Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to OpenSim.log, etc, log config

2014-03-26 Thread Oren Hurvitz
This doesn't change the amount of data logged; it just makes it easier to use
since the files are smaller, and it makes finding events of interest easier.

Your objection is to the *number* of files? I admit that this wasn't a
concern for me because I do save the logs in a log subdirectory. So how
about we do that? If we're changing the behavior of log files then we might
as well make all the changes we want at one time.



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Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to OpenSim.log, etc, log config

2014-03-26 Thread Melanie
IMHO, this is a change that should have been discussed beforehand.
This is just the kind of change we try to avoid making without
consultation.

That said, I am against this change. A possible alternative would be
to include this as an alternate configuration, commented out, i
these files and maybe document how to change it, but to change the
default is not the way we do this. It will play hell with
installations where people use operating system features and/or
external programs to rotate and/or archive logs.

Options are fine, changing defaults without discussion is not.

Melanie

On 26/03/2014 07:35, Oren Hurvitz wrote:
 This doesn't change the amount of data logged; it just makes it easier to use
 since the files are smaller, and it makes finding events of interest easier.
 
 Your objection is to the *number* of files? I admit that this wasn't a
 concern for me because I do save the logs in a log subdirectory. So how
 about we do that? If we're changing the behavior of log files then we might
 as well make all the changes we want at one time.
 
 
 
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to OpenSim.log, etc, log config

2014-03-26 Thread R.Gunther

Shame, its something that i mentoinded years ago. and still missing.
The logs are getting to big and not workable.
Make the log rolling optional a config parameter in the opensim.ini
Also before mentoined. but it then in seperate directory.

On 2014-03-26 07:59, Oren Hurvitz wrote:

I reverted this change as it would break the setup for users who already
implemented log-rolling in some other way.

The use of RollingFileAppender is now only a suggestion in a comment in the
config files.



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Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to OpenSim.log, etc, log config

2014-03-26 Thread Marcus Llewellyn
Logging isn't actually handled directly by OpenSim, but rather by it's
log4net library. This library looks in OpenSIm.exe.config to see how it
should handle logs, including things like rolling logs, and how the logs
are named. It does all of this before OpenSim even has a chance to open
it's own INI files. To an extent, it's outside of OpenSim;s control and
scope, requiring a person to read up on log4net options someplace like
http://logging.apache.org/log4net/release/config-examples.html

If you like, you can even choose to use your own version of
OpenSim.exe.config using the logconfig command line switch.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:41 AM, R.Gunther ri...@rigutech.nl wrote:

 Shame, its something that i mentoinded years ago. and still missing.
 The logs are getting to big and not workable.
 Make the log rolling optional a config parameter in the opensim.ini
 Also before mentoined. but it then in seperate directory.


 On 2014-03-26 07:59, Oren Hurvitz wrote:

 I reverted this change as it would break the setup for users who already
 implemented log-rolling in some other way.

 The use of RollingFileAppender is now only a suggestion in a comment in
 the
 config files.



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Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to OpenSim.log, etc, log config

2014-03-26 Thread Oren Hurvitz
I included a comment in the config files (e.g., OpenSim.exe.config) that
shows how to enable log-rolling. Just modify a few lines in the file.

It would be a lot of work to implement this as an option in OpenSim because
it would require using the log4net API to change how it works at runtime.
It's not impossible, but I'm not going to attempt it.



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