Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Danno Ferrin
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: > Are we talking Oracle or OpenJDK here. I got the impression those libs > were Open? > > I think it's much better that this is built into the OpenJFX/JDK automated > build scripts and you guys execute them. Most of us in the community do n

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Richard Bair
There's a whole infrastructure project going on for OpenJDK, and we need to coordinate with those guys. Nothings ever easy! On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: > Ok, that's how I read it, and so as per my email Sonatype still makes sense > to me as the "spot" to put these lib

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Eugelink
That was a response to the fact that Oracle prefers to self-host. Tom On 2013-06-21 09:10, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: While I agree with Tom that setting up a Nexus (or Artifactory) repo is easy, I don't see any point for OSS stuff. That's what Sonatype is for, take advantage of it. Setting up

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Eugelink
Indeed, either will work. Important is, as Daniel says, to get the release to any public repo in the build process. On 2013-06-21 09:07, Richard Bair wrote: Artifactory does the same (compatible with Maven, Gradle, Ivy, etc). On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Tom Eugelink wrote: What I wanted

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
Ok, that's how I read it, and so as per my email Sonatype still makes sense to me as the "spot" to put these libs (see the link I linked to). And, as I said, once you start using it for your third party repos it's a small step to then start deploying the actual built artifacts into it, which is so

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
While I agree with Tom that setting up a Nexus (or Artifactory) repo is easy, I don't see any point for OSS stuff. That's what Sonatype is for, take advantage of it. Setting up your own Nexus (or Artifactory) is needed if you have proprietary stuff that you want to keep private or have licensing r

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Richard Bair
> Are we talking Oracle or OpenJDK here. I got the impression those libs were > Open? Right, it is confusing. Much of the code we (meaning the build system) are building all the time (for example, all of webkit or gstreamer). However some of it (libxslt, libxml, some others) we have only built

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Eugelink
Installing Nexus is extremely simple (kudo's to sonatype for that). I've got a copy running myself, proxying all kinds of other repo's, just to be not dependent on other hosting. Tom On 2013-06-21 08:51, Richard Bair wrote: Oracle has this thing about wanting to self host everything. Howeve

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
Are we talking Oracle or OpenJDK here. I got the impression those libs were Open? I think it's much better that this is built into the OpenJFX/JDK automated build scripts and you guys execute them. Most of us in the community do not have the infrastructure to do cross platform builds of all this a

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Richard Bair
Artifactory does the same (compatible with Maven, Gradle, Ivy, etc). On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Tom Eugelink wrote: > > What I wanted to say with that (friends always accuse me of not being to the > point) is that by running a Nexus repo yourself, > - Oracle is self hosting > - But also imm

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread Tom Eugelink
What I wanted to say with that (friends always accuse me of not being to the point) is that by running a Nexus repo yourself, - Oracle is self hosting - But also immediately compatible with Maven, Gradle, Ivy, etc - Allow other repo's to easily proxy, which improves availability I'm more than h

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Bair
Oracle has this thing about wanting to self host everything. However that doesn't stop the community from putting OpenJDK / OpenJFX stuff somewhere reasonable until Oracle finally gets all the infrastructure in place and the OpenJDK project can then take advantage of it. Richard On Jun 20, 201

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Bair
s actually referring to? Does JavaFX 2 and 8 prior to the >>>>> b94 (or whichever build has this native font rendering) not do native >>>>> font rendering? >>>>> >>>>> Can someone explain exactly what "native font rendering" ac

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
Why not use Sonatype for your repo? For third party jars that aren't in central, you can upload these assuming the licence allows it: https://docs.sonatype.org/display/Repository/Uploading+3rd-party+Artifacts+to+The+Central+Repository For your own stuff that you aren't going to publish for real b

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Tom Eugelink
It indeed makes a lot of sense (to me at least) to use Maven repo's to store artifacts. That is what they are for. Why reinvent the wheel. On 2013-06-21 08:34, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: Why not use Sonatype for your repo? For third party jars that aren't in central, you can upload these assumi

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread John C. Turnbull
>>>> means and whether it is something new? >>>> >>>> Also, why is not available on Linux? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -jct >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Dani

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Bair
ing" actually >>> means and whether it is something new? >>> >>> Also, why is not available on Linux? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -jct >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Daniel Zwolenski&qu

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread John C. Turnbull
>> >> Thanks, >> >> -jct >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Daniel Zwolenski" >> To:"Felipe Heidrich" >> Cc:"[email protected] Mailing" >> Sent:Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:21:22 +1000 &g

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Bair
Yes, working on the web view building. The main issue is there are a handful of libs (libxml, libxslt, etc) that we have to figure out where to put. I believe these are unaltered by us, but built with different flags to strip out stuff we don't need. I've asked Peter whether we can post the buil

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Bair
is not available on Linux? > > Thanks, > > -jct > > - Original Message - > From: "Daniel Zwolenski" > To:"Felipe Heidrich" > Cc:"[email protected] Mailing" > Sent:Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:21:22 +1000 > Subject:Re: javafx

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread ozemale
ering" actually means and whether it is something new? Also, why is not available on Linux? Thanks, -jct - Original Message - From: "Daniel Zwolenski" To:"Felipe Heidrich" Cc:"[email protected] Mailing" Sent:Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:21:22 +10

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Danno Ferrin
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: > This time sending to the list (gets me every time!): > > Great news! > > Danno - where does this put us with the JFX78 backport? Can we get a build > of this for iOS now or what's needed to close this loop? > > The good news is that my JF

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
This time sending to the list (gets me every time!): Great news! Danno - where does this put us with the JFX78 backport? Can we get a build of this for iOS now or what's needed to close this loop? The RoboVM Maven plugin is working. I'd be keen to make it work with JFX auto included so basically

javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread Felipe Heidrich
Hello, We have just open-sourced javafx-font and javafx-font-native! Note that a lot of the code we open-sourced today is a new implementation based on native text technologies (CoreText for the Mac and DirectWrite for Windows). We still have a lot of work to do: - finishing the new linux impl