to answer, and is
removing as many questions as possible.
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an ax to grind. For all I know they might
supply Xsun :).
The suppliers of Xsun (including me) generally agree we want to replace
it with Xorg.
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login to the
system after the install.
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. I am just trying to learn about this
OS. I have windows only background. IT student
The password box won't show what you're typing - not even
stars or anything by default. Have you typed your password
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, synaptics and PS/2
customizations, wlan support, and other features such as ebuttons and
other features unique to the platform.
+1
(I assume the Laptop community will be endorsing this as well?)
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OSNet would be one of several. It's something
we'll be talking about in the OGB as we get to re-examining the current state
of the communities.
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, the point where we decide to fork is our problem, not
other people's problem.
But how can we possibly have a common ARC if we all have different
releases?Do we just throw all the ARC distinctions about what you
can do in major, minor, micro out the window?
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Rob Giltrap wrote:
Seeing that Garrett has applied to Mentor it then your perceived problem
is solved as he is not a Sun person.
You might want to go doublecheck namefinder (just ignore the second entry
for Garrett.Deleteme.Damore)...
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of the next Xorg server release which is
currently in release candidate testing by X.Org now, and will probably be in
SXCE in builds around 65-67ish (assuming X.Org doesn't slip release too late).
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on that screen that would
interfere with the screenshot.
Otherwise you could run something like sdtimage or xwd in an xterm, but
then you'ld get those windows in your screenshots.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now comes the really hard part .. the waiting !
Was somebody able to do a real OGB voting after he did
finish the prevoting on March 12th?
I was.
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...
CoolStack was delivered separately - these ARC cases are about
integrating into Solaris instead.
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heads up message at:
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what you find
objectionable (i.e. what wording on what screen/application) I'm
not sure what they can do.
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/opt/apache2 over
/opt/apache2.2.
These ARC cases are for integration to Solaris, so /opt is inappropriate,
and /usr is correct.
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check -all will give you a large subset of that on
Nevada, though in Studio 11, much of it is only fully functional on
SPARC, not x64. (I believe that's being resolved in Studio 12.)
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as any sign of change
from the Adobe side.
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to use,
getting duplicate hits from /onnv/, /netvirt/, /clearview/, etc.
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Calvin Liu wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 22:22 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Calvin Liu wrote:
So far I know there's some commands available to detect the system
configuration like prtconf, sysdef, dmesg, etc. But seems none of them
can tell me which model of the graphics card that I'm using
by link spammers hoping you
wouldn't notice their crap on an older blog entry. (The limit is
configurable by the blog owner, but most are in the 1 week to 1 month
range, and this blog entry is over a month old.)
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are both moving this direction on x86 (Solaris has always
had kernel mode drivers for graphics on SPARC) - see:
http://www.keithp.com/blog/kernel-mode-drivers.html
http://blogs.sun.com/alanc/entry/moving_x86_video_drivers_into
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to have adequately tested maintained them.
We're actually working now on Matrox hardware for the first time since
shipping Xorg since some server vendors use Matrox chipsets in their
remote console cards, and they've provided us with the hardware for those.
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De Togni Giacomo wrote:
Good issue.If Linux sources == OpenSolaris and RHEL == Solaris,which is the member of
Fedora expression? ( Fedora == ?)
I'd say:
Fedora Release = Solaris Express Developer Edition
Fedora Development/Rawhide = Solaris Express Community Edition
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code?
The source code for most of it will be available on opensolaris.org.
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The latest drivers will be published on nvidia.com a month or two before
they appear in the OpenSolaris Community Edition releases.
pkginfo -l NVDAgraphics should show what version you have installed for
comparison against the nvidia site.
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teams.
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John Rice wrote:
Hi,
We'd like to propose a Mozilla DTrace project for inclusion on
Opensolaris.org. We'd like it to be an endorsed project of the DTrace,
Desktop and Performance Communities.
+1!
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found):
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=24027tstart=0
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Ian Collins wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=24027tstart=0
Any idea when the 64 bit nVidia driver will ship?
We're gonna try to get it into nv_60 or nv_61 if possible.
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and not worth
arguing. I don't know if others felt the same way or not, but if you'ld
calm down a bit, get all your thoughts in one e-mail, send it and then
wait, I imagine you'ld get better responses.
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hardware so we wouldn't be delivering
untested code to Solaris.
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Simon Phipps wrote:
None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In
addition, neither have:
Alan Coopersmith
I accept.
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on martux though, I think you would easily qualify for
one of the Contributor at Large spots, by mailing cab-discuss to
request such status.
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be agreed upon.
In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup
of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization
community with Xen qemu projects.
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on a huge
customer and user base. The comments below also show how groups that
should be working together are having silo issues:(
No one here will argue with you, but the people who have decided not to
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closed source, that's outside the scope of the OpenSolaris community.
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Michael Lee wrote:
The proposal is great but I'd personally like to see--a bit off topic--AMD/ATI
port their OpenGL drivers to Solaris x86.
So would we, but that's, as you note, a different topic.
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then they can offer the open source release as an alternative to
customers who still want it.
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own $HOME/.xsession without hassles. (No idea yet about gdm
...)
$HOME/.dtprofile is a dtlogin interface, not a gdm one.
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organized relatively quickly, set up
some basic infrastructure that can be used each year - this is what this
proposal aims to achieve.
+1
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it (and it probably
shouldn't be the default, since it's no longer recommended for new
sites). Unless you're in a corporate network with NIS or NIS+ set
up for you, you probably just want DNS.
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, not the
license it is under.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community members with a single
Ultra 10, or older PC without
TrueType engine, used in both Xsun Xorg).)
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Desktop? (I'm presuming we're
talking about simultaneously running at least X/GNOME, multiple
gnome-terminals, and Firefox.)
