Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread John-Val Rose
Well, if your interest is mainly in the future “cross platform king” of languages, you might just want to have a look at Kotlin and Kotlin/Native. Oh, and I have heard you can develop JavaFX apps with Kotlin too! > On 4 Feb 2018, at 13:37, Stephen Desofi wrote: > > Yes, probably me. > > Sent

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread Stephen Desofi
Yes,  probably me. Sent from iCloud On Feb 03, 2018, at 09:35 PM, John-Val Rose wrote: Well, then one of us is "off topic"... Kevin Rushforth: "We are specifically looking to discuss ideas around the following areas: * Easing barriers to contribution (e.g., making JavaFX easier to build, be

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread John-Val Rose
Well, then one of us is "off topic"... Kevin Rushforth: "We are specifically looking to discuss ideas around the following areas: * Easing barriers to contribution (e.g., making JavaFX easier to build, better documentation, making it easier to test changes) * Code review policies * API / feature

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread Stephen Desofi
John,      I think you and I are thinking on two different levels.    You are talking about the mechanics of making contributing to JavaFX easier.    I am talking about making the motivations of contributing to JavaFX easier. Steve Sent from iCloud On Feb 03, 2018, at 09:14 PM, John-Val Rose

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread John-Val Rose
Stephen, 1. Swift and your "crystal ball" view of its spectacular success in the future has nothing whatsoever to do with making contributing to JavaFX easier. 2. Like everyone else who already wants to contribute to JavaFX, we don't need someone to provide us with "a compelling story as to why d

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread Stephen Desofi
John,      The point I am making is that Swift is catching up as a cross platform toolkit and is available on: Mac and iOS, (Full Support) https://www.swift.org Android (early) https://academy.realm.io/posts/swift-on-android/ Linux:  (early) https://itsfoss.com/use-swift-linux/ Windows: (ear

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread John-Val Rose
Stephen - I’m not quite following you. This thread is about improving the ease with which the community can contribute to JavaFX. I see no point in comparing JavaFX (a cross platform graphics toolkit for JVM languages) with a Swift (a general purpose programming language that runs on Apple har

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread Laurent Bourgès
Hi Chris, I'm more than happy to keep the community JavaFX build server at chriswhocodes.com running and host JDK 8/9/10/n + FX builds there. At the moment it's mostly used by the Raspberry Pi community to grab JavaFX overlays for JDK8 on ARM. I can also build and host OSX and Windows builds t

Re: More community participation in JavaFX

2018-02-03 Thread Stephen Desofi
This begs the question, why has the bar been set too low? I am new to this community and don’t know much history other than a couple weeks of bug fix messages flying by. I am not even clear of what our role and purpose is supposed to be. Are we here for only bug fixes, and follow the di