mac users and asked them 'what OS runs under the hood?', my guess is
95% would have no idea what you are talking about. Secondly, throwing vague
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 17:49 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
A couple of thoughts: OSX is a dreadful wrong example. If you polled 1
million Mac users and asked them 'what OS runs under the hood?', my guess is
95% would have no
-Original Message-
From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:kgund...@teamcool.net]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:44 PM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help with website
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 17:32 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
A couple of thoughts
And this continues to miss the point. This is what is so frustrating to me
(going back years...) Techies like you guys make a decision based on the
technical merits, but 95% of the manager/sysadmin types are going to look at
the learning curve (and don't bother telling me it doesn't exist or is
Oh almost forgot. No, it doesn't matter what runs under the hood when you
are dealing with a mass market GUI that isn't the point. The point is that
someone mentioned that OSX uses *BSD under the hood like somehow that has
ANYTHING to do with getting more people away from linux...
Sorry, but i don't really see the point.
Of course OS is different to Linux or BSD, but there are also
differences between them.
If you change from Windows or even Mac OS to a posix-like system the
difference might be the largest, but there are a lot of people who use
Linux on their notebooks
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Tobias Famulla wrote:
If you change from Windows or even Mac OS to a posix-like system ….
Windows and Mac OS both have POSIX, though one could argue as to how useful
Windows’s is. OS X is actually UNIX certified.
Phil
On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Robar Philip wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Tobias Famulla wrote:
If you change from Windows or even Mac OS to a posix-like system ….
Windows and Mac OS both have POSIX, though one could argue as to how useful
Windows’s is. OS X is actually UNIX
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Oh almost forgot. No, it doesn't matter what runs under the hood when you
are dealing with a mass market GUI that isn't the point. The point is that
someone mentioned that OSX uses *BSD under the hood like somehow that has
ANYTHING
I think I've gotten frustrated enough at trying to make the same point N
times that I'm done here. One last time: the point was that someone brought
up OSX as an example of a widely deployed platform using a non-linux (as I
recall the point) OS. My rebuttal was that 95% or whatever of the users
-Original Message-
From: Richard L. Hamilton [mailto:rlha...@smart.net]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:49 PM
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help with website
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Oh almost forgot
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 18:53 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
And this continues to miss the point. This is what is so frustrating to me
(going back years...) Techies like you guys make a decision based on the
technical merits, but 95% of the manager/sysadmin types are going to look at
the
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 05:44 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
My comment was not directed at anyone in particular, but more broadly
scoped to include various posts that seem to keep holding up Linux like
it's the holy grail. I don't need another Linux option. I do have an
interest/need in
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
And this continues to miss the point. This is what is so frustrating to me
(going back years...) Techies like you guys make a decision based on the
technical merits, but 95% of the manager/sysadmin types are going to look at
the
Richard, you continue to miss the point. This isn't about you (OS) vs me
(linux). I would wager that for every opensolaris user there are at least
10 linux users. Getting them to use OS (which is better in many ways,
granted), making the environment more familiar is essential, IMO. You are
of
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 20:26 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
And this continues to miss the point. This is what is so frustrating to me
(going back years...) Techies like you guys make a decision based on the
technical merits,
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 07:51 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
I think I've gotten frustrated enough at trying to make the same point N
times that I'm done here. One last time: the point was that someone brought
up OSX as an example of a widely deployed platform using a non-linux (as I
Ok, I suppose most Linux users don't know that they're using Linux? Maybe
that's true for Android, not for anything else.
So I don't see the point of your point. Yes, gramma and her email-and-surf
probably doesn't give a hoot _what_ she's using, as long as it's cheap (so she
doesn't have to
Quite true. At this point, though, the admin space is the issue.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chan [mailto:christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 8:32 PM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help with website
Well, I give up. You are not stupid, so I can only assume we have a
disconnect here. Ciao...
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On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Richard L. Hamilton [mailto:rlha...@smart.net]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:49 PM
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help with website
On Oct 10, 2011
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:29 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Richard, you continue to miss the point. This isn't about you (OS) vs me
(linux). I would wager that for every opensolaris user there are at least
10 linux users. Getting them to use OS (which is better in many ways,
granted),
On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 18:53 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
And this continues to miss the point. This is what is so frustrating to me
(going back years...) Techies like you guys make a decision based on the
technical merits, but 95% of
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:32 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Quite true. At this point, though, the admin space is the issue.
I come from a Linux background with my experience being done on Redhat
Linux, Fedora, Centos and Ubuntu. I have also worked on FreeBSD and
OpenBSD. I do not see
[mailto:christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 8:42 PM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help with website
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:32 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Quite true. At this point, though, the admin space is the issue
Hi All,
Please, for the sake of everybody's sanity, can people chill out and
stop arguing.
