Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim Hardware Requeriments

2009-02-19 Thread Torrid Luna
Hi Geetika, Also sprach Geetika S (geetik...@tcs.com): Thanks Torrid. I was thinking more in terms of doing real-time mixing of multiple streams on the streaming server and sending it off. This way webcam feeds of everyone in a conference room can be displayed on a wall - everyone sees

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Dirk Krause
As soon as you buy it, the asset gets copied to your regions asset repository (if it is something that persists while you are not online, like a house maybe) and it goes into your personal repository when it's an attachement (like clothing). -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
Initiatives like this is why I'm a hardcore proponent of keeping the services encapsulated, indirected, modular and flexible, ie, not tie core to any given technology or assumptions about data storage configuration. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009

Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim Hardware Requeriments

2009-02-19 Thread Melanie
.NET generally needs a bit less memory, but that was done on mono. Melanie Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 05:23:04AM +, Melanie wrote: You can't currently hard-limit anything. We have seen 20+ avatars in regions with 6000+ prims on less memory than that. Was that Mono, or

Re: [Opensim-dev] Please do not revert fixes without careful comtemplation

2009-02-19 Thread Melanie
One of the core developers has tested it. I don't recall who. Any indirection can only slow things, it adds processing overhead. If NHibernate canbe made faster with indexes, than the same indexes will speed up native access even more. I'm happy I finally took the time to get rid of the MySQL

Re: [Opensim-dev] Heads Up: Updating Prebuild to Upstream

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
First of all, sorry for the cross-post, just felt the 'users' (whatever that means) should be aware of this as well: I have now updated Prebuild from upstream. Please, try the latest rev out and report to me if I have caused any breakage or regressions. Thank you to Kunnis and JHurliman

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
Dirk, I think you are on the right track here - concentrating on one use case at a time. That is probably the way to move forward on this issue. BUT do keep in mind that the overshadowing, out-there-right-now, case is the 'Linden Viewer Compatible Social World'. So whatever we

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r8496 - in trunk/OpenSim/Region: CoreModules/Avatar/InstantMessage Framework/Interfaces

2009-02-19 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
m...@opensimulator.org wrote: Author: mw Date: 2009-02-19 04:38:17 -0800 (Thu, 19 Feb 2009) New Revision: 8496 Modified: trunk/OpenSim/Region/CoreModules/Avatar/InstantMessage/MessageTransferModule.cs trunk/OpenSim/Region/Framework/Interfaces/IMessageTransferModule.cs Log:

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r8496 - in trunk/OpenSim/Region: CoreModules/Avatar/InstantMessage Framework/Interfaces

2009-02-19 Thread Melanie
As a concept, +1. The config file setup makes it so it will never happen by default and I'm good with it being a conscious user action. The implementation should be discussed, that may be possible to include in/link with the region module interface revamp. Melanie Justin Clark-Casey wrote:

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Tommi Laukkanen
I think somekind of hybrid of different strategies might work well. Maybe each storage provider could keep the assets in database and use hash to ensure there is no duplicates and a separate metadata entry which is ref counted with the binary. Anyhow this would be up to the specific storage

Re: [Opensim-dev] Heads Up: Updating Prebuild to Upstream

2009-02-19 Thread Tommi Laukkanen
*applauds* On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Stefan Andersson ste...@tribalmedia.sewrote: First of all, sorry for the cross-post, just felt the 'users' (whatever that means) should be aware of this as well: I have now updated Prebuild from upstream. Please, try the latest rev out and report

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Melanie
That won't wash. If i give copy perm just because i need it to be no trans, that doesn't mean that I condone off-grid use or personal backup. It has to be separated from the perms as we know them. Most clothing is no mod/no trans. That doesn't mean that the clothing creator would want me to

Re: [Opensim-dev] oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Melanie
No one would sue over a $0.05 shirt. The point of technical copy protection is not to block copying. It is to make it require criminal energy. You can't do it accidentally, or because you don't know better, it prevents casual copying. You need to invest criminal energy, either by downloading

[Opensim-dev] WG: oddities with asset storage

2009-02-19 Thread Ralf Haifisch
Having done some right management implementation, I would guess this is only fixable by a right management system. The possibility to adjust rights (who is allowed to do what) must be bound to the single object, rather than using a ACL-based concept. If you want to read some thoughts about