Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.

2010-11-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/22/2010 7:01 AM, John Martin wrote: On 11/22/10 12:25 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I believe Linux defaults to a higher resolution timer, something you can enable system-wide on Solaris, ... Just as an experiment to verify, in

Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-16 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2010 2:04 AM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/16/10 07:46 PM, Sean M. Brannon wrote: It still does, whether you consider they justify the cost of support only you can say. Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare

2010-11-16 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2010 2:16 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: You concatenate the two parts and mount the resulting .iso file - just fine. They're actually separate ISO files -- not a physical file split. That's not true. Not according to the page you download

[osol-discuss] Any opinions on the Brocade 825 Dual port 8Gb FC HBA?

2010-11-16 Thread Kyle McDonald
Does OpenSolaris/Solaris11 Express have a driver for it already? Anyone used one already? -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?

2010-09-16 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/16/2010 2:03 PM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: Shouldn't the same packages Oracle publishes for Solaris 11 work on OpenIndiana? - would all the dependencies break? OpenIndiana project should maintain it's own package repository. Solaris 11

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/2010 6:11 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: It appears this is the license Solaris 11 Express wil be under and it's solaris 10 new license, an OTN lincese.

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/2010 9:15 AM, Matthias Pfützner wrote: Remember: Even withe the old E10K, Solaris at GA date was capable to use all that hardware from a single kernel... And that's more than 12 years back... ;-) So, scaling on cores, CPUs and thread is

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Kyle McDonald
On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote: It never shipped, (well it did kinda, but not in it's full glory) but the group I was in at Sun had developed HW to connect multiple E6K, and E10K machines (up to 16 if I remember correctly) together, and scale a single kernel instance across all

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/2010 11:42 AM, Octave Orgeron wrote: There was a solution for the Sun Fire 6800-25k servers that allowed you to do this. The name escapes me, but I know Sun had a course for it and sold it to several universities and of course the US

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/2010 10:27 AM, Matthias Pfützner wrote: No, I was not talking about that, I simply meant: The E10K had 64 CPUs and at GA date, Solaris was ready to use 64 CPUs from a single kernel... Unlike the IBM 795, which can currently have MORE

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana - what comes closest to it?

2010-09-02 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/2/2010 10:41 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: illumos is roughly equivalent to ON by itself. An OpenIndiana distro would have to add the other 80% of the OpenSolaris distro that comes from outside ON/illumos - SFW, X, JDS, etc. Hi Alan,

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana - what comes closest to it?

2010-09-02 Thread Kyle McDonald
The people working with Alasdair already made this list, but if you're trying to independently recreate it, you can get a list of included consolidation incorporations by doing: pkg contents -t depend -a type=incorporate -o fmri -r entire You could run a similar command on each of those

Re: [osol-discuss] root roles security holes

2010-07-30 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/30/2010 4:24 PM, Will Fiveash wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:44:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Will Fiveash wrote: I'm in total agreement from a security aspect (recall that OpenSolaris's roots are in the

Re: [osol-discuss] root roles security holes

2010-07-30 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/30/2010 4:54 PM, Will Fiveash wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:33:47PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: On 7/30/2010 4:24 PM, Will Fiveash wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:44:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:26 PM

Re: [osol-discuss] Yet another warning about behaviour on this list

2010-07-15 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/15/2010 11:48 AM, Gary wrote: Please remove me or give me the link so I may do it myself. Though I did post comment on threads about OpenSoalris, at some point it became too much and I asked for the tabloid reading material to cease, but

Re: [osol-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-14 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/2010 7:11 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: The community needs to be able to prevent moves into a direction that is aparently driven by customers but against the will of the majority of the users

Re: [osol-discuss] Move the network related configuration file on Solaris10 but not go into effect

2010-06-30 Thread Kyle McDonald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/30/2010 11:33 AM, Gary wrote: It looks for /etc/hostname.* so /etc/hostname.ce0 or /etc/hostname.ce0_i_should_not_have_named_it_this are the sname thing. Actually it looks for /etc/hostname.*[0-9], so the file should still need to end in a

[osol-discuss] Installed OS now Win7 won't hibernate?

2010-04-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, When I originally installed my laptop last time, I put OS in a partition, and it booted fine with grub. I also loaded Win7 X64 in a second partition, and as MS is known to do it rewrote the MBR and made itself the active partition. I ended up using Win7 mostly for the past few months and

[osol-discuss] Issues with graphical boot in b134?

