On 04/10/2010 18:45, George Vasick wrote:
I can reproduce the problem on my system running bash so I don't think
it is related the the shell:
OK, was just wondering if it might be related to
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6974936
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On 01/10/2010 03:17, Saadia Fatima wrote:
Invalid argc value is passed to main, when I run the program with no cmmand
line arguments
main(argc = 134551360, argv=0x8047b2a) // from gdb
How to fix this??
Which shell are you using?
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On 31/07/2010 21:01, usafverteran wrote:
You are the biggest contributor to keeping this story going. Do you take
pleasure in keeping this topic alive?
*COUGH*
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-July/058383.html
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FYI:
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/161333
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On 15/07/2010 16:48, Gary wrote:
Please remove me or give me the link so I may do it myself.
I've already done that off-list. I'll resend the mail to you.
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'.
The version of Jive we are running is old and no longer supported, and
we haven't been creating Jive forums to pair up with new mailing lists
for quite some time. We haven't decided what to replace Jive with in
the future, but for now it should be considered to be 'deprecated'.
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the
action we have. I'm hoping that we won't have to do so again.
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respond to hostile posts because that only escalates the situation.
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/tou
It appears that some people haven't heeded this warning.
We *will* take action if the personal insults and name-calling don't stop.
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name of new BE
At this point, the new BE can be booted into.
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http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=14673
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either. I can only use data-cable :( Also, I'm a newbie @ UNIX tbh.
See http://blogs.sun.com/chrisg/entry/mobile_internet_on_opensolaris
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They should answer most of your questions.
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Gary wrote:
I'll ask any question I want, so GFY!
Last warning: another mail like that and you'll be removed from the
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on OpenSolaris. Only to turn around and spend millions more
to make OpenSolaris the new Solaris 11.
There's a number of misconceptions there, most of which Alan Coopersmith
addressed in an earlier post:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-February/053914.html
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This conversation seems to be taking a bit of a death spiral. Please
keep it polite, folks. We can, and will, take action if necessary.
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remarks on this alias, please send a list of names
to website-admin.
If we feel that individuals are violating the site TOU we reserve the
right, as outlined in the TOU, to suspend people immediately, and with
no further warning.
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. We've therefore
rebuilt with gcc 4.3.4, which doesn't have the same issue. If you
downloaded the original tarball, we recommend you replace it with the
new version.
Thanks.
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That link gets redirected correctly for me.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006033001/
That's not working properly, I'll investigate.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/gcc/flagday/
That link gets redirected correctly for me.
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Alan Burlison wrote:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006033001/
That's not working properly, I'll investigate.
We've identified the cause of the problem and are working on a fix,
we'll send out a heads-up when it is in place.
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a notification when we are done.
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be unavailable for the next four hours whilst the Auth upgrade is in
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Also, I am only able to get 1024x768 screen.
See http://blogs.sun.com/alanbur/entry/kicking_both_tyres_together_virtualbox
for instructions on how to increase the resolution.
This message posted from opensolaris.org
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, or the decisions
which are made.
I'm not saying that the constitution couldn't do with tuning in some
areas, but I disagree with the areas and justifications that you've chosen.
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Alan Burlison wrote:
Bearing in mind there's only ever been one vote
Before someone points it out, there have been two - the Community
priorities/Test vote and the OGB/Constitution vote.
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, but I haven't seen anything in your proposal that I agree with
*and* that needs to be enshrined in the constitution.
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is holding that discussion up? Why has it not yet been
voted upon?
Again, I believe the OGB are discussing this tomorrow.
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defined or
delegated.
Sigh. Really, you want to come off the top of the semantic molehill
that you've built for yourself. it really won't support your argument.
[ Rest snipped, I really can't be bothered repeating myself again ].
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Shawn Walker wrote:
[more stuff]
Please don't cc me on any more mail on this subject, I won't be taking
any further part, nor will I be reading the traffic on opensolaris-discuss.
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proposal is a
concrete step towards a resolution, no matter how rough you think it is
at the moment. Thank you for doing it.
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result in the trashing of the entire opensolaris 'idea'. After
all, we, Sun chose to go down this route in the first place, it is we
who must take the responsibility of delivering on what we committed to.
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Not in the least bit.
That, at least, seems clear.
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opinion of the
community, not statements from one individual or another.
I find the continuing attempts to avoid addressing this fundamental
issue of community governance extremely perturbing. One might be forced
to draw the conclusion that it's a deliberate tactic.
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the current version of the
proposal or not.
If someone has something concrete, can we please have a page set up and
the link widely disseminated? Ta.
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or rejected by the OGB
itself.
Agreed, I should have been more explicit and put that in. We elected
the OGB to be the voice of the community, it seems right that they
should be given the power to act in that role in this case.
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try to crystalise a veto like that.
We may find our attitudes have changed. If they haven't - well, fair
enough.
No. We need a decision before then. 2 weeks may be too short, 6 months
is way too long.
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there's a better suggestion, I'm all for it.
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Alan Burlison wrote:
I'd therefore suggest that a deadline is set of 2 weeks for preparing a
proposal and associated plan to be put to the OpenSolaris community at
large. The Advocacy Community and the Trademark and Branding Project
are to be responsible for producing the proposal
figured I'd see some voting happen before decisions were made.
+1 - there should have been a vote.
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see so
often in the OpenSolaris 'community', where multiple small subsets of
the 'community' all simultaneously claim to speak for the majority, with
no evidence to support their claim.
We have democratic mechanisms, we should damn well use them.
