Backwards compatibility broken: Why was Color made final

2014-03-19 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen
After upgrading to FX8, the framework I have been developing since the early 
access release of JavaFX three years ago is now broken. 

My framework has some really cool features for working with color, which relies 
on our own class PaletteColor which extends javafx.scene.paint.Color.

Why would you, after three years, make the Color class final, thereby breaking 
backwards compatibility?

I would really like to know the thoughts behind that decision.

Yours

Randahl



Re: Backwards compatibility broken: Why was Color made final

2014-03-19 Thread Martin Sladecek

Here's the related JIRA issue: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-31746

-Martin

On 03/19/2014 09:46 AM, Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:

After upgrading to FX8, the framework I have been developing since the early 
access release of JavaFX three years ago is now broken.

My framework has some really cool features for working with color, which relies 
on our own class PaletteColor which extends javafx.scene.paint.Color.

Why would you, after three years, make the Color class final, thereby breaking 
backwards compatibility?

I would really like to know the thoughts behind that decision.

Yours

Randahl





[8u] review request : RT-35618 IMX6-SDP / Yocto hard float : hello.HelloButton : the highlighting blue rectangle is missing the bottom blue line in each of the top two buttons

2014-03-19 Thread Rafi Tayar
Lisa, Daniel,

 

Please review the patch attached to the Jira : 
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-35618

 

Thanks,

Rafi

 


Re: Backwards compatibility broken: Why was Color made final

2014-03-19 Thread Kevin Rushforth

Hi Randhal,

The reasons are captured in the description of RT-31746 
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-31746 which was the JIRA used 
to track this change in FX 8. The fact that Color wasn't final was an 
unfortunate oversight in FX 2.


-- Kevin


Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:
After upgrading to FX8, the framework I have been developing since the early access release of JavaFX three years ago is now broken. 


My framework has some really cool features for working with color, which relies 
on our own class PaletteColor which extends javafx.scene.paint.Color.

Why would you, after three years, make the Color class final, thereby breaking 
backwards compatibility?

I would really like to know the thoughts behind that decision.

Yours

Randahl

  


EasyBind: custom bindings made easy (with lambdas)

2014-03-19 Thread Tomas Mikula
Hi all,

I just released EasyBind (http://www.fxmisc.org/easybind/), a tiny
library with several factory methods to create bindings using lambdas.
The most prominent feature is probably the type-safe select binding
based on this feature request for JavaFX 9:
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-35923.

Regards,
Tomas


Re: EasyBind: custom bindings made easy (with lambdas)

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Bair
Ah, this is really nice!

BindingBoolean bb = EasyBind.select(control.sceneProperty()) 
.select(s - s.windowProperty()) 
.selectObject(w - w.showingProperty());

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Tomas Mikula tomas.mik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I just released EasyBind (http://www.fxmisc.org/easybind/), a tiny
 library with several factory methods to create bindings using lambdas.
 The most prominent feature is probably the type-safe select binding
 based on this feature request for JavaFX 9:
 https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-35923.
 
 Regards,
 Tomas



[8u6] review request: RT-34982 IMX6 - cursor image is seen even though a mouse is not plugged in

2014-03-19 Thread Lisa Selle

Rafi and Daniel,

Please review the fix for 
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34982.  Patch included in jira.


Thanks,

Lisa


hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: Fixed RT-36178: Printing: Scene is not printed when blending is used.

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: d1d4b24e037d
Author:prr
Date:  2014-03-19 11:06 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/d1d4b24e037d

Fixed RT-36178: Printing: Scene is not printed when blending is used.
Reviewed-by: flar

! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/prism/j2d/J2DPresentable.java
! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/prism/j2d/J2DRTTexture.java
! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/prism/j2d/J2DResourceFactory.java
! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/prism/j2d/PrismPrintGraphics.java



CircularPane

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Eugelink


For those interested, I've just put an implementation of a CircularPane in 
JFXtras-labs.

http://jfxtras.org/images/gallery/CircularPane.png

One never knows how to put such a thing to use.