The Developer Edition requires 768Mb RAM to run the Developer Edition
version of the installer, so half that would be 384Mb RAM.
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this could be a project that
delivers via the JDS consolidation (which is already not built as a
true single consolidation, but consolidates packages from multiple
builds into a single WOS delivery).
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.
Seems too wide a boundary, since it would then include everything in
every other part of OpenSolaris too.
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because Sun
used an unofficial alpha code as ksh basis.
Sun used the code that The Open Group licensed from ATT for CDE 1.0 dtksh.
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not munging it in,
it's delivering it where it naturally belongs. See http://www.gtk.org/
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done.(And this is fasttrack level
paperwork - just describe the interfaces - no one-pager, no twenty questions.)
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how to log in there to check).
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Thanks for your feedback - the people proposing this are taking it
into consideration, and the current proposal was not approved.
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the CCD for Nevada is a worthwhile goal.
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Girts Zeltins wrote:
Log in text mode and run command kdmconfig and then choose XSun and then
configure your Video settings.
Ultra 10 is a SPARC, which only has Xsun in nv_57, and has no
kdmconfig.
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, and similar interfaces
that other applications may depend on are planned to stick around.
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/var/tmp//ccgyLdOf.o
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to bkf
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [bkf] Error 1
-lsocket -lnsl
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network host entry
SYNOPSIS
cc [ flag... ] file... -lnsl [ library... ]
#include netdb.h
Unfortunately, not all the bits from other open source projects
have this in their man pages (I know most X ones don't, though
I've been adding it in where I can).
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libXpm directly (as it
presumably does on everything but Solaris) is the best answer.
For code without source, dropping a bunch of filter symbols into
libXm to redirect to libXpm is something I've thought of doing,
but not had time to get to yet.
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not as easily searchable:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/desktop-discuss/
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certainly had my vote as we're stuck using it anyway to work with
the X.Org sources, which are now in git, but I understand it wasn't
the best fit to the criteria the community chose, so accept that
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to be a Firefox problem, not an Xorg one.
Does opera do something else with images? It does not seem to cause the
same problem.
I will re-test opera again to check my original test.
Sorry - I've never used Opera and don't know what it does.
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officially liked
Intel, and the facts of the matter haven't changed on this since last
summer.)
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time, but that's not what the project team chose to do.
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to and later released.
(Xsun has a hack to use mmap() for large pixmaps so that it can return memory
to the OS, but this hasn't been ported to Xorg.)
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many components with the JDS project. The distribution of Xfce
would
be up to the distribution builds. e.g. Sun could still include it on the
companion CD. Also
there would be development releases using the same process as the JDS project.
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is an interesting read when discussing corporate control vs. non-profit
foundations.
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disassmbler
already? Would it be easier to use of those than start from scratch?
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S Destika wrote:
Secondly most use x86 and Solaris won't work there
I'll admit there are some areas that need improvement, but
Solaris certainly works on x86, and more Solaris users are
now on x86 than SPARC, so it's getting a lot of attention
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to suggest and took all the code we've
released, built packaged it, put a installer on it, why then we'd end up
with something almost exactly like Solaris Express, so we don't waste our
time duplicating that effort and just tell people who want a binary distro
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chunks that developers can work with - one for ON, one for X,
one for GNOME, and so on.
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Stephen Lau wrote:
.. and the first step in creating a conducive atmosphere for the
community is having an email address that freaking works.
Why even have the much-hated Jive forums if you're going to disown
people who use them instead of the mailing lists?
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. The more
friends the better. GPLv3 will give us that.
Won't it only open us up to projects that use GPLv3 with the same assembly
exception? Pure GPLv3 projects will be able to take our code, but we
won't be able to use theirs unless they relicense with the exception.
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But we're already doing that, so dual-licensing won't open us up any
more than we already are, so where's the benefit?
Stephen Harpster wrote:
For the kernel, true. For userland, no. Don't forget that we're
already taking in GPLv2.
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Stephen Harpster wrote:
The big
Alan DuBoff wrote:
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 06:59 pm, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
I don't expect us to ask Joerg for a contributor agreement to include the
CDDL licensed cdrecord, because it's an external project.
I would actually, and don't think legal will let something like
at the end of March 2006. JDS/GNOME beat us by about 6 months.
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Alan DuBoff wrote:
On Thursday 01 February 2007 03:51 pm, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
How about Look harder - they've all been in OpenSolaris for a long time?
Humor me more. Having the software located on the OpenSolaris site doesn't
mean that it's a part of the project. When you download
.
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of We're going to do what the few
core people want, everyone else can help us or get out of our way
decisions that convinced most everyone else to go away.
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change from CDDL to dual-licensed - you can't have it both ways!
(And even the FSF requires similar agreement to contribute to GNU software,
so I don't see why it should be a major issue.)
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/alanc/entry/wheel_mouse_support_in_solaris
(those actually are two different urls!)
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license to drop the
hated advertising clause and they had to get each copyright owner to agree
to relicense under the same terms.
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than a software community like OpenSolaris.
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Jim Grisanzio wrote:
Also, I just checked the Jive discussion forums. Since opening 20 months
ago, the project's lists/forums have generated 10,114,589 total views,
7,218,833 unique visitors, 21,033 threads, and 81,874 messages.
and how many thousand hoodie spams now? 8-)
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Standard Base Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, which
says that splitting up /usr into subdirectories as we've done
on Solaris is verboten on LSB-compliant systems.
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/knowledgebase/118/ is the problematic
one.
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GPL'ing their code or paying money to
TrollTech.
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off from normal due to the
holiday break.
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growth,
not speed it.
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still being written, before you know what the final
form will be and what it will obligate your users/distributors
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