Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
Some people still use the old format to load regions, makes it easier to load balance the region server when doing rolling restarts :) 2014-04-12 3:14 GMT+02:00 Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com: I don't see any problem with removing this - it's an extremely old format that I'd be surprised if anybody still uses. On 11/04/14 02:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev . -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
Hey I Just dug though my web based region file, and its base on a single line XML format region name= location_x= ... / Would this be needed to updated with this proposal? On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Michael Emory Cerquoni nebadon2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 the only grid I know that probably was using it was Reaction Grid, and they are no longer open so I also doubt anyone else is using it at this point either. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't see any problem with removing this - it's an extremely old format that I'd be surprised if anybody still uses. On 11/04/14 02:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev . -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- Michael Emory Cerquoni ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
Yes - Melanie On 12/04/2014 14:27, David Saunders wrote: Hey I Just dug though my web based region file, and its base on a single line XML format region name= location_x= ... / Would this be needed to updated with this proposal? On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Michael Emory Cerquoni nebadon2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 the only grid I know that probably was using it was Reaction Grid, and they are no longer open so I also doubt anyone else is using it at this point either. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't see any problem with removing this - it's an extremely old format that I'd be surprised if anybody still uses. On 11/04/14 02:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev . -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- Michael Emory Cerquoni ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
On 04/11/2014 09:42 AM, Melanie wrote: That format needs to be changed. The old format is: region name= location_x= ... / The new format will be: Nini Section name=Region_1 key name=Name value= / key name=Location_x value= / /Section /Nini +1 BlueWall ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
+1 as long as there's a good wiki page written to convert the old files to the new format 2014-04-11 3:58 GMT+02:00 James Stallings II james.stalli...@gmail.com: For my part, I thought it was long gone :) On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Melanie mela...@t-data.com wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- === http://osgrid.org/ http://simhost.com http://twitter.com/jstallings2 ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
Suprissed its still there, well people did have time enough to change the xml files to ini files on newer versions. For me, using long time ini files so you can remove it. On 2014-04-11 03:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
How does this relate to the XML format for web configuration? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:10 AM, R.Gunther ri...@rigutech.nl wrote: Suprissed its still there, well people did have time enough to change the xml files to ini files on newer versions. For me, using long time ini files so you can remove it. On 2014-04-11 03:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
That format needs to be changed. The old format is: region name= location_x= ... / The new format will be: Nini Section name=Region_1 key name=Name value= / key name=Location_x value= / /Section /Nini Server script that generate the old format dynamically need to be changed to generate the new format instead, - Melanie ... /region On 11/04/2014 15:35, David Saunders wrote: How does this relate to the XML format for web configuration? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:10 AM, R.Gunther ri...@rigutech.nl wrote: Suprissed its still there, well people did have time enough to change the xml files to ini files on newer versions. For me, using long time ini files so you can remove it. On 2014-04-11 03:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
I don't see any problem with removing this - it's an extremely old format that I'd be surprised if anybody still uses. On 11/04/14 02:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev . -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
+1 the only grid I know that probably was using it was Reaction Grid, and they are no longer open so I also doubt anyone else is using it at this point either. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Justin Clark-Casey jjusti...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't see any problem with removing this - it's an extremely old format that I'd be surprised if anybody still uses. On 11/04/14 02:03, Melanie wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev . -- Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) OSVW Consulting http://justincc.org http://twitter.com/justincc ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- Michael Emory Cerquoni ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Legacy region XML support - Remove?
For my part, I thought it was long gone :) On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Melanie mela...@t-data.com wrote: Hi, the RegionInfo class supports an ancient form of XML, one that is based on attributes rather than tags. At this point, we believe no one uses this format anymore. Further, NINI offers another form of XML that is much more up to date and a better replacement for the ancient XML in any case. The affected installations would be those that use pre-0.6 configuration files (regions.xml) or use web loading. The old config files would need to be redone by hand in .ini format, and people who web-load would need to change the server scripts to provide the same data in the new format, which is not too hard a task. I propose to remove the support for the legacy format, which has last been updated in 2007 and has been unused for two major revisions. Thoughts are welcome. Melanie ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- === http://osgrid.org/ http://simhost.com http://twitter.com/jstallings2 ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
