Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Dennis Clarke wrote: Wow. Guys, the civilization came to a point where well-behaved dogs no longer go crazy at the sight of a cat. Why would Solaris fans should be different at the sound of the word "Linux" ;) A welcome into the world of Solaris should be more welcome. no one was barking la

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> > Wow. Guys, the civilization came to a point where well-behaved dogs no > longer go crazy at the sight of a cat. Why would Solaris fans should be > different at the sound of the word "Linux" ;) A welcome into the world > of Solaris should be more welcome. no one was barking Dennis Clarke

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Wow. Guys, the civilization came to a point where well-behaved dogs no longer go crazy at the sight of a cat. Why would Solaris fans should be different at the sound of the word "Linux" ;) A welcome into the world of Solaris should be more welcome. Noel, I think most your questions has been

[osol-discuss] Re: Request for Community Comment: An

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Bray
> and even some small businesses need. The price, form factor and noise > of these solutions also detracts many users from such solutions. > > - well .. maybe. I guess if we are talking small 5 man shops then yes, > no one wants an Opteron screamer jet engine roaring in their office Exactly the

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for Community Comment: An Enterprise-Quality Small Server/Appliance

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Looking forward (rather nervously) to your comments, > Peter > Proposal: The Enterprise-Quality Small Server/Appliance Computer - great idea Basic Rational: The power of current server computer systems extends far beyond what most SOHO (Small Office / Home Office) - yep .. you're dead accu

[osol-discuss] Request for Community Comment: An Enterprise-Quality Small Server/Appliance

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Bray
Greetings, The following ideas have been rolling around in my head for a while now, so yesterday I decided to write them down. I believe this is a reasonable starting point for a system which does not exist in the market today. So I have decided to request the opinions of those wiser then mysel

[osol-discuss] Re: Eclipse on Solaris x86 (ON 54 + bfus)

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis
I have also run in to these bugs with HotSpot. I have been able to core HotSpot while in Eclipse, three different ways (on cvs export, Eclipse started with java -server, and opening Ant files). I tried sending a bug to Sun, but I have not heard back yet. This message posted from opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> I think we need to point out to our Linux friends that once they do this >> that will will pollute the root directory with crud. Things like the >> .bash_history and if they actually login vie dtlogin/gdm or whatever that >> they will really bork

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Rich, you need to ask the question "why was I there?" of all people? > > Nope! > >> you *know* where I stand on Linux vs Solaris issues. > > Yep; you're about as anti-Linux as me. :-) not really ... I have spent a fair amount of time with Deb

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Derek E. Lewis
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: I think we need to point out to our Linux friends that once they do this that will will pollute the root directory with crud. Things like the .bash_history and if they actually login vie dtlogin/gdm or whatever that they will really bork it up wwith ju

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Rich, you need to ask the question "why was I there?" of all people? Nope! > you *know* where I stand on Linux vs Solaris issues. Yep; you're about as anti-Linux as me. :-) > The collection of Linux sysadmins were laughing and saying outright

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> [1] the thing booted after install with a text console and pumped out >> errors >> about X this that and the other thing. I suspect a broken FX-1200 >> but then again .. the console worked fine in text mode. :-( >> >> This was just a j

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> >> But let's face it .. it isn't. UNIX and Linux are not for the masses >>and no amount of snazzy graphics or a tetris game in the installer will >> make >>it easy. I just have a minimal expectation that the current feature set >> are >>reflected in some way in the in

[osol-discuss] Offtopic: Blogging engine with DocBook support ?

2007-01-13 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! [Ok... this may be horrible offtopic for OpenSolaris... but maybe there are some people who played around with "Roller" (which runs http://bugs.sun.com) and other Blog engines and may be able to help] Does anyone have a recommendation for a blogging engine which accepts DocBook/XML as

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > [1] the thing booted after install with a text console and pumped out errors > about X this that and the other thing. I suspect a broken FX-1200 > but then again .. the console worked fine in text mode. :-( > > This was just a joke for the

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Ian Collins
Dennis Clarke wrote: > > But let's face it .. it isn't. UNIX and Linux are not for the masses >and no amount of snazzy graphics or a tetris game in the installer will make >it easy. I just have a minimal expectation that the current feature set are >reflected in some way in the installer. Like

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, David Lloyd wrote: > I wonder if a "Migrating from Linux" community exists... Of course there is--it's part of the OpenSolaris community. :-) Actually, more seriously, I think this is the sort of thing that the Immigrants Community on opensolaris.org is for... -- Rich Tee

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis, > >>> I'm not so sure we've got the culprit here. I'd blame X...they're just >>> as painful in Linux and FreeBSD. >> >> Well, I'm not a Linux guy ya know? But it feels like lately when I >> install Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Enterpoop Linux 10 or boot a >> KnoppiX DVD that every

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread David Lloyd
Dennis, I'm not so sure we've got the culprit here. I'd blame X...they're just as painful in Linux and FreeBSD. Well, I'm not a Linux guy ya know? But it feels like lately when I install Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Enterpoop Linux 10 or boot a KnoppiX DVD that everything looks sweet a

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis, > >> Let's just say that the instalelr is a piece of crud that had been >> kicking >> around forever. When you install a production grade Solaris with CDROM's >> it will still load in each CDROM one at a time and then it stupidly asks >> you what to do with the CDROM that it just re

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, noel wrote: > >> 1. the command line isn't bash, so I'm kinda stuck about that. can it be >> switched to bash? or is the solaris command line better than bash... > > The default Solaris shell is /bin/sh, which is the original Bourne shell. > You're free to change your user's

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread David Lloyd
Dennis, Let's just say that the instalelr is a piece of crud that had been kicking around forever. When you install a production grade Solaris with CDROM's it will still load in each CDROM one at a time and then it stupidly asks you what to do with the CDROM that it just read? Shall I in

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Hi, > > I'm giving open solaris a try (installed in vmware), but I'm running into > some difficulties. Its not "linux" if probably the first thing that you ran into :-) I always try to tell people that the command line in Windows XP is not Linux either but we all seem to expect "ls" to ju

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread Derek E. Lewis
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, noel wrote: 1. the command line isn't bash, so I'm kinda stuck about that. can it be switched to bash? or is the solaris command line better than bash... The default Solaris shell is /bin/sh, which is the original Bourne shell. You're free to change your user's shell to a

[osol-discuss] new to solaris, some differences from linux...

2007-01-13 Thread noel
Hi, I'm giving open solaris a try (installed in vmware), but I'm running into some difficulties. 1. the command line isn't bash, so I'm kinda stuck about that. can it be switched to bash? or is the solaris command line better than bash... 2. I've heard zfs is supposed to be great and was hoping

[osol-discuss] Re: the bests services

2007-01-13 Thread ismet redouane
I NEED SOMME DUMPS FROM EU CAN YOU HELP ME? MY ADRES IS [EMAIL PROTECTED] we can speak ther by mess..? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Jumpstart Linux NFSv4 mount problem

2007-01-13 Thread UNIX admin
> Howdy > > I'm new to this thread but not Solaris in general. > > I'm trying to get Solaris 10 jumpstart to work using > a Linux server. > > The big problem I have is the apparent compatibility > issues between Linux (2.6 kernel, tried both Fedora > core 4 and 6) NFS version 4 (nfs-utils 1.0.7-

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Jumpstart Linux NFSv4 mount problem

2007-01-13 Thread Casper . Dik
>which tells me my cpio flag's not set right, etc. > >Any quick clues on what's the best way to zip the miniroot back up into usable >form? It needs to be a ufs image; so not packed with cpio. Steps are: - gunzip - lofiadm the resulting file - mount - make chang