Regards, Tom




Re: CircularPane

2014-03-19 Thread Gerrit Grunwald
Very nice Tom, thanx for the contribution!!!

Cheers,

Gerrit 


 Am 19.03.2014 um 19:21 schrieb Tom Eugelink t...@tbee.org:
 
 
 For those interested, I've just put an implementation of a CircularPane in 
 JFXtras-labs.
 
 http://jfxtras.org/images/gallery/CircularPane.png
 
 One never knows how to put such a thing to use.
 
 Regards, Tom
 
 


Re: Congratulations

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Bair
 So yes, a big THANK YOU to Richard and his team and everyone at Oracle and
 all the other individuals and 3rd parties who have contributed to getting
 JavaFX (and Java) to where it is today.
 
 You guys/gals should be really proud :-)

I agree, congrats to all the folks inside and outside Oracle that have been 
making tremendous contributions to JavaFX! A special thanks to Steve for really 
pushing OpenJFX as a real open source project with an open development process. 
We really want to work with the community on this project on an equal footing. 
We’ve had tons of valuable contributions in the form of bug fixes, blog posts, 
technical discussions, and patches. Keep up the great work! 8u20 has a big pile 
of bug fixes, so please do kick the tires on that one. Lots of great work going 
on in terms of Accessibility right now, also embedded work and as always 
performance work. Scene Builder is healthy and active, we’d love to see it 
embedded in all the IDEs and direct contributions from the community to Scene 
Builder would be fantastic. A big thanks to the porters brining JavaFX to 
Android/iOS and other platforms! Looking forward to 8u20 and Java 9!

Richard

Re: Congratulations

2014-03-19 Thread ngalarneau
Congratulations and Thank You to all of the JavaFX folks!

Richard, in one of your Java One talks you spoke about opening up the 
OpenJFX project further.

Will there be discussions on the list as to what is coming next?


Thanks,

Neil




From:   Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com
To: Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com
Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Mailing 
openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net
Date:   03/19/2014 02:46 PM
Subject:Re: Congratulations
Sent by:openjfx-dev openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net



 So yes, a big THANK YOU to Richard and his team and everyone at Oracle 
and
 all the other individuals and 3rd parties who have contributed to 
getting
 JavaFX (and Java) to where it is today.
 
 You guys/gals should be really proud :-)

I agree, congrats to all the folks inside and outside Oracle that have 
been making tremendous contributions to JavaFX! A special thanks to Steve 
for really pushing OpenJFX as a real open source project with an open 
development process. We really want to work with the community on this 
project on an equal footing. We’ve had tons of valuable contributions in 
the form of bug fixes, blog posts, technical discussions, and patches. 
Keep up the great work! 8u20 has a big pile of bug fixes, so please do 
kick the tires on that one. Lots of great work going on in terms of 
Accessibility right now, also embedded work and as always performance 
work. Scene Builder is healthy and active, we’d love to see it embedded in 
all the IDEs and direct contributions from the community to Scene Builder 
would be fantastic. A big thanks to the porters brining JavaFX to 
Android/iOS and other platforms! Looking forward to 8u20 and Java 9!

Richard


 
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Re: Congratulations

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Bair
Hi Neil,

Yes, I expect that feature planning for 9 and so forth should happen on this 
list and I hope will be in large part driven by those features / bugs / ideas 
that come from people in the community, and that they would include code 
contributions to help get it done :-)

Richard

On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:51 AM, ngalarn...@abinitio.com wrote:

 Congratulations and Thank You to all of the JavaFX folks! 
 
 Richard, in one of your Java One talks you spoke about opening up the OpenJFX 
 project further. 
 
 Will there be discussions on the list as to what is coming next? 
 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Neil 
 
 
 
 
 From:Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com 
 To:Felix Bembrick felix.bembr...@gmail.com 
 Cc:openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Mailing 
 openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net 
 Date:03/19/2014 02:46 PM 
 Subject:Re: Congratulations 
 Sent by:openjfx-dev openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net 
 
 
 
  So yes, a big THANK YOU to Richard and his team and everyone at Oracle and
  all the other individuals and 3rd parties who have contributed to getting
  JavaFX (and Java) to where it is today.
  