This thread started as someone wanting to volunteer to help the project,
and it has descended into a flame fest. I'd kindly ask that people
respect the rules of the mailing list and stop flaming each
On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Richard, you continue to miss the point. This isn't about you (OS) vs me
(linux). I would wager that for every opensolaris user there are at least
10 linux users. Getting them to use OS (which is better in many ways,
granted),
On 10/11/11 01:59 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Alasdair, thank you. I apologize for my intemperate language. The
frustration at people's apparent inability to get the point I was trying to
make doesn't justify it.
The message was to everyone who contributed to the thread going way way
off
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:32 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Quite true. At this point, though, the admin space is the issue.
I come from a Linux background with my experience being done on Redhat Linux,
Fedora, Centos and
Gregory, I can second that. I have a friend who is very experienced in
Linux and BSD and I was mentioning at dinner how I was using a SAN appliance
that was based on ZFS, and started extolling its virtues. He asked me
(totally seriously) ZFS is still around? I thought all that stuff died
when
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Gregory Youngblood wrote:
On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 08:32 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
Quite true. At this point, though, the admin space is the issue.
I come from a Linux background with my
Hi All,
Please, for the sake of everybody's sanity, can people chill out and
stop arguing.
This thread started as someone wanting to volunteer to help the project,
and it has descended into a flame fest. I'd kindly ask that people
respect the rules of the mailing list and stop flaming each
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:32 PM, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
Please, for the sake of everybody's sanity, can people chill out and
stop arguing.
This thread started as someone wanting to volunteer to help the project,
and it has descended into a flame fest. I'd kindly ask that people
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana. If the
community does not want it, if the decision makers are against it, I can
just take it down. It took less than 10 minutes to put it up, and will
On 10/10/11 07:16 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana. If the
community does not want it, if the decision makers are against it, I can
just take it down. It took less
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/10/11 07:16 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana. If the
community does not want it, if the
On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/10/11 07:16 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana.
On 10/10/11 07:38 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/10/11 07:16 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana. If the
On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:27 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/10/11 07:16 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 19:32 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi All,
[snip]
The demo is still up at http://linuxbsdos.com/askopenindiana.
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:05 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
If you think it preferable to compare various options first, there's a
site http://www.forummatrix.org/ that seems to compare a bunch of
forum software (including Vanilla).
That's interesting. If you use the following criteria:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:51 -0400, Alex Viskovatoff wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:05 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
If you think it preferable to compare various options first, there's a
site http://www.forummatrix.org/ that seems to compare a bunch of
forum software (including
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:05 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
If you think it preferable to compare various options first, there's a
site http://www.forummatrix.org/ that seems to compare a bunch of
forum software (including Vanilla).
That's interesting. If you use the following criteria:
If you are worried about resources, step 1 would be to get rid of direct
downloads. Or you get the following: casual user downloads, casual user
runs, casual user finds problem, casual user doesn't have forums to get
help, casual user leave. 1 download worth of bandwidth wasted. And that's
the
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role in Linux
distributions, as they allow users to have conversations. It would be
great if an initiative to create
What about the passionate fights? If we move to a forum we are going
to miss them. :P
This list became part of life alrready.
I kind of like this.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 05:20:21PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
So if you are still open to helping, that makes two persons who are
ready
to help with a forum-type setting.
Hey guys, can you hop onto IRC (#oi-dev on Freenode)? We can discuss the
details there. Everyone agrees that OI's
Hello List,
my opinion is that when we want to get openindiana popular that we
need first a good documentation. Not only a good documentation for
geeks but rather also for endusers.
Look at Ubuntu for the last 3 years. In the meantime they had a good
documentation and a active community where
Hello List,
my opinion is that when we want to get openindiana popular that we
need first a good documentation. Not only a good documentation for
geeks but rather also for endusers.
Look at Ubuntu for the last 3 years. In the meantime they had a good
documentation and a active community
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 04:20:50PM +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
Hello List,
my opinion is that when we want to get openindiana popular that we
need first a good documentation. Not only a good documentation for
geeks but rather also for endusers.
I see no reason why the two projects can't
Hello LinuxBSDos.com and List,
I cant say something about the vanilla forum I have no experience
about it. I have never seen it before.
My opinion about forums is that you need much more experts for
answering questions in good quality.
In good forums you need people who have the knowledge in OI
Hello Josef 'Jeff' Sipek and List,
On Oktober, 09 2011, 16:39 Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote in [1]:
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 04:20:50PM +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
my opinion is that when we want to get openindiana popular that we
need first a good documentation. Not only a good documentation
Not all responses to questions in a forum will be of good quality. As in
life, there will be good and not-so-good ones. It's the nature of things.
Along the same lines, there will be bad questions, usually from noobs.