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probably happened a little faster, but they are all areas that were
already being worked on.
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If a ballot is announced, I won't see a problem either.
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will be the point of having a vote on something that is a fait
accompli?
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is that *not* a fait accompli?
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happened, when and why.
Agreed 100% Alan and thanks for calling me on it.
No probs, and thanks :-)
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for it until the community gets their collective posteriors in gear
and makes a final decision.
Has the community been asked to make a final decision?
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When it is probably too late. Where have you all been for the last N
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on it, if approved then
C) The proposal is acted on
The A C B ordering that's being used here is certainly novel.
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the
mandate of the community. Otherwise this debate will rumble on, and on,
and on. Holding a vote would mean that a clear line could be drawn
under the issue and the community could move on.
I'll be perfectly happy to accept *whatever* decision the community makes.
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Shawn Walker wrote:
It's hard to propose something intangible; now we have something
tangible to base our proposal on. Seems far more logical that way,
doesn't it?
So where is the announcement about step B - the vote?
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one. We should have a
vote. This would help draw a line under the endless mail threads (such
as this) that the current situation will cause.
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Shawn Walker wrote:
So where is the announcement about step B - the vote?
That would require the proposal to be finished; why don't you go help
us finish it?
Because I'm working up to 18 hours a day single-handedly trying to
rewrite opensolaris.org.
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have
chosen to address, regardless of their motives for doing so. We fall
back to a democratic process when that fails. Now is the time for
iteration.
Who has the mandate to say when iteration is appropriate and when the
democratic process is appropriate?
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the OpenSolaris framework. If
the project team were content to be known as Indiana or some other
name that does not imply the community's exclusive endorsement without
our consent, the entire controversy would evaporate very quickly.
Agreed.
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Simon Phipps wrote:
Who has the mandate to say when iteration is appropriate and when the
democratic process is appropriate?
Oh, the irony :-)
I wasn't being ironic. Who is it? I think it's an important question.
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meta-arguments about who
decides/when it is appropriate for there to be a vote. If there is no
effective process for deciding when a vote is appropriate, then there is
effectively no voting process at all.
Article III
Members are given the right to vote on Community-wide decisions
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John Plocher wrote:
Even better, contribute and make the project something that
reflects your values - make it something you can vote *for*.
On 31/10/2007, Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What will be the point of having a vote on something that is a fait
accompli?
I've already
that has been discussed before. Hey I know, let's put a
proposal together on how it should be fixed and then vote on it.
- Ah no, wait
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time I mailed about this webapp it caused some confusion; it
has nothing to do with Solaris, it is the application that will be used
to manage user accounts, communities and projects for the
opensolaris.org domain.
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...I'm just a
no-op.;-)
1. It is the job of the *community* to do this, not 'Folks with
OpenSolaris in their job title'. If you thing it should be done - go do it.
2. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/summerofcode/
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The source is available from:
svn+ssh://opensolaris.org/svn/website/auth
It is also be browsable on-line at:
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/website/auth
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the Zones documentation,
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592 and the BigAdmin Zones page,
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/zones/index.html
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website-discuss.
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Pradhap Devarajan wrote:
I agree with Brain.. navigation in OpenSolaris.org is not user friendly ...
major FOSS projects websites http://debian.org http://www.ubuntu.com/ are
more user friendly.. If OpenSolaris.org is meant
applications accessing the common
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from solaris .Can i know whats might be problem is there anyway to debug
this .
Please note, the correct forum for this question is solaris-help
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to be inputted to work.
Does anyone know how I can pass a password on a Bash script?
Or
Is there a better way to backing up my Open Solaris system to a Windows 2003
share? It seems that the smbmount command is a bit a headache.
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a
platform for developers and the users of the product to share ideas,
experiences and feedback about the product for the benefit of everyone.
Posted by Gaurav Jain on August 23, 2007 02:30 PM
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This is also interesting
http://blogs.adobe.com/johnnyl/2007/08/innovate_or_integrate_3.html
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of response when the opensolaris effort was started.
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venting is going to improve things?
Please calm down. Making personal attacks on execs at other companies
isn't going to help us one jot.
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Frank Hofmann wrote:
If that's not encouraging to you, feel free to go back sulking in your
cave ;) but personally, I take it as a great sign of things to come !
Good news indeed :)
My sentiments entirely :-)
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This whole policing opensolaris: discuss is getting out of hand. Really.
Ummm, he was joking.
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UNIX admin wrote:
Ummm, he was joking.
Can't say that I found it funny.
Oh, please - lighten up! :-)
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vendor trying to be 'helpful' by
including the HSFS filesystem?
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they actually do.
I'd therefore request that we just stick to what we *do* know and leave
the speculation to other people.
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MC wrote:
This is a good post for the help forum. :)
Yes, please move this thread onto opensolaris-help - thanks!
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if newbies post here?
I've put a reference to os-help in the top of the page, but I don't know
how you change the order of the forums in the list below...
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fairly clear to me...
It is very important that we give as much help to new users as possible,
since we want to hold on to them..
Send me the content and I'll include it.
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/about/help
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/contact/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussiongroups
Those who wanted to blog about this, fire away ;-)
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*except* installation questions.
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It's about time the community stopped 'suggesting' and started 'doing' IMHO.
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follow the BigAdmin link from that page.
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an area where the community should take responsibility
for solving the problem. As I said, it's about time the community
stopped expecting to be spoon-fed at every turn, and started taking
responsibility for solving some of the issues.
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