  You guys/gals should be really proud :-)
 
 I agree, congrats to all the folks inside and outside Oracle that have been 
 making tremendous contributions to JavaFX! A special thanks to Steve for 
 really pushing OpenJFX as a real open source project with an open development 
 process. We really want to work with the community on this project on an 
 equal footing. We’ve had tons of valuable contributions in the form of bug 
 fixes, blog posts, technical discussions, and patches. Keep up the great 
 work! 8u20 has a big pile of bug fixes, so please do kick the tires on that 
 one. Lots of great work going on in terms of Accessibility right now, also 
 embedded work and as always performance work. Scene Builder is healthy and 
 active, we’d love to see it embedded in all the IDEs and direct contributions 
 from the community to Scene Builder would be fantastic. A big thanks to the 
 porters brining JavaFX to Android/iOS and other platforms! Looking forward to 
 8u20 and Java 9!
 
 Richard 
 
 
 
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 information that is subject to confidentiality obligations or is legally 
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Create ContextMenu in Task

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Penzov
Hi,
   I'm working on a application which is using Task to load content. I have
a Context Menu insight the Task which is not working due to these problems:

https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-25127
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-17716

This is a limitation. Is there any plans to fix these issues?

BR,
Peter


hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: 2 new changesets

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: c9411d50a822
Author:hudson
Date:  2014-03-19 08:57 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/c9411d50a822

Added tag 8u20-b06 for changeset c7f043d40430

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Changeset: 7123e5a61cee
Author:kcr
Date:  2014-03-19 13:06 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/7123e5a61cee

Automated merge with ssh://jfxsrc.us.oracle.com//javafx/8u/master/jfx/rt

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hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: 3 new changesets

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 4dc1ba8b86ee
Author:David Grievedavid.gri...@oracle.com
Date:  2014-03-19 16:19 -0400
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/4dc1ba8b86ee

[DOCS-ONLY] RT-23933: clarify the affect of the -fx-tooltip-visible property on 
the Pagination control.

! modules/graphics/src/main/docs/javafx/scene/doc-files/cssref.html

Changeset: 96ca9d80b159
Author:David Grievedavid.gri...@oracle.com
Date:  2014-03-19 16:19 -0400
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/96ca9d80b159

RT-24086: disallow uni-directional bind on currentPageIndex

! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/Pagination.java
! modules/controls/src/test/java/javafx/scene/control/PaginationTest.java

Changeset: 9940be2f94f3
Author:David Grievedavid.gri...@oracle.com
Date:  2014-03-19 16:19 -0400
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/9940be2f94f3

RT-36283: override Legend computePrefWidth/Height to return zero if there are 
no legend items

! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/charts/Legend.java



hg: openjfx/2u/dev/rt: 2 new changesets

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 350a698900e9
Author:hudson
Date:  2014-03-12 14:07 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/2u/dev/rt/rev/350a698900e9

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hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: 2 new changesets

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 7ecb97f4d8ff
Author:felipe
Date:  2014-03-19 14:41 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/7ecb97f4d8ff

remove unused import

! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/glass/ui/win/WinAccessible.java

Changeset: 6b8ba389829c
Author:felipe
Date:  2014-03-19 14:43 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/6b8ba389829c

improve JNI code

! modules/graphics/src/main/native-glass/win/GlassAccessible.cpp
! modules/graphics/src/main/native-glass/win/GlassTextRangeProvider.cpp



hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-34973: TextArea: the next line is selected when triple clicking the last word of a line.

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 54d4f4b10dec
Author:leifs
Date:  2014-03-19 15:46 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/54d4f4b10dec

RT-34973: TextArea: the next line is selected when triple clicking the last 
word of a line.

! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/TextInputControl.java



hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: [Accessibility] improve JNI code

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: 27df155347e9
Author:Felipe Heidrich felipe.heidr...@oracle.com
Date:  2014-03-19 16:39 -0700
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/27df155347e9

[Accessibility] improve JNI code

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hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-29629: redirect navigation control mouse events to behavior.