That's were the community steps in, to help the noob move to the next
step.
I
Hello LinuxBSDos.com and List,
On Oktober, 09 2011, 17:59 LinuxBSDos.com wrote in [1]:
Not all responses to questions in a forum will be of good quality. As in
life, there will be good and not-so-good ones. It's the nature of things.
Along the same lines, there will be bad questions, usually
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 06:17:24PM +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
Hello LinuxBSDos.com and List,
On Oktober, 09 2011, 17:59 LinuxBSDos.com wrote in [1]:
Not all responses to questions in a forum will be of good quality. As in
life, there will be good and not-so-good ones. It's the
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:35 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role in Linux
distributions, as they allow users to have conversations. It would be
great if an initiative to create one for OI could be started.
I agree that forums are more
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 02:51 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role in Linux
distributions, as they allow users to
On 10/ 9/11 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
I haven't looked in recent years, but the last time I did look, port 25,
not port 80, was responsible for the lions share of Internet traffic.
I don't think that's been true for many years. Last I heard, YouTube
Netflix dominated the bandwidth.
I
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:35 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role in Linux
distributions, as they allow users to have conversations. It would be
great if an initiative to create one for OI
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 02:51 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 12:32 -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 02:51 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com
On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 12:32 -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 02:51 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat,
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:35 -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
As Bernd Helber remarked, forums can play a significant role in Linux
distributions, as they allow users to have conversations. It would
be
great if an initiative to create one for OI could be started.
I agree that forums are
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 12:32 -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote:
On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 02:51 -0400, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:35:57PM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com
That attitude is why OpenBSD will continue to exist on the periphery of
the technology space, in spite of all the great tools they are sitting on.
Precisely. And it looks like OI people want to go the same path.
--
Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam)
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/ 9/11 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
I haven't looked in recent years, but the last time I did look, port 25,
not port 80, was responsible for the lions share of Internet traffic.
I don't think that's been true for many
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Gregory Youngblood
greg...@youngblood.me wrote:
.
And, if we do start a web forum, until we have a critical mass of active
experts able to answer questions, I believe we should have the forum gated
to the mailing lists. Otherwise we'll end up with two classes
+1
I think a good documentation is most important. Normally I only use
forums or mailing lists, if there is no answer in the doc or maybe in
the wiki.
I did a little research on documentation formats and posted the
corrected files a week ago.
I attached the files, so you don't have to search
Sorry,
I forgot to attach the files.
Am 10.10.2011 00:19, schrieb Tobias Famulla:
+1
I think a good documentation is most important. Normally I only use
forums or mailing lists, if there is no answer in the doc or maybe in
the wiki.
I did a little research on documentation formats and
Hello,
Am 09.10.2011 17:58, schrieb Alexander Lesle:
Hello Josef 'Jeff' Sipek and List,
On Oktober, 09 2011, 16:39 Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote in [1]:
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 04:20:50PM +0200, Alexander Lesle wrote:
my opinion is that when we want to get openindiana popular that we
need first
On Monday, October 10, 2011 04:56 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/ 9/11 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
I haven't looked in recent years, but the last time I did look, port 25,
not port 80, was responsible for the lions share of Internet
On Monday, October 10, 2011 03:54 AM, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
I fail to see why you consider my statements erroneous assumptions.
Whether we like it or not, forums rule. The most prolific communities on
the Internet are forums, or forum-like. answers.yahoo.com. facebook,
Google Groups, are all
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:16 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Monday, October 10, 2011 04:56 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/ 9/11 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
I haven't looked in recent years, but the last time I did look, port
On Monday, October 10, 2011 09:45 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:16 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Monday, October 10, 2011 04:56 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 10/ 9/11 11:37 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
I haven't
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:52 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Monday, October 10, 2011 09:45 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:16 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Monday, October 10, 2011 04:56 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 11:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:56:42AM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com wrote:
Hi,
There seems to be plenty of resources for devs, but very little for
end-users, especially those new to the Solaris way of doing stuff.
There is a general discussion list, but I think it would be better if all
that
I forgot to add... I generally search the web for opensolaris or solaris
11 along with what I want to do. Sometimes, pre-osol ways of doing things
still apply.
Jeff.
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 02:32:59PM -0400, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:56:42AM -0600, LinuxBSDos.com
Hi List,
firstly people tend to socialise thats a point why people like to
use Blogs, Forums you name it.
Wikis in general are great for Documentation. But it has not the same
appeal to End Users.
Have a look at Ubuntu Forums, and you know why.
People like to have a Conversation, also
Well said. Imagine all the help requests and accompanying answers that has
taken place on this list, for example. How accessible are they? A forum,
on the other hand, makes them more accessible, and in a nicely formatted
manner than a mailing list.
The community already exists. It just needs
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