2010-04-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I recently installed b134 from the live CD on my Dell Lattitude D630 laptop. I can't remember now if the live CD used a graphical boot, but if it did it worked fine. The graphical boot on the installed system however spontaneously reboots my machine every time within 1-2 seconds of

[osol-discuss] kernel panic on build 130?

2010-04-01 Thread Kyle McDonald
So I'm booting SXCE (yes I know but for now I'm stuck) sNVb130 on a machine that has worked fine with Nevada for a long time, and I'm getting this panic: SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_130 64-bit Copyright 1983-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms.

Re: [osol-discuss] kernel panic on build 130?

2010-04-01 Thread Kyle McDonald
On 4/1/2010 2:49 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 04/ 1/10 01:24 PM, Kyle McDonald wrote: So I'm booting SXCE (yes I know but for now I'm stuck) sNVb130 on a machine that has worked fine with Nevada for a long time, and I'm getting this panic: SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_130 64-bit Copyright

Re: [osol-discuss] kernel panic on build 130?

2010-04-01 Thread Kyle McDonald
Reading more, it looks like it might be: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6905550 Which both of those bugs seem to relate to. -Kyle On 4/1/2010 2:49 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 04/ 1/10 01:24 PM, Kyle McDonald wrote: So I'm booting SXCE (yes I know but for now

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris 1002 preview based on b126?

2009-11-09 Thread Kyle McDonald
I checked GenUnix, and don't see anything to download. Any news? -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Driver trouble on Nevada...

2009-10-31 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I have several types of IBM BladeCenter blades (mostly HS20 and LS20.) The BladeCenter manages these blades through a BMC with IPMI, and provides access to the serial console (ttyb) of the blades through the Serial Over LAN (SOL) feature of the BMC. When I user Solaris10 on these

[osol-discuss] Driver trouble on Nevada...

2009-10-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I have several types of IBM BladeCenter blades (mostly HS20 and LS20.) The BladeCenter manages these blades through a BMC with IPMI, and provides access to the serial console (ttyb) of the blades through the Serial Over LAN (SOL) feature of the BMC. When I user Solaris10 on these blades,

Re: [osol-discuss] [driver-discuss] Driver trouble on Nevada...

2009-10-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
this, I wonder if the disconnection is a (delayed) consequence of the bge0 driver loading shortly before the disconnection? -Kyle Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi, I have several types of IBM BladeCenter blades (mostly HS20 and LS20.) The BladeCenter manages these blades through a BMC with IPMI

Re: [osol-discuss] [driver-discuss] Driver trouble on Nevada...

2009-10-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
Stewart Walters wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: The one thing I can think of, is that IBM warns on these blades that the network connection for the BMC is shared (hijacked) from bge0, and that if you PXE boot over bge0, the PXE code will reset the bge interface in a way the will disconnect

[osol-discuss] KSH93 problem?

2009-10-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi! Yesterday while debugging a shell script I think I may have found a bug in ksh93 from sNV b124. The script is basically checking a large list of DNS hostnames for ones that already end in a '.'. I've boiled it down to a simpler test case: while true; do if ! echo gretsch-p21-396 | grep

Re: [osol-discuss] KSH93 problem?

2009-10-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
A new test script: #!/bin/ksh93 COUNT=0 OLDCOUNT=0 while true; do if ! echo gretsch-p21-396 | grep '\.$'; then true else echo false - $? - ${COUNT} - $(( COUNT - OLDCOUNT )) OLDCOUNT=${COUNT} fi COUNT=$(( COUNT + 1 )) done Produces output like: false - 1 - 181500 - 181500 false -

Re: [osol-discuss] KSH93 problem?

2009-10-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
ольга крыжановская wrote: On 10/28/09, Kyle McDonald kmcdon...@egenera.com wrote: [Resend to opensolaris-discuss too.] Hi! Yesterday while debugging a shell script I think I may have found a bug in ksh93 from sNV b124. Please test if the ksh93 download from http

[osol-discuss] What do these messages mean?

2009-09-25 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I'm PXE booting the SXCE b123 ISO, and on boot the kernel shows these messages: SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_123 64-bit Copyright 1983-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Configuring /dev WARNING: emlxs: ddi_modopen drv/fct failed: err 2

[osol-discuss] What does this mean?

2009-09-10 Thread Kyle McDonald
When I loop-back mount an ISO on Solaris NV (b103) I see a file that tells me this: This disc contains a UDF file system and requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 UDF file system specification. Do I need a special mount option? or is this not supported on Solaris? man

[osol-discuss] IBM BladeCenter BMC and Serial over LAN issues?

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, I have an IBM BladeCenter with several HS20 blades. Each of these has a BMC module and one of the ways to use the console of the blade is to redirect the console to the blade's serial port which the BMC module then translates to SOL protocol, which you can access through the network.

[osol-discuss] BIND update?

2008-08-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, Where can I look to be able to tell if NV will be , or has been, updated with a version of BIND that has the latest exploit patches installed? While NV policy is production code all the time, I understand that it's still not totally considered production environment, and therefore

Re: [osol-discuss] BIND update?

2008-08-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Milan Jurik wrote: Hi Kyle, V st, 06. 08. 2008 v 17:50, Kyle McDonald píše: Hi all, Where can I look to be able to tell if NV will be , or has been, updated with a version of BIND that has the latest exploit patches installed? To Sun Alert or blogs.sun.com/security I

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-19 Thread Kyle McDonald
Nicolas Williams wrote: I'm glad I asked :) Me too. :) OK then the prescription is: - setup a Unix nameservice for the Solaris and Linux systems - AD SFU *will* do if you can get Linux's nss_ldap to use it (I'm sure you can). And AD SFU *will* make admistration easier for

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Kyle McDonald
Thanks Nico! I didn't know you were involved with this. More below... Nicolas Williams wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:43:46PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: The part I'm fuzzy on are the nameservies interoperation. I know the CIFS server required a bunch of work to deal with windows

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Kyle McDonald
Nicolas Williams wrote: The solution we use works for Solaris. We made no changes to Linux. You can still interop with Linux and use Windows identities provided that you have a Unix name service with users and groups that are the equivalents of Windows ones. SFU will do as a such a name

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Kyle McDonald
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:39:52PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: Is SFU required to use only NFSv3 between Solaris Machines? No. A Unix name service is strongly implied. That could be SFU. Could be SFU? I thought if you want Windows, Linux and Solaris

[osol-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-17 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, I know Sun has made some big additions to Solaris in the area of Windows-Solaris interoperability. The part I'm most familiar with is the CIFS server and client. The part I'm fuzzy on are the nameservies interoperation. I know the CIFS server required a bunch of work to deal with

[osol-discuss] PANIC! mounting cdrom slice on b78

2008-06-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi All, I have sNV b78 installed (I know I'm working on upgrading to b90.) I was attempting to mount /dev/dsk/c2t0d0s4, which is an ATAPI DVDROM drive containing S10 03/05 CD1, and the machine panic'd when I did 'mount -F hsfs -o ro /dev/dsk/c2t0d0s4' Here's what came up on the console... I

Re: [osol-discuss] PANIC! mounting cdrom slice on b78

2008-06-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
if a bad CD can panic the system.) -Kyle Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi All, I have sNV b78 installed (I know I'm working on upgrading to b90.) I was attempting to mount /dev/dsk/c2t0d0s4, which is an ATAPI DVDROM drive containing S10 03/05 CD1, and the machine panic'd when I did 'mount -F

Re: [osol-discuss] PANIC! mounting cdrom slice on b78

2008-06-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
: kernel 100% done: 260327 pages dumped, compression ratio 5.74, dump succeeded rebooting... -Kyle Kyle McDonald wrote: It happenned again. Only this time it happenned when I started 'bash' (after failing[no such device] to mount s7 of the same CD.) Here's the panic this time: # mount

Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a change list for the upcoming

2008-04-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
andrew wrote: Support for using ZFS as the root filesystem was added in build 88, but there is not yet support for installing Solaris to a ZFS filesystem in the installer. This is expected soon - possibly build 90. If you want ZFS root support, wait for build 88 and use jumpstart to perform

Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a change list for the upcoming

2008-04-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Glenn Lagasse wrote: * Kyle McDonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: andrew wrote: Support for using ZFS as the root filesystem was added in build 88, but there is not yet support for installing Solaris to a ZFS filesystem in the installer. This is expected soon - possibly build 90

[osol-discuss] Is there a change list for the upcoming b87 release anywhere?

2008-04-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, If my counting is right, b87 should be out any time now. What are the changes I can expect to see in it? or where can I read about them myself? Specifically, I'm curious abotu SX installing/booting from ZFS? -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a change list for the upcoming b87 release anywhere?

2008-04-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi all, If my counting is right, b87 should be out any time now. What are the changes I can expect to see in it? or where can I read about them myself? As always, you can see the ON X consolidation changes on our community pages

Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a change list for the upcoming b87 release anywhere?

2008-04-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
Glenn Lagasse wrote: * Kyle McDonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, If my counting is right, b87 should be out any time now. What are the changes I can expect to see in it? or where can I read about them myself? Specifically, I'm curious abotu SX installing/booting from ZFS

[osol-discuss] How can I tell what kind of blank media is in a CD/DVD recorder before I burn it?

2008-04-16 Thread Kyle McDonald
I'm trying to use cdrecord to burn .iso files I create on OpenSolaris. Some need to go on DVD's even when they're not bigger than a CD. Others need to go on CD's no matter what. I've been tasked with writing a front-end script for users to use to burn the ISO's, and I'd like to have the

[osol-discuss] How to get platform name...

2008-03-27 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I've noticed that on the IBM machines I have here, Solaris's FMA framework is able to determine that it is running on an IBM xSeries 346 model 8840. An example of this is: Mar 17 12:48:10 Boot fmd: [ID 441519 daemon.error] SUNW-MSG-ID: ZFS-8000-D3, TYPE: Fault, VER: 1, SEVERITY: Major Mar

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting a Type7 :-)

2008-03-26 Thread Kyle McDonald
andrew wrote: Yes - the type 6 has a beep. I got a brand new one with my old Ultra 10 I bought off eBay. ;-) I'd double check that. Type 6 is USB. An Ultra 10, was Sun's proprietary serial keyboard. Type 5c and Type 6 look almost identical except for color of the plastic (5c -

Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86

2008-03-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
Ian Collins wrote: UNIX admin wrote: Maybe, just maybe, if the clowns at the DLC figure out, that regardless of their attempts to obfuscate the download process, that there are reasonable people who can always outwit them, then they'll give up their demented plan to marginalize SXCE.

Re: [osol-discuss] configuring DNS

2008-03-03 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hugh McIntyre wrote: Prashant Poman wrote: What is DNS search list?How to decide what should be there? To add to the info the previous commenters supplied: You can have a series of domain names to use for lookups. For example, some bits of Sun might use sfbay.sun.com sun.com,

Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-26 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: Oh, I see. They have money, so let's skin them! Nice. And the prices are completely and totally out of touch with reality. No it's more like: They have needs that they feel require a higher end product, and are *willing* to pay for it. - So let's make it for them. It's

Re: [osol-discuss] MultiBoot Anyone Any time Sometime?

2008-02-25 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Uwe Dippel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [i]I thought I read somewhere that the fdisk spec says that there can only be one fdisk partition of a particular type, thus your experiment in creating two Solaris2 fdisk partitions is invalid and that is perhaps why Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] MultiBoot Anyone Any time Sometime?

2008-02-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Joseph Mocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I read somewhere that the fdisk spec says that there can only be one fdisk partition of a particular type, thus your experiment in creating two Solaris2 fdisk partitions is invalid and that is perhaps why Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: So you your university was paying a 100% premium for hardware. I bought two full tricked out U10 directly from the Sun website when they first came out for less than that SARCASM Good to know that Sun treats everyone fairly and equally, isn't it? /SARCASM Back

Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: Probably a guy like me. Those were fine little boxes for what the price back then. In retrospective, considering the U10 hardware, they were outrageously expensive back then. Really? For workstations in general, and SPARC in particular they seemed cheap to me.

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview

2008-02-19 Thread Kyle McDonald
Lurie wrote: Right, as a Solaris replacement Indiana isn't there yet by a long shot. true. but I don't think it's because of the reasons you mentioned (It misses SPARC support, should be there within several months liveupgrade, this is superceded by zfs

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview

2008-02-19 Thread Kyle McDonald
First I'd like to say, that I searched high and low in my inbox for the original message Mario is replying to. I'm not even sure who wrote it. I'd much rather have replie dto it directly. Mario Goebbels wrote: It's true, OpenSolaris (Indiana) will replace Solaris Express Developer Edition

[osol-discuss] Right mailing list for NIS/NameService discussions?

2008-02-08 Thread Kyle McDonald
I see no [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailiing list. (I also didn't see a nameservice-discuss, or ldap-discuss list either) Is there a goo list whee one can find experts or developers for the differen nameservices in solaris? -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-07 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 4:14 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 3:37 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and as far

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 4:44 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to install GNOME libs in order to run a X-less base OpenSolaris installation. Do you believe this is correct? No, but I suspect it's a

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 6:02 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. You mistaken. We didn't change anything related to core libraries and applications. Changes only related to packaging but than again, packaging supposed

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 10:31 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: Yes, I am trying to say that packaging is the issue here, not software. No. Dependencies are the issue. Many dependencies are created when the Dependencies

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) *NOT* POSIX compliant If you have problems with that, you may modify /etc/passwd Since it seems that one group cares more about what they end up with when they login as, or su to root, and the other group seems to

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 10:31 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: Yes, I am trying to say that packaging is the issue here, not software

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 11:59 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) *NOT* POSIX compliant If you have problems with that, you may modify /etc/passwd Since it seems that one

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 1:16 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compared to bash, /bin/sh (the Burne Shell) is bug-free. I don't think you'll find many users that agree. This is because most bash users

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: a) Xscreensaver. The dependency on GTK might be solved similiar to DBUS and HAL with packaging. It's my suggestion though that if the dependencies for XscreenSaver were considered harder, then a better solution might have been found

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 2:26 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 1:16 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compared to bash, /bin/sh (the Burne Shell) is bug-free

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 2:35 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 2:26 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 1:16 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and as far as the enterprise argument, go talk to some of the enterprise sysadmins who post here; they hate that /bin/sh isn't anywhere near portable across systems. It's also not part of any standard, so how

Re: [osol-discuss] /bin/sh was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 3:37 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and as far as the enterprise argument, go talk to some of the enterprise sysadmins who post here; they hate that /bin/sh

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: I still cannot understand why a Sun controlled login (via PAM) depends on Mozilla's /usr/lib/mps/libssl3.so but /usr/sbin/pkgadd depends on /usr/sfw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 This is the problem I'm more concerned about than including the 'Linux Suite' of software.

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution have to do with a ScreenSaver

Re: [osol-discuss] Software Change was Re: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-02-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
Moinak Ghosh wrote: BTW on a side note I just checked the dependencies here. SUNWhal and SUNWrmvolmgr depend on SUNWgnome-base-libs. SUNWgnome-base-libs != GNOME. Then why does it say 'gnome' in the name? How would someone new to Solaris know that it wasn't part of gnome? Why wouldn't

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-30 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: on none of the linux distributions tcsh is the default shell; better advise him something familiar such as bash :) And what then? Breed an army of users using creating bash script monstrosities? How are they ever going to learn something new (and good) if we never

Re: [osol-discuss] Any update on build 79 release

2008-01-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
Derek Cicero wrote: Mike DeMarco wrote: check out this post: [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79 Looks like a major issue is brewing. I have been asking but I have not heard an update on the status. I would have to assume at this point they are going to skip 79 and the

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone know how to purchase a b78 DVD?

2008-01-23 Thread Kyle McDonald
James Carlson wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: My download speed is way to slow, anyone know where I can purchase a DVD? Well we have two problems. Firstly, you can not freely redistribute the snv_78 DVD so therefore I can not just burn the media for you. Secondly ... it isn't for

Re: [osol-discuss] Crontab -- is cron.d not really a .d directory?

2007-12-26 Thread Kyle McDonald
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I bet that since you're coming from a Linux background, you're coming to Solaris with a understanding that what's in Linux is what's been Universally True since the dawn of *NIX. However, this isn't as Linux distros as we know them today have been around for only

Re: [osol-discuss] Crontab -- is cron.d not really a .d directory?

2007-12-26 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that may help is to prepend /usr/ucb to yout $PATH before /usr/bin. This will bring the Berkley UNIX flavor of many commands to the forefront. I think this will help because all the UNIX variants you list above

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-20 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please explain why some people including you try to convert a general problem (that I mentioned some time ago) into a personal problem? I'm not making it personal. I don't see how you read that into what

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-20 Thread Kyle McDonald
James Carlson wrote: Kyle McDonald writes: I don't know the answers to all therse questions. I beleive they are answerable, but I know Sun had a timetable, and probably didn't want to hold up that one ARC case to hashing out this bigger problem. Untrue. We held that exact

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Kyle McDonald
James Carlson wrote: UNIX admin writes: If you want to rename compare you will need to take this up with the ImageMagick folks. That is not the approach that was taken when GNU tar was integrated as `gtar`, was it? No, because 'gtar' is a well-known disambiguator (even

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that when Gnu tar was integrated, Solaris already had a 'tar' in /usr/bin. When 'compare' was integrated (by the first one to request it,) Solaris had nothing in /usr/bin/ named 'compare'. Could you

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PSARC discussions happen ONLY in the context of the product/release under for which the product is ARC'ed. Your compare is NOT part of that product; nor is there even an ARC case proposing it. Your compare does not exist in the context

Re: [osol-discuss] Equivalent of OBP 'probe-scsi-all' from inside

2007-12-12 Thread Kyle McDonald
Chandan Maddanna wrote: Dear Kyle, The number of cable connected has nothing to do with the controllers that is visible. Not really. It's my understanding that each port a cable could connect to is seen as a seperate controller. Also Controllers with no devices attached are not visible

Re: [osol-discuss] Does Solaris has similar Linux command mount -o

2007-12-12 Thread Kyle McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/usr/bin/bash mkdir $2 lofiadm -a $1 /dev/lofi/1 mount -F hsfs -o ro /dev/lofi/1 $2 echo -e \n\t I have mounted $1 under the folder $2\n\n You should realize that lofiadm actually outputs the device used, so the script can be written so as not to require

[osol-discuss] Equivalent of OBP 'probe-scsi-all' from inside solaris on x86?

2007-12-11 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, I have a server with 2 FCAL cards. Each card has 2 ports. There are 4 cables running into these 4 ports. There are 4 other cables that are currently unused. I know there's supposed to be some redundancy in how the SAN is setup,but it's out of my control, and I the person to ask isn't

Re: [osol-discuss] How to enable XDM?

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
Tom Chen wrote: XDM is the facility that allows a remote client to access a full desktop on a Unix or Linux server which is very useful for me to admin remote servers. The protocol it uses is called XDMCP. However, XDM is not enabled by default in OpenSolaris. I know you can disable

[osol-discuss] Live Upgrade question?

2007-12-05 Thread Kyle McDonald
I started with b74, then created an alt BE and lu'd it to b77. b77 had problems with the FC disks attached, and never booted sucessfully. Should I wipe that, clone b74 again and then upgrade to b78 over that? Or can I upgrade the b77 BE directly to b78? (on another note, anyone know for sure

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana review

2007-12-03 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: This is debatable ... Can you provide pros and cons for this from your point of view? For example, I have a package that delivers /.cshrc, /.login and /.logout. If you prefer /bin/sh for root's shell, then why on earth are you installing CSH login files of all

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana review

2007-12-03 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: Funny, one of the first things I always do after installing an instance of SXCE is to edit the passwd file, change the home root directory to /root and the default shell to /bin/bash. I know think I am not alone. That's most likely because you haven't typed in `man

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana review

2007-12-03 Thread Kyle McDonald
UNIX admin wrote: I'm no religious zealot, but I don't get that. You flame bash for not being bourne shell compatible enough, but then go and suggest tcsh? So let me explain: for system and package scripts, /sbin/sh. For interactive use, either tcsh or zsh. Still confused? A true

[osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot?

2007-11-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, I've been trying to figure out what changes i need to make to my begin script, and/or the miniroot, so I booted into it and I've been looking around. While trying to look at files in it, I've seen very strange behavior from 'more'. First I noticed that: # more /etc/passwd

Re: [osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot?

2007-11-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the way it's supposed to work? Is this due to things that are missing from the miniroot? No, more is just broken. I think it expects to be able to read from stderr (for obvious reasons :-) and exits when it cannot. Just curious, can it

Re: [osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot?

2007-11-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed on the POSIX mailing list a while ago. stderr is expected to be readable in the default case where stderr is connected to the controlling tty. Where does it say so in the standard? The miniroot is *NOT* a POSIX compliant

Re: [osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot?

2007-11-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
James Carlson wrote: Jürgen Keil writes: In snv_75a, the miniroot /sbin/sulogin shell script contains this line: exec 0 /dev/console 10 20 The miniroot /sbin/sulogin from snv_75a has SCCS ID @(#)sulogin.sh 1.5. Has that changed for snv_77? It's still the same in the gate.

Re: [osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot?

2007-11-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Juergen Keil wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:27:38 -0500 From: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Jürgen Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED], opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] 'more' broken in b77 miniroot? James Carlson wrote: Jürgen

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