2014-03-19 Thread hang . vo
Changeset: c58357d30622
Author:David Grievedavid.gri...@oracle.com
Date:  2014-03-19 19:49 -0400
URL:   http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/c58357d30622

RT-29629: redirect navigation control mouse events to behavior.
Reviewed by: jgiles

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Re: Opacity in Image.getPixelReader.getColor()

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Graham
Kevin and Jasper hit the nail on the head (Jasper's comment that the 
words are usually associated with particular ranges is mostly true 
AFAIRemember, but I can't guarantee it).


If there is part of the documentation here that could be made clearer, 
let us know...


...jim

On 3/17/14 1:07 PM, Tom Schindl wrote:

Hi,

Yes it looks like i mixed this up with transparency!

Tom

On 17.03.14 10:03, Kevin Rushforth wrote:

I'm sure Jim could word this better, but here goes...

Opacity and alpha are mostly used interchangeably. Whether the range is
expressed as a normalized value [0.0,1.0] or an 8-bit pixel value
[0,255], the meaning is the same. A value of 0 means that the color is
completely transparent. When using the default SRC_OVER blend equation,
a pixel with this color will have no effect. A value of 1.0 (if using a
normalized value) or 255 (if using an 8-bit integer value) means that
the color is fully opaque. When using the default SRC_OVER blend
equation, a pixel with this color will overwrite whatever is underneath it.

Perhaps Tom is thinking of transparency which, if we were to have such
an attribute, would be defined as (1.0-opacity).

-- Kevin


Jasper Potts wrote:

My understanding is alpha and opacity are same just different range.
Opacity is 0.0 to 1.0
Alpha is 0 to 255

Jim or Kevin will be authority on this.
Jasper



On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Tom Schindl
tom.schi...@bestsolution.at wrote:

Hi,

Maybe I'm completely wrong but to me it looks like the opacity I get
from Image.getPixelReader.getColor() is wrong.

If not mistaken the relation between alpha and opacity is expressed
with:

opacity = (255 - alpha) / 255.0

which means:

opacity 0 = alpha 255
opacity 1 = alpha 0

Running the following programm on a gif



public class OpacityBug extends Application {

@Override
public void start(Stage primaryStage) throws Exception {
Image image = new
Image(getClass().getResourceAsStream(methpri_obj.gif));
int width = (int) image.getWidth();
int height = (int) image.getHeight();
   PixelReader reader = image.getPixelReader();
for (int x = width - 1; x = 0; x--) {
for (int y = height - 1; y = 0; y--) {
int argb = reader.getArgb(x, y);
int alphaArgb = (argb  24)  0xFF;
Color color = reader.getColor(x, y);
double opacity = color.getOpacity();
System.err.println(x+,+y +  = alpha:  +
alphaArgb +  op:  + opacity +  op-alpha:  +
opacityToAlpha(opacity) +  color:  + color);
}
}
}
  private static int opacityToAlpha(double opacity) {
return (int)Math.roundopacity * 255.0) - 255) * -1));
}

public static void main(String[] args) {
Application.launch(args);
}
}


produces and output like:
15,15 = alpha: 0 op: 0.0 op-alpha: 255 color: 0x

which to my understanding is wrong. The argb value is correct (if
compared to the image because the pixel at 15,15 is fully transparent)
but then the the opacity should be 1.0 but is the opposite.

Looking at the code in Image I see:


@Override
public Color getColor(int x, int y) {
int argb = getArgb(x, y);
int a = argb  24;
int r = (argb  16)  0xff;
int g = (argb   8)  0xff;
int b = (argb  )  0xff;
return Color.rgb(r, g, b, a / 255.0);
}


which means that:
a) my formula from the above is wrong
b) or there's the bug because it should be
   return Color.rgb(r, g, b, (255 - a) / 255.0);

May I also suggest to add get a
- Color.argb(int r,int g,int b,int alpha)
maybe it is just me but I'm so much more used to alpha than opacity that
I always have to look it up when i need it.